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SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

Jesus that's depressing

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

SunAndSpring posted:

Jesus that's depressing

I can’t imagine being a cop on an investigation like that and not going insane or becoming severely depressed after five minutes.

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

pookel posted:

Not sure "proudly" is the word here. These people probably see themselves as martyrs, subjecting themselves to such tortures in order to investigate the crimes of the Deep State.

I can't imagine anyone is so stupid that they think a video of an extremely high-profile US politician removing the face of a still-living child and then wearing it is something you'd just be able to find by randomly looking through child porn. As though it's all somehow sitting in one big repository and you just have to click around for a while until you find it. Like, what, literally no one else saw it and went, "gee, this is something maybe other people should know about?" The only possibilities I can think of are that they're way, way, way stupider than I can conceive of, that they're straight-up fakeposting to troll or lure a bunch of rubes into honeypots, or that it's a bunch of pedophiles going, "why, I'm looking at all of this child porn in the name of justice! *wink*"

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

business hammocks posted:

I can’t imagine being a cop on an investigation like that and not going insane or becoming severely depressed after five minutes.

I imagine it's similar to people like pediatric oncologists, its absolutely heartbreaking but you do it for the ones that you save. It definitely takes a certain kind of person.

It's a small thing, but I'm a fan of the TraffikCam App. The feds use it to crowdsource images of hotel rooms to help track down people like they did above.

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

Kit Walker posted:

I can't imagine anyone is so stupid that they think a video of an extremely high-profile US politician removing the face of a still-living child and then wearing it is something you'd just be able to find by randomly looking through child porn. As though it's all somehow sitting in one big repository and you just have to click around for a while until you find it.
I don't think many of these people are actively looking for it, because they're grandmas and they don't know how. But they sure as heck are hoping some brave young hacker* will unearth the truth for them.

* Anyone whose basic internet skills are above the level of "how do I upload a meme so I can be a MEME WARRIOR?" that I saw on that Reddit board.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Reclines Obesily posted:

baked alaska tried to but i think he’s having a nervous breakdown

he also seems to think he has a show coming to netflix

a show in which every day, baked alaska gets owned really hard

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

pookel posted:

I don't think many of these people are actively looking for it, because they're grandmas and they don't know how. But they sure as heck are hoping some brave young hacker* will unearth the truth for them.

* Anyone whose basic internet skills are above the level of "how do I upload a meme so I can be a MEME WARRIOR?" that I saw on that Reddit board.

i don't really think they want to see the violent child porn because it makes them horny or w/e, i think it's more that they want their schitzo narrative to be validated by hard evidence

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Al! posted:

i don't really think they want to see the violent child porn because it makes them horny or w/e, i think it's more that they want their schitzo narrative to be validated by hard evidence

Yeah it's this. The actual nonces don't try to publicly justify themselves. Not until they're caught anyway

These guys are just morons

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Gum posted:

Yeah it's this. The actual nonces don't try to publicly justify themselves. Not until they're caught anyway

These guys are just morons

it still makes me sick because they'd rather that a child be raped and mutilated than their narrative disrupted

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



business hammocks posted:

I can’t imagine being a cop on an investigation like that and not going insane or becoming severely depressed after five minutes.

There was a goon that used to do this, I think. They said therapists were generally available for whoever needed one, but that the burnout rate was about as high as you’d expect.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

business hammocks posted:

I can’t imagine being a cop on an investigation like that and not going insane or becoming severely depressed after five minutes.

It's horrific. Even more than normal people can imagine.

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Al! posted:

it still makes me sick because they'd rather that a child be raped and mutilated than their narrative disrupted

Mate I know. You won't see me shedding any tears for the ones that get locked up

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

Al! posted:

it still makes me sick because they'd rather that a child be raped and mutilated than their narrative disrupted

It's such a pathetic narrative too. I can't comprehend how these people are feeling empowered by the fact that they think their opposition is literally supernaturally empowered by the Devil, and that the only guy opposing Satan is Donald Trump

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out
I can't comprehend anyone who doesn't see that Trump would throw his lot in with Satan the first chance he got

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


the difference between Benghazi and pizzagate/qanon is that the people trumpeting Benghazi really transparently knew it was bullshit and didn’t care, they wanted a cudgel to beat Hillary with

the qanon people are all true believers

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

the difference between Benghazi and pizzagate/qanon is that the people trumpeting Benghazi really transparently knew it was bullshit and didn’t care, they wanted a cudgel to beat Hillary with

the qanon people are all true believers

also benghazi was a conspiracy theory about an actual event so you could claim you were just asking questions about her competence etc, whereas there's nothing to fall back on for the qanon cultists

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

the difference between Benghazi and pizzagate/qanon is that the people trumpeting Benghazi really transparently knew it was bullshit and didn’t care, they wanted a cudgel to beat Hillary with

the qanon people are all true believers

In both cases you have the people creating the conspiracy who know it is bullshit and the people following the conspiracy who buy into it. The different is QAnon is being done by a single dude as opposed to the GOP media machine

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Jeb! Repetition posted:

Are there any historical examples of people coming up with conspiracies this insane? Or is it a case of the Internet Making You Stupid

I can assure you, friend, history is full of crazy conspiracies and dumb beliefs. Just sticking to American presidential politics, the level of demonization that happened to the "other guy", let alone perpetual paranoid fears about the reds etc (which as a paranoid style stretches back considerably further than the existence of socialism) has lead to all sorts of hosed up beliefs. If you look at the John Birch Socitey in the 1950s, they had all sorts of theories that were just as loony, from fluoride in water being a commie mind control plot, to the government using Alaska (then a territory, not a state) to set up psychological concentration camps for Birchers. If you want to dive into 1950s Bircher beliefs, it's pretty much the same poo poo.

