Warhammer 40,000: 8th Time's the Charm

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TheChirurgeon: Aug 7, 2002; Remember how good you are; Taco Defender

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IRONIC IN THIS THREAD ANYMORE

e: except for anyone saying nice things about templates, I mean. Obviously that's ironic

# ? Apr 17, 2018 14:33

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# ? May 16, 2024 07:27

Schadenboner: Aug 15, 2011; by Shine

TheChirurgeon posted:

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IRONIC IN THIS THREAD ANYMORE

# ? Apr 17, 2018 14:33

Liquid Communism: Mar 9, 2004

mango sentinel posted:

AFAIK they fill a similar role to Scouts if you're doing a Primaris only marine army.

Yeah, minus the sniper rifles.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 14:40

ijyt: Apr 10, 2012

Two Beans posted:

Its a parody account.

??? It says games workshop

# ? Apr 17, 2018 14:44

MasterSlowPoke: Oct 9, 2005; Our courage will pull us through

If you look closely, the W in workshop is actually an upside down M.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 14:46

Safety Factor: Oct 31, 2009; Grimey Drawer

MasterSlowPoke posted:

If you look closely, the W in workshop is actually an upside down M.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 14:48

Neurolimal: Nov 3, 2012

*gently leans close to the emperor's ear* werked again

# ? Apr 17, 2018 14:49

Beer4TheBeerGod: Aug 23, 2004; Exciting Lemon

mango sentinel posted:

AFAIK they fill a similar role to Scouts if you're doing a Primaris only marine army.

I really wish they were a Troops choice. That would really open up some options for Primaris-only forces, since right now they're competing with things like Aggressors and Ancients for the coveted Elite slots.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 14:53

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ijyt posted:

??? It says games workshop

It's actually Games Twerkshop

# ? Apr 17, 2018 15:02

panascope: Mar 26, 2005

Corrode posted:

It's actually Games Twerkshop

now we�re talkin

# ? Apr 17, 2018 15:11

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panascope posted:

now we�re talkin

Av/post perfection

# ? Apr 17, 2018 15:13

Neurolimal: Nov 3, 2012

Before GW had Finecast, they had Fondantcast

# ? Apr 17, 2018 15:14

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Neurolimal posted:

Before GW had Finecast, they had Fondantcast

The best miniatures are cast in hard rock candy.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 15:21

TheBigAristotle: Feb 8, 2007; I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.; Grimey Drawer

I'm looking for an option that's cheaper than �16 on forgeworld for an Imperial Fists transfer sheet.

Anyone have tips?

# ? Apr 17, 2018 15:24

Schadenboner: Aug 15, 2011; by Shine

TheBigAristotle posted:

Anyone have tips?

# ? Apr 17, 2018 15:25

panascope: Mar 26, 2005

TheBigAristotle posted:

I'm looking for an option that's cheaper than �16 on forgeworld for an Imperial Fists transfer sheet.

Anyone have tips?

How many transfers do you need?

# ? Apr 17, 2018 15:35

TheBigAristotle: Feb 8, 2007; I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.; Grimey Drawer

On just Marine models alone probably like 40-50, vehicles and dreadnought another 5-10 I guess.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 15:37

Safety Factor: Oct 31, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Your best bet probably is that FW transfer sheet. I know it's pricy, but those things are big (full A4 sheet) and come with tons of good poo poo on them.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 15:41

Artum: Feb 13, 2012; DUN da dun dun da DUUUN; Soiled Meat

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I really wish they were a Troops choice. That would really open up some options for Primaris-only forces, since right now they're competing with things like Aggressors and Ancients for the coveted Elite slots.

I wouldn't say they're competing for anything when a lists generally going to have like 10 elite slots.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 15:51

FromTheShire: Feb 19, 2005; Panzers on Russian soil, Thunder in the east.
One million men at war,
The Soviet wrath unleashed

Am I dumb or are Blood Angels actually the least hurt by the deep strike changes? You have the option to use Upon Wings of Fire for any jump pack unit once your turn has started, or you can use Forlorn Fury before the first battle round with multiple units of Death Company if you really really need to be in their face turn one. It's not perfect if you're bringing multiple characters with them, but as other people have said, you're generally better dropping a big unit + buff characters on turn 2 after you've had time to shoot their screens up anyways.

I'm not a big fan personally but that's more to do with playing on a crappy table with almost no terrain, thus needing to get that hammer punch off in order to avoid being shredded by AdMech or Tau shooting. If we played with better terrain like you would expect from a tournament, I don't see why people think they're garbage now beyond being both idiots and unfamiliar with their own codex.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 16:00

Pendent: Nov 16, 2011; The bonds of blood transcend all others.
But no blood runs stronger than that of Sanguinius; Grimey Drawer

FromTheShire posted:

Am I dumb or are Blood Angels actually the least hurt by the deep strike changes? You have the option to use Upon Wings of Fire for any jump pack unit once your turn has started, or you can use Forlorn Fury before the first battle round with multiple units of Death Company if you really really need to be in their face turn one. It's not perfect if you're bringing multiple characters with them, but as other people have said, you're generally better dropping a big unit + buff characters on turn 2 after you've had time to shoot their screens up anyways.

