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Ghost Leviathan posted:Snyder Batman has a notable scene where he's looking at thugs guarding a warehouse (original, I know) through what looks like a sniper scope... and turns out to be just a telescope, with an implication that if he wanted to actively kill people, he could have taken out half the guards right there. Kind of the odd medium in that Batman still doesn't actively try to kill people (if he's using a handgun, generally something weird is going on) but isn't going to let it get to him if his reckless driving and internal injuries end up getting people killed. MrJacobs posted:No, that was a rifle, not a telescope that he used to shoot the tracking device onto the truck with. This an homage to The Dark Knight Returns (like the "I believe it" bit at the warehouse scene's end with flame thrower guy) where Batman is setting up a similar situation to deal with Two Face, but then it turns out the gun is there to launch a rope/hook so he can rappel and break in to beat folks up. It doesn't sound similar now that I'm writing it here but when watching the movie the way it was shot immediately evoked that for me since the movie takes so much other stuff from that comic too. IIRC Nolan has a similar fake out in Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises since both flicks and BvS used a lot from it. Lobok posted:"Hm, how the mighty have fallen." I'm glad you reached such great heights with this post. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Apr 16, 2018 |
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Neo Rasa posted:This an homage to The Dark Knight Returns (like the "I believe it" bit at the warehouse scene's end with flame thrower guy) where Batman is setting up a similar situation to deal with Two Face, but then it turns out the gun is there to launch a rope/hook so he can rappel and break in to beat folks up. It doesn't sound similar now that I'm writing it here but when watching the movie the way it was shot immediately evoked that for me since the movie takes so much other stuff from that comic too. IIRC Nolan has a similar fake out in Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises since both flicks and BvS used a lot from it. Dark Knight Rises lifted bits and pieces of it, and fit them into a different story about the end of Batman, which is why it worked. Beevis lifted it wholesale, and tried to tweak it into a Justice League origin story, which is why it didn't work.
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NTRabbit posted:Beevis lifted it wholesale, and tried to tweak it into a Justice League origin story, which is why it didn't work.
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They tried to tweak the movie as a whole into the Justice league origin, but not really the dark Knight returns portions in particular.
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:They tried to tweak the movie as a whole into the Justice league origin, but not really the dark Knight returns portions in particular. The movie was, at least what we got if not what it was supposed to be from day 1, a justice league origin film, and the story for it was lifted in large parts from DKR, a post-justice league end of Batman story, with tweaks to wedge it in - now instead of 80s, young Superman instead of old Superman, etc. and it really didn't work. Nolan lifted some scenes and some nods, and they worked much better, because the source and the destination were both end of Batman stories. It made sense. It didn't make sense for Beevis, which is probably at least partly why the story ultimately didn't make any sense either. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Apr 16, 2018 |
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NTRabbit posted:The movie was, at least what we got if not what it was supposed to be from day 1, a justice league origin film, and the story for it was lifted in large parts from DKR, a post-justice league end of Batman story, with tweaks to wedge it in - now instead of 80s, young Superman instead of old Superman, etc. and it really didn't work. Nolan lifted some scenes and some nods, and they worked much better, because the source and the destination were both end of Batman stories. It made sense. It didn't make sense for Beevis, which is probably at least partly why the story ultimately didn't make any sense either. I mean, you're the guy who couldn't figure out why Batman wears a power suit, so I don't think the story was the problem.
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NTRabbit posted:The movie was, at least what we got if not what it was supposed to be from day 1, a justice league origin film, and the story for it was lifted in large parts from DKR, a post-justice league end of Batman story, with tweaks to wedge it in - now instead of 80s, young Superman instead of old Superman, etc. and it really didn't work. Nolan lifted some scenes and some nods, and they worked much better, because the source and the destination were both end of Batman stories. It made sense. It didn't make sense for Beevis, which is probably at least partly why the story ultimately didn't make any sense either. I'm increasingly unsure if you've actually seen the movie
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It actually did work.
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It’s unfortunate that JL was bungled so badly, because Snyder’s original pitch of “Seven Samurai but the whole world is the village” is a pretty novel way to look at the team’s formation. There’s that long-running joke of “why do you need a Justice League when you have Superman,” and the movie actually uses that conundrum as a springboard, with his absence being the inciting reason they come together at all. It’s a really cool set up for a desperate need to bring together a group of people who may not even necessarily like each other, but because the character work is so flat the premise isn’t really taken advantage of.
