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I'll walk back on what I said on this post:khwarezm posted:Wanna bet that what'll happen is that the US will perform some bombings of airfields and grounded aircraft, Trump will bloviate about being a tough cool dude, the SAA will be barely effected, continue to bloodily grind down the last remaining pockets of resistance, maybe without outright using chemical weapons from now on, and the guys suddenly extremely concerned about the victims of the war in Syria will go back to not giving a poo poo? and call myself an idiot, this is getting real loving bad.
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That could easily be the extent of it, whatever Trump does he's going to go hog wild trying to oversell it
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And we're bombing
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Jagged Jim posted:We're going to war boys! Cool to see this something awful post from 2001.
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Flavahbeast posted:That could easily be the extent of it, whatever Trump does he's going to go hog wild trying to oversell it I dunno, he could try and use this to distract from all of the poo poo happening at home, he probably will kill a lot more people than the chemical attack at this point.
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Were can I find someone actually reporting on this, Europe is busy sleeping.
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Going to be strikes on airfields that have already had their Russian overseers moved away.
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He called out Russia and Iran as backers of the regime, but he made it sound like the target list is limited to chemical weapons infrastructure (though he kind of hinted it might not be one and done), and still indicated he'd like to withdraw from the country. The Pentagon's going to have a briefing at 10, so it'll be interesting to see if they'll say the strikes are completed at that point or if this is going to be an ongoing thing. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Apr 14, 2018 |
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Explosions being reported in Damascus, so they're well underway.
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MiddleOne posted:Were can I find someone actually reporting on this, Europe is busy sleeping. I’m sure as poo poo not!
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Sinteres posted:He called out Russia and Iran as backers of the regime, but he made it sound like the target list is limited to chemical weapons infrastructure (though he kind of hinted it might not be one and done), and still indicated he'd like to withdraw from the country. he barely called out russia. he basically did "i am disappointed in you but daddy loves you" with them.
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AceOfFlames posted:I’m sure as poo poo not! Me neither, that's my problem! 
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Time to see if my  bet on Russia getting warned beforehand stands!
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So wait are they really firing on Damascus itself? 
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pro starcraft loser posted:Going to be strikes on airfields that have already had their Russian overseers moved away. Shear Modulus posted:https://twitter.com/jcartillier/status/984961393018441728?s=21 Well...gently caress.
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We're using drones in formation to do most of the bombing. I'm pretty sure this is the first time this has ever happened. No human pilots are in danger.
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Grapplejack posted:We're using drones in formation to do most of the bombing. I'm pretty sure this is the first time this has ever happened. No human pilots are in danger. Oh word?
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Grapplejack posted:We're using drones in formation to do most of the bombing. I'm pretty sure this is the first time this has ever happened. No human pilots are in danger. I thought it was all Tomahawks being fired from the Mediterranean?
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Grouchio posted:Wait so Russia's declaring war? Firing at the missiles, not at us.
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Grouchio posted:Wait so Russia's declaring war? i dont think shooting down missiles with your own missiles is an act of war
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MiddleOne posted:I thought it was all Tomahawks being fired from the Mediterranean? I'm pretty sure there are drones involved also but the twitter I got it from may be making poo poo up whole-cloth https://twitter.com/arturaskerelis/status/984967157934116865
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Grouchio posted:Wait so Russia's declaring war? Russia said they'd only target missile launchers (ships) if the Russian forces were targeted by the strikes.
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Sinteres posted:Guess we'll find out if the S-400 is worth a poo poo at missile defense. My guess is no. That's not a knock on the Russians--we suck at it too. Cruise missile defense is not the same thing as ballistic missile defense. Modern cruise missiles at essentially just unmanned aircraft that fly at extremely low altitudes. It's especially easy with tomahawks since they fly slower than the speed of sound. The main difficulty is with target acquisition because of their low altitude and ability to hide behind terrain features.
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Sinteres posted:Firing at the missiles, not at us.
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Dandywalken posted:Oh word? To specify, no human pilots in us/uk/fr force Trabisnikof posted:I wouldn’t use public flight trackers for military operations.
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However this ends up, Assad's a loving moron for pushing the line until he got this response, though I still think Trump very possibly was the catalyst when he abruptly started talking about withdrawal.Grapplejack posted:To specify, no human pilots in us/uk/fr force What about the reports of RAF planes taking off from Cyprus?
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Grapplejack posted:I'm pretty sure there are drones involved also but the twitter I got it from may be making poo poo up whole-cloth why not just blow up the palace and kill assad/family/officers. that would at least be more effective.
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How long will it take to capture Damascus? 2 days Will Assad be killed? Yes Total Syrian civillian casualties: 500 dead Total military casualties Syria: 3000 dead Total military casualties U.S.: 15 dead Will the SAA regulars hold the lines? No Will the Republican Guard fight to the end? No Will chem/bio weapons be used on invading troops?: Yes Will Assad launch attacks on the Kurds? Yes Will Assad launch attacks on Israel? No -If yes; will Isreal retaliate harshly? Yes Will Assad sacrifice Damascus (gas/nuke it)? No Will the Kurds make a grab for independence? Yes Will Turkey do anything silly like try for land? Yes Will Assad burn the oil fields? Yes How long will the US be occupying Syria? ~15 years Will the Syria war catalyze increased terrorism in America?No In the long run, will this war be good or bad for the world? Good We have to look at what those civilian casualties are- just because they're civilian doesn't make them innocent! Lets take a look at a few possibilities: 1) A civilian walking down the street to market gets killed by a cruise missile fired at the market. 2) A civilian asleep in their house is killed when their house is targetting by a smart bomb and blown up. OK, these two are regrettable innocents being killed- but since the US doesn't make a habit of targetting markets or houses, they're very small in number! 3) A civilian working at a chemical weapon factory gets killed when the chemical weapon plant is bombed. 4) A civilian security guard at a weapons depot is killed when the weapons explode. 5) A civilian contractor repairing a tank is killed by a MOAB dropped on the unit. 6) A civilian engineer is killed when the military command center he works at is destroyed. 7) A civilian delivering snackiecakes to the baghdad bunker vending machines eats a 5,000lb bunker buster. etc, etc. The list goes on. My point is that there are a lot of civilians directly supporting the military that aren't exactly "innocent" and would be mire rightly counted among the military casualties than civilian. I'm a civilian and work for the US military, but I acknowledge I'm also a valid military target because of what I do. And I think the vast majority of civilian casualties in this campaign will not be innocent.
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Sinteres posted:However this ends up, Assad's a loving moron for pushing the line until he got this response, though I still think Trump very possibly was the catalyst when he abruptly started talking about withdrawal. probably. trump is looking for a quick "wag the dog" so he can get a boost from being a corrupt monster at home. outside the chudsphere. its not working so far.
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