I'm not a big fan personally but that's more to do with playing on a crappy table with almost no terrain, thus needing to get that hammer punch off in order to avoid being shredded by AdMech or Tau shooting. If we played with better terrain like you would expect from a tournament, I don't see why people think they're garbage now beyond being both idiots and unfamiliar with their own codex.

You forgot the part where parts of this community has a tendency to go into hysterics over the slightest changes. I honesty can't stand to read Bolter and Chainsword at the moment since I woke up to about 4 solid pages of people melting down and attacking the few voices that were even slightly more positive.

The best part is that I can guarantee almost nobody has had a chance to actually try the new rules yet.

The consensus over there has generally been that UWOF doesn't let you drop into your opponent's deployment zone, for the record. That's certainly been my read as well, but I also don't think I'd be using it since you're just sending up a single unsupported/unbuffed squad. Inceptors or Storm Bolter Company Vets are probably the best choices if it does end up working to that you can open up a hole for the next turn.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 16:07

Schadenboner: Aug 15, 2011; by Shine

FromTheShire posted:

Am I dumb or are Blood Angels actually the least hurt by the deep strike changes? You have the option to use Upon Wings of Fire for any jump pack unit once your turn has started, or you can use Forlorn Fury before the first battle round with multiple units of Death Company if you really really need to be in their face turn one. It's not perfect if you're bringing multiple characters with them, but as other people have said, you're generally better dropping a big unit + buff characters on turn 2 after you've had time to shoot their screens up anyways.

I'm not a big fan personally but that's more to do with playing on a crappy table with almost no terrain, thus needing to get that hammer punch off in order to avoid being shredded by AdMech or Tau shooting. If we played with better terrain like you would expect from a tournament, I don't see why people think they're garbage now beyond being both idiots and unfamiliar with their own codex.

Just say "no" to terrain-levels below Alpha, imo.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 16:09

FromTheShire: Feb 19, 2005; Panzers on Russian soil, Thunder in the east.
One million men at war,
The Soviet wrath unleashed

Pendent posted:

You forgot the part where parts of this community has a tendency to go into hysterics over the slightest changes. I honesty can't stand to read Bolter and Chainsword at the moment since I woke up to about 4 solid pages of people melting down and attacking the few voices that were even slightly more positive.

The best part is that I can guarantee almost nobody has had a chance to actually try the new rules yet.

The consensus over there has generally been that UWOF doesn't let you drop into your opponent's deployment zone, for the record. That's certainly been my read as well, but I also don't think I'd be using it since you're just sending up a single unsupported/unbuffed squad. Inceptors or Storm Bolter Company Vets are probably the best choices if it does end up working to that you can open up a hole for the next turn.

Yeah I was pretty sure that was the case, but I figured I'd make sure I wasn't misunderstanding something. My reading of UWOF is different but I agree it's not something that is generally worth doing. I might well use it in conjunction with FF for the sole purpose of getting Astorath or Lemartes in range of a big DC unit or two, but I'm fully aware that's me doing something fluffy because I want to, not a competitive strategy.

Schadenboner posted:

Just say "no" to terrain-levels below Alpha, imo.

You're not wrong, my playgroup is currently 4-5 people beerhammering once a month or so on temporary tables so we haven't had a big push to get terrain ready yet. I'm currently trying to change that, we just got clearance to do a permanent setup in my buddy's basement and I picked up a FAT Mat since they're on sale. Now I just need to figure out if I can swing a 3D printer right now since I backed a couple terrain kickstarters, or whether we should just do some foam buildings etc for now

# ? Apr 17, 2018 16:30

Chainclaw: Feb 14, 2009

Are there any good paint planning tools, or good source images for unpainted miniatures? I just picked up both Start Collecting Drukhari sets, and am trying to plan out my colors before I start painting. So far I haven't found anything more useful than Photoshop or Paint.net and just coloring stuff in those tools.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 17:08

Kabuki Shipoopi: Jun 22, 2007; If I fall, you don't get the head, right? If you lose the head, you're fucked!

Naramyth posted:

I'm pretty annoyed at the oblit nerf. It might be custode time.

I mean I have a box of the idiots anyway.

What is the nerf? I can't seem to find anything other than the daemon keyword change.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 17:09

Naramyth: Jan 22, 2009; Australia cares about cunts. Including this one.