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Fart City posted:It’s unfortunate that JL was bungled so badly, because Snyder’s original pitch of “Seven Samurai but the whole world is the village” is a pretty novel way to look at the team’s formation. There’s that long-running joke of “why do you need a Justice League when you have Superman,” and the movie actually uses that conundrum as a springboard, with his absence being the inciting reason they come together at all. It’s a really cool set up for a desperate need to bring together a group of people who may not even necessarily like each other, but because the character work is so flat the premise isn’t really taken advantage of. Yeah, it's a solid motivation, though it doesn't carry through to the end of the movie where they actually set up the Justice League at the old Wayne Manor, since by then Superman is back and capable of taking care of things on his own. Unless the implication is that the Justice League is basically AAA for when Superman has a dead battery.
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Lobok posted:"Hm, how the mighty have fallen." "i think harvey faced his own mortality" "he was just a bit burned out" "he certainly left a....dent" *batman tapdances off -screen*
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TetsuoTW posted:I'm increasingly unsure if you've actually seen the movie
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Martman posted:but why did he wear armor tho No one cared who he was until he put on the hockey pads.
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Fart City posted:It’s unfortunate that JL was bungled so badly, because Snyder’s original pitch of “Seven Samurai but the whole world is the village” is a pretty novel way to look at the team’s formation. There’s that long-running joke of “why do you need a Justice League when you have Superman,” and the movie actually uses that conundrum as a springboard, with his absence being the inciting reason they come together at all. It’s a really cool set up for a desperate need to bring together a group of people who may not even necessarily like each other, but because the character work is so flat the premise isn’t really taken advantage of. That would mean the last "samurai" to join the group in this case would be Superman even though he had the most humble upbringing and his own plight is what caused everyone else to reevaluate themselves and come together. Let's compare to the last person to officially join the seven samurai, Mifune's Kikuchiyo: Seven Samurai posted:KIKUCHIYO (CONT’D)
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Holy moley. This is really depressing and crazy. I've had to deal with elder abuse before and this is all way too familiar. It's really really sad and hard to get anything done before it's too late. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/stan-lee-needs-a-hero-elder-abuse-claims-a-battle-aging-marvel-creator-1101229 quote:Stan Lee Needs a Hero: Elder Abuse Claims and a Battle Over the Aging Marvel Creator quote:At the center of Lee’s problems is his 67-year-old daughter J.J. Lee, who, as is alleged in an extensive and damning Hollywood Reporter investigation into the financial and personal drama that’s surrounded Lee in recent months, freely spends her father’s money, sometimes to the tune of $20,000 to $40,000 a month on credit cards. When J.C. wants more money than the trust her parents arranged for her will provide, she can allegedly be verbally abusive and emotionally manipulative towards her father. Apparently, Lee’s late wife Joanie was able to control J.C., but ever since her death last July she has gotten out of hand. quote:Lee’s access to his longtime assistant was also mysteriously, suddenly limited, and Morgan fired the rest of Lee’s staff. Lee’s phone number was changed, and Morgan began insisting on reading all of Lee’s emails, saying Lee has macular degeneration and needs someone to read them for him. quote:When Morgan discovered THR had obtained a copy of the aforementioned declaration, he sent the outlet a video of Lee saying “my relationship with my daughter has never been better, and my friend Keya Morgan and I also have a great relationship … anybody who is saying anything [else] … is just spreading lies.” quote:As recently as March 15, employees at Pow! Entertainment, the production company Lee co-founded in 2001, called the LAPD after Morgan and J.C. went to Lee’s office and removed items in the middle of the night.
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For what it's worth, here's the video mentioned of Stan refuting some of those claims.
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Robot Style posted:For what it's worth, here's the video mentioned of Stan refuting some of those claims. That video is mentioned in the article. He is only communicating with the outside world through pre-recorded video tapes released by his daughter and her lawyer. And having been through some issues with elder abuse, the elder denying it is not a sign that it isn't happening. Even in very obvious cases.
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Robot Style posted:For what it's worth, here's the video mentioned of Stan refuting some of those claims. Is he holding up today's newspaper in any of these videos?
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I think if you have a friend who cried because they saw the infinity war trailer you should be publicly flogged. not your friend of course That would be cruel
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Anybody post this yet? Cathy Yan to Direct Harley Quinn Spinoff Starring Margot Robbie quote:Cathy Yan has been tapped to direct a DC spinoff movie centered on crazed supervillain Harley Quinn. The girl gang movie will be based on the “Birds of Prey” comic, with Margot Robbie attached to star. Does this mean DC might actually be sticking with the existing Justice League universe for the time being?
