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Grand Fromage posted:They never specify how old she is, or anything about Cardassian aging. The first Ziyal actress just looked kinda young. The cardies that interrogated picard were around for the beginning of the military government, so they must live for hundreds of years
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:Well, I'm not going to argue, as there's no accounting for taste. But, wow. I get preferring one over the other between B5 and DS9, and even if you pick DS9 for whatever reason, that can be legit. But this seems like you've got a chip on your shoulder about something, or went in expecting and wanting to hate it. I’m not going to watch 110 episodes of anything I expect to hate. I was very much looking forward to watching B5 - obviously it gets a lot of plaudits on here and elsewhere, and I have fond memories from catching the odd episode when I was a kid. I had known for years (decades?) that this had an ongoing plot that slowly led up to something called the “shadow war”, and I was excited to finally see that. But when the shadow war finally arrived it was a total damp squib. The sets, effects and even the acting I can chalk up to budgetary problems and look past. But the characterisation and writing is nowhere near up to snuff, especially compared to the similar DS9.
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:I don't think it's at all lacking in the dialogue and characters, although that is still obviously a matter of taste. I didn't mean to cast aspersions and assume someone's motive, so I apologize for that, but I think when you're watching a lower-budget show from 25 years ago you really have to meet it on its own terms as a product of its time, and not judge it by the standards of everything that's come since. I think that's an OK view if you are watching something for historical or artistic reasons, but in my opinion, true classic entertainment can withstand the test of time in spite of or even because of its' age.
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Windows 98 posted:What are some other good Trek twitter accounts? I don't know that it's good (certainly it's not Riker Googling), but https://twitter.com/OffToRomulus does some weird series with a crapload of other peripheral Trek accounts. e.g. (click through for full effect) https://twitter.com/OneEyed_Giant/status/982873943982952448
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I’m still not entirely sure why exactly. https://twitter.com/io9/status/985583804772384769
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dont even fink about it posted:Unless Babylon 5 attempts to trick you into embracing fascism and rejecting the premise of a better future, while at the same time managing to have only a fraction of the political bravery of its predecessors--imperfect as they are--it's not worse than DS9. More seriously, did you watch to the ending of "Paradise Lost"? If you aren't finishing the episode you might as well be marching through Poland at the head of a column of tanks.
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Nessus posted:This post is intrinsically fascist, and further, part of a fascist ideological process. This is a crypto fascist post.
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Arglebargle III posted:This is a crypto fascist post.
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Arglebargle III posted:This is a crypto fascist post. The good thing about cryptofascism is that it's so decentralized.
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Eastern Bloc-chain
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The_Doctor posted:I’m still not entirely sure why exactly. That smells like bullshit to me.
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MillennialVulcan posted:That smells like bullshit to me. I don't know; it seems plausible to me. Remember, Intellectual Property (IP) is a many-splendored thing. It's possible that the ownership of what the Constitution-class Enterprise is supposed to look like belongs to whoever used it last--I'm thinking about the newer Star Trek films--so, things have to change a bit.
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LRADIKAL posted:I think that's an OK view if you are watching something for historical or artistic reasons, but in my opinion, true classic entertainment can withstand the test of time in spite of or even because of its' age. Maybe I'm weird but I'm not even sure I draw that kind of distinction when I watch something. I usually enjoy things on all sorts of levels.
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tarlibone posted:I don't know; it seems plausible to me. Remember, Intellectual Property (IP) is a many-splendored thing. It's possible that the ownership of what the Constitution-class Enterprise is supposed to look like belongs to whoever used it last--I'm thinking about the newer Star Trek films--so, things have to change a bit. Is this like how Kira Nerys isn’t Ensign Ro (or Tom Paris isn’t the Red Squad goober from TNG) because callback money?
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I'm glad Kira isn't Ro I couldn't possibly give less of a poo poo about Thomas Eugene Paris
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I don't know if brexit means anything to you guys, but Jean-luc Picard is trying to stop it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43774200
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:Maybe I'm weird but I'm not even sure I draw that kind of distinction when I watch something. I usually enjoy things on all sorts of levels. Besides, Lightwave has its charms. B5 CGI is the latter-day equivalent of Republic serial ships on strings shooting fireworks -- it's fun even though, and largely because, it's hopelessly outdated.