Kabuki Shipoopi posted:

What is the nerf? I can't seem to find anything other than the daemon keyword change.

If you cant derp strike out of your zone turn one they cant really threaten your opponents big things.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 17:13

bird food bathtub: Aug 9, 2003; College Slice

Naramyth posted:

If you cant derp strike out of your zone turn one they cant really threaten your opponents big things.

I am now going to use the phrase 'derp strike'.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 18:13

Felime: Jul 10, 2009

Schadenboner posted:

Just say "no" to terrain-levels below Alpha, imo.

Even that seems a little sparse for my tastes.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 18:17

Booley: Apr 25, 2010; I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE; Grimey Drawer

Felime posted:

Even that seems a little sparse for my tastes.

It's very sparse, but it's about the bare minimum for the game to work. I'd look towards having that much terrain per 2x4 section, at a low end.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 18:23

Schadenboner: Aug 15, 2011; by Shine

Felime posted:

Even that seems a little sparse for my tastes.

Well, there's Gamma:

And Omega:

And this is from Cites of Death so it also lacks hills/forests.

That and Codex Cityfight are really good resources.

:shrug:

E: Im the poor alignment

# ? Apr 17, 2018 18:27

Broken Record Talk: Jul 28, 2009; A three-hundred thousand degree baptism by nuclear fire;
we had it coming.

Omega-level or GTFO!

# ? Apr 17, 2018 18:29

goodness: Jan 3, 2012; When the light turns green, you go. When the light turns red, you stop. But what do you do when the light turns blue with orange and lavender spots?

guess which army he is selling

# ? Apr 17, 2018 18:43

Pendent: Nov 16, 2011; The bonds of blood transcend all others.
But no blood runs stronger than that of Sanguinius; Grimey Drawer

goodness posted:

guess which army he is selling

Codex: Shield Captain on Jetbikes

# ? Apr 17, 2018 18:45

Neurolimal: Nov 3, 2012

Out of curiosity, are there any big unit leader roles in chaos this Khornish lass could fill?

Considering swapping my third model choice to her from this tzeentchish gal:

Who would be used as a sorceror (preferably on a disc, to look extra cool), because you dont need geneseed to shoot mind bullets. Either one wont see much use for a long while, since Chaos isn't the army I'm working towards.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 18:49

Mef989: Feb 6, 2007

goodness posted:

guess which army he is selling

The number of Deathguard armies right now in /r/miniswap is amazing, and I love the amount of salt they put into their explanation for selling / leave in the comments :allears:

# ? Apr 17, 2018 18:50

Schadenboner: Aug 15, 2011; by Shine

Eleven Floaty Bikes and a Floaty Tank

code:

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Adeptus Custodes) [75 PL, 1494pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +
Use Beta Rules

+ HQ +
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 179pts]: Auric Aquilis, Misericordia, Salvo Launcher, Superior Creation, Warlord

+ Fast Attack +
Caladius Grav-tank (Beta) [16 PL, 315pts]: Twin Illiastus Accelerator Cannon, Twin Lastrum Bolt Cannon

Vertus Praetors [20 PL, 376pts]
4x Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia

Vertus Praetors [15 PL, 312pts]
2x Vertus Praetor: Misericordia, Salvo Launcher
Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia

Vertus Praetors [15 PL, 312pts]
2x Vertus Praetor: Misericordia, Salvo Launcher
Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia

++ Total: [75 PL, 1494pts] ++

It doesn�t seem too abusive (by the standards of Custards).

Three bikes take each flank and the tank and the 4 bikes go up the middle.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 18:52

dexefiend: Apr 25, 2003; THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!

Without free pox walkers, the army is basically unplayable.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 18:54

goodness: Jan 3, 2012; When the light turns green, you go. When the light turns red, you stop. But what do you do when the light turns blue with orange and lavender spots?

Mef989 posted:

The number of Deathguard armies right now in /r/miniswap is amazing, and I love the amount of salt they put into their explanation for selling / leave in the comments

The salt is real

I'm hoping to pick up some poxwalkers and vehicles for cheap.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 19:09

Fake James: Aug 18, 2005; Y'all got any more of that plastic?; Buglord

I don't think I've ever successfully brought back more than 2 or 3 poxwalkers into a squad in any games I've played before and have still won so lol

# ? Apr 17, 2018 19:12

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# ? May 16, 2024 07:27

Mef989: Feb 6, 2007

goodness posted:

The salt is real

I'm hoping to pick up some poxwalkers and vehicles for cheap.

I just chalk this up to being what happens when you buy into an army based on abusing an interaction rather than rule of cool. I prefer to play what I enjoy and get more from learning a few armies well rather than switching to the new flavor of the month.

# ? Apr 17, 2018 19:18

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