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Despite the online reputation, Suicide Squad did well and Margot Robbie was popular. I'm certain Harley Quinn merchandising will cover the cost of production alone.
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Crows Turn Off posted:Anybody post this yet? Anyone familiar with her previous work? One feature and some shorts is a scant resume for a big budget movie like this
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Crows Turn Off posted:Does this mean DC might actually be sticking with the existing Justice League universe for the time being? Yeah, there's no way they're not keeping Wonder Woman and Harley Quinn the same, and they've got Aquaman coming out and they just brought on a new creative team for Flash. I think they'll just ignore whatever they want to and carry on. Edit: As easy as it is to see the whole DCEU as a failure, they've only had one movie that tanked at the box office.
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LesterGroans posted:Yeah, there's no way they're not keeping Wonder Woman and Harley Quinn the same, and they've got Aquaman coming out and they just brought on a new creative team for Flash. I think they'll just ignore whatever they want to and carry on. They're definitely not abandoning the DCEU (I don't think anything to the contrary has even been rumored), but there have been so many different films and future plans reported over the past couple years that I take every one with a grain of salt until it starts production. Well, except Wonder Woman 2. That's a real thing.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I think if you have a friend who cried because they saw the infinity war trailer you should be publicly flogged. Yeah cry during sports events like a respectable man!!
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Yeah cry during sports events like a respectable man!!
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DC shouldn't announce anything unless they have a script, director, and shooting schedule locked in.
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:DC shouldn't announce anything unless they have a script, director, and shooting schedule locked in. How will they know what to move forward with if they can't see how Twitter reacts to an announcement?
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:DC shouldn't announce anything unless they have a script, director, and shooting schedule locked in. You're gonna look really dumb when Green Lantern 2, The Flash, the Joker solo movie, and Batman: Year One come out last year.
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Sir Kodiak posted:How will they know what to move forward with if they can't see how Twitter reacts to an announcement? ouch
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Sir Kodiak posted:How will they know what to move forward with if they can't see how Twitter reacts to an announcement? hahaha Barry Convex posted:They're definitely not abandoning the DCEU (I don't think anything to the contrary has even been rumored), but there have been so many different films and future plans reported over the past couple years that I take every one with a grain of salt until it starts production. Aren't there something like 4 Harley Quinn films "in production"? I guess this one getting a director is good news for its prospects.
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LesterGroans posted:hahaha In development, you mean ("in production" usually means that it's actually filming), but yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. At various points since late 2016, Gotham City Sirens (which I guess was merged at some point with BoP, resulting in Yan's film?), a Harley Quinn solo film, and a Joker/Harley film have all been reported to be in development, and that's on top of Suicide Squad 2.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Yeah cry during sports events like a respectable man!! If you cry during those you're a dork too.
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Barry Convex posted:In development, you mean ("in production" usually means that it's actually filming), but yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. At various points since late 2016, Gotham City Sirens (which I guess was merged at some point with BoP, resulting in Yan's film?), a Harley Quinn solo film, and a Joker/Harley film have all been reported to be in development, and that's on top of Suicide Squad 2. The Harleyverse.
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well, this is... unexpected https://twitter.com/HeatVisionBlog/status/986364179471675392 Barry Convex fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Apr 17, 2018 |
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:DC shouldn't announce anything unless they have a script, director, and shooting schedule locked in. To reiterate. josh04 fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Apr 17, 2018 |
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Barry Convex posted:well, this is... unexpected This is cool and good. Spielberg, serialized comics and WWII are a good fit.
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Barry Convex posted:well, this is... unexpected Possibly large asterisk: quote:Through his production company Ambling Entertainment, Steven Spielberg is already confirmed to produce Blackhawks, but as THR reports, the movie was initially developed as a "directing vehicle." David Koepp, who previously worked with Spielberg on the first two Jurassic Park movies, War of the Worlds and Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, is writing the script. However, before you get too excited, don't expect Blackhawk to be Spielberg's next movie. The director already has Indiana Jones 5 lined up, and after that, he's planning on tackling the West Side Story remake, so it'll be a while before Blackhawk gets off the ground. quote:Initial talks are complete and a writer is attached, but the idea is still early on with no firm plans for when to start production.
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If Wikipedia is to be believed, Spielberg has been interested in adapting Blackhawk since as far back as the early 1980s. Huh.
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So like DC is going back to the prestige director with unique visions concept but with prestige producers instead via Spielberg Blackhawk and Scorsese Joker.
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