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Trickjaw posted:I don't know if brexit means anything to you guys, but Jean-luc Picard is trying to stop it. He’s finally resumed aging in these last few years and I don’t like it
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Wise Fwom Yo Gwave posted:Is this like how Kira Nerys isn’t Ensign Ro (or Tom Paris isn’t the Red Squad goober from TNG) because callback money? That is a separate can of worms that is, itself, another many-splendored thing. To get an idea of how nuts that can be, look into the last episodes of the show Charmed. The white lighter character had left the show, and there was this whole big thing about how much money it would take in order to 1) have him show up in the finale, 2) use clips of him with his voice in the finale, 3) use clips without voice, 4) show a picture of his character, and 5) ignore him completely. But the IP issue... you'd think it'd be simple: X owns Star Trek, so if they're making ST:D under the blessing of X, then obviously ST:D can have a cameo of the Constitution-class Enterprise. The problem is, it's much more fragmented than that. X may own Star Trek's... uh, let's say, characters. Y owns the ship design for that particular incarnation of the Enterprise (and every model that purports to depict that version of the ship). Z owns certain story lines. And it goes on and on like that. So, while ST:D may be an official Star Trek product, they may not have permission to use any of the cannon characters related to the Enterprise. And if they do, they might not have the rights to use an existing model of the Constitution-class Enterprise itself. And even if they have all of that, they may not be able to allow one of the characters onboard the Enterprise to say that they're about to go on a "5-year mission" or that they're going to "boldly go where no man has gone before." Not even if they explain that by man, they mean "mankind," not humans who identify as male.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:He’s finally resumed aging in these last few years and I don’t like it So would you if you are getting closer to 80, and had a hot @40 year old wife. The man can't be getting any sleep.
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So if the Paramount movies don't have the rights to the TOS Enterprise, and the CBS tv series doesn't, who does?
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Astroman posted:So if the Paramount movies don't have the rights to the TOS Enterprise, and the CBS tv series doesn't, who does? Axanar?
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Astroman posted:So if the Paramount movies don't have the rights to the TOS Enterprise, and the CBS tv series doesn't, who does? star trek onlien
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Should I watch the remastered version of TOS with high def and new CG space shots or the original
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Should I watch the remastered version of TOS with high def and new CG space shots or the original Don’t stress over it since each looks like (a different kind of) rear end half the time.
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Astroman posted:So if the Paramount movies don't have the rights to the TOS Enterprise, and the CBS tv series doesn't, who does? Amarillo Design Bureau. Jeb! Repetition posted:Should I watch the remastered version of TOS with high def and new CG space shots or the original Do you like cheesy newer CGI or cheesy old model shots?
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Jeb! Repetition posted:This really makes me want to watch the original effects + high def version even though it'll be hard to find What the gently caress "Haha, computers don't look like that anymore! Now they look like... A dual cassette player?"
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Should I watch the remastered version of TOS with high def and new CG space shots or the original Speaking as someone who grew up watching TOS re-runs after school, the high def remastered version has a definite charm equal to the original, and you'd honestly be fine watching either one. A real IDIC situation, there.
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Kibayasu posted:TNG Season 8 is good but stopped tweeting a long time ago. Good to browse the history at least.
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After The War posted:I don't... hate the new effects, but I do find it a little jarring, jumping between the shlocky interior sets and clean CGI exterior shots. Give it time. The cg hasn’t aged well so in a few years it’ll all even out.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Give it time. The cg hasn’t aged well so in a few years it’ll all even out. Yeah some of the CG in the re-mastered stuff has aged pretty well but some of it is pretty hideous. I still don't much care for the Enterprise skating around firing at the planet killer either.
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Here's a question for the thread: What exactly is Martia's role in the Star Trek VI conspiracy? I've been watching this movie since I was a kid, but it never occurred to me to wonder what she's supposed to be doing. I know they want to kill Kirk and Bones and use "trying to escape" as an excuse. What I don't understand is why. Wouldn't it have been better to just let those two rot in prison while the conspiracy to disrupt Federation-Klingon relations continued? At that point, they didn't know much, other than the fact that they were being framed.
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Brawnfire posted:What the gently caress At least you don't see any paper-and-oil capacitors anymore?
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Should I watch the remastered version of TOS with high def and new CG space shots or the original You should be watching DS9  Really, either is fine as has been stated. I won't fault you for watching TOS and there are several episodes directly referenced in DS9 that'd be way better if you knew TOS anyway
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Here's a question for the thread: What exactly is Martia's role in the Star Trek VI conspiracy? I've been watching this movie since I was a kid, but it never occurred to me to wonder what she's supposed to be doing. In their view, the two of them are a threat as long as they are still living
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