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

Gum posted:

I can't comprehend anyone who doesn't see that Trump would throw his lot in with Satan the first chance he got

“Folks, I’m working with the original deal maker. He makes such good deals, like the apple thing. We’re gonna bring all the jobs back with him on our side. That’s why the book of the Bible he’s in is called the Book of Job.”

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
donald trump basically fits the biblical description of the antichrist lol

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
The Qanon stuff is depressing because it’s a bunch of people willing to accept magical thinking and an elaborate conspiracy rather than the actual reality of them being screwed over by the ruling class.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:

business hammocks posted:

I can’t imagine being a cop on an investigation like that and not going insane or becoming severely depressed after five minutes.

I used to know a detective who worked with the a state task force, he was considered an expert in estimating how old a child in a video or photo was and was used as an expert witness. He also developed a severe drinking problem and pretty much disappeared after retiring

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Al! posted:

donald trump basically fits the biblical description of the antichrist lol

The biblical description of an antichrist is "Anyone who denies that Jesus is the Messiah"

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Gum posted:

The biblical description of an antichrist is "Anyone who denies that Jesus is the Messiah"

i thought there was also a whole layer about placing themselves above god and being worshipped

i've def seen ppl say that they believe donald trump is the second coming

BurntCornMuffin
Jan 9, 2009


business hammocks posted:

I can’t imagine being a cop on an investigation like that and not going insane or becoming severely depressed after five minutes.

I hear they rotate people on such investigations pretty often to prevent exactly that.

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

Al! posted:

i don't really think they want to see the violent child porn because it makes them horny or w/e, i think it's more that they want their schitzo narrative to be validated by hard evidence

I mean, this part is pretty logical once you accept their absolutely batshit premise. If you truly believe that prominent politicians are child-murdering Satanists, then lordy, you hope there are tapes.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

The Qanon stuff is depressing because it’s a bunch of people willing to accept magical thinking and an elaborate conspiracy rather than the actual reality of them being screwed over by the ruling class.

Qanon people, at least the ones I've seen, tend to be socially if not economically close to the ruling class

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Tias posted:

I did in periods, and trust me when I say they are way bigger assholes (and, incredibly enough, bigger sexist scum) than nerds.

I have nerd friends and normie friends and goon types never believe me that normies are way more sexist than nerds in spite of gamergate

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Al! posted:

i thought there was also a whole layer about placing themselves above god and being worshipped

i've def seen ppl say that they believe donald trump is the second coming

2 John 1:7

I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
lol who cares about made up fairy tales

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
I’m imagining the bit in the Left Behind books where the Antichrist greets EVERY NATION in the UN in their respective languages except it’s Trump trying to do that :allears:

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Gum posted:

2 John 1:7

I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.

welp guess im a big ol antichrist then lol

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

pillsburysoldier posted:

The Alt Right has been deleting their Unite The Right Streams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcoYKuoiUrY

So because you linked this, I watched some of this guy's other videos ("Shaun") and I find them quite thoughtful and well done. He indicates that he is or was a goon and has spent a lot of time on these here forums.

Does anyone know his username?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Zwabu posted:

So because you linked this, I watched some of this guy's other videos ("Shaun") and I find them quite thoughtful and well done. He indicates that he is or was a goon and has spent a lot of time on these here forums.

Does anyone know his username?

His current handle is It Shaun, though I don't know if he posts any more. He used to participate in a thread we had about youtube reactionaries, but it got gassed for hosting too many lovely slapfight arguments. I don't know his old handle that he would have used to post way back when, and I don't know if he'd be comfortable with people knowing and sharing it.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

business hammocks posted:

His current handle is It Shaun, though I don't know if he posts any more. He used to participate in a thread we had about youtube reactionaries, but it got gassed for hosting too many lovely slapfight arguments. I don't know his old handle that he would have used to post way back when, and I don't know if he'd be comfortable with people knowing and sharing it.

No, that's cool, if the guy has basically moved on from SA I totally respect that, what he is doing on YouTube is really good and I hope he finds a good audience and is successful with it. I was only curious if he was a well known current goon or someone whose posting I knew well in this context.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

C2C - 2.0
May 14, 2006

Dubs In The Key Of Life


Lipstick Apathy

You can strike a thinking man's pose and still be a dumb loving airhead.

The Crotch
Oct 16, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Al! posted:

i thought there was also a whole layer about placing themselves above god and being worshipped

i've def seen ppl say that they believe donald trump is the second coming
As I understand it, the common conception of the Antichrist as a singular, apocalyptic figure comes from the fever-dreams of 19th-century ministers who mashed together bits and pieces of all sorts of different books to create a cohesive narrative.

D.Ork Bimboolean
Aug 26, 2016

Zwabu posted:

So because you linked this, I watched some of this guy's other videos ("Shaun") and I find them quite thoughtful and well done. He indicates that he is or was a goon and has spent a lot of time on these here forums.

Does anyone know his username?

He's best buds with HBomberguy, another and current Leftist SA Goon alumni.

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Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

business hammocks posted:

I can’t imagine being a cop on an investigation like that and not going insane or becoming severely depressed after five minutes.

Bill Gates once ordered Microsoft to make a piece of database software that would help them categorize child porn via a flagging system and share it around internationally without everyone having to look at every video and picture. It was probably the kindest thing that he's ever done.

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