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McNally posted:I don't think Gary actually turned her, I think it just took her longer to turn because her ESP score wasn't as high. Ahem I believe you mean her esper rating, please get these important scientific measurements right.
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McNally posted:I don't think Gary actually turned her, I think it just took her longer to turn because her ESP score wasn't as high. Hm, it always seemed as if he was responsible for her going mutant, but that may just be my perception of what happened. I've only actually seen the episode, like, three times, they never showed it in the rotation on tv when I was a kid.
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Apr 20, 2018 16:16
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Nah, it was the barrier. They both get blasted when they go through.
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Apr 20, 2018 16:17
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No, Dehner was zapped with the same thing as Gary in the Galactic Barrier. Because her "esper rating" was lower than his, though, it took longer for her to start showing the effects (conveniently, right around the time that Gary decided that he was a god).
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Apr 20, 2018 16:18
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MikeJF posted:It's Star Trek tradition that you can basically get away with breaking whatever rules and orders you want if you think it's The Right Thing To Do. Admiral Pressman's only crime was not preparing a good convincing speech on why his crimes were the Right Thing To Do because Romulans are bad
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Apr 20, 2018 16:29
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No, I always got that, that she got zapped too, I just always interpreted it as he got enough of a zap/had a high enough ESP(er) rating to change, while she didn't without additional zapping/mutantry-inducing on his part to get her to change as well. Not that he caused it from 0 to 100, but that she wouldn't have changed if it wasn't for him. I accept that I may have misunderstandinged, though (but maintain that it's an understandable one).
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Apr 20, 2018 16:31
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quote:DEHNER: Yes, it just took a little longer for it to happen to me.
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Apr 20, 2018 16:41
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Pakled posted:TOS as a whole is a good show, definitely not unwatchable. Some individual episodes are unwatchable, though. Actually probably just The Alternative Factor. I always said that The Omega Glory was pretty bad but my friend Dayton argues that 'And The Children Shall Lead' is the objectively worst episode.
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Apr 20, 2018 17:42
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I hate any episode of anything where children are all that remains/weirdly powerful
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Apr 20, 2018 17:48
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8one6 posted:I always said that The Omega Glory was pretty bad but my friend Dayton argues that 'And The Children Shall Lead' is the objectively worst episode. It's this. I can even muscle through the Alternative Factor, and Omega Glory at least has a great deranged starship captain, whatever you think of the piledriver of its blatant message. But those child actors....
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Apr 20, 2018 17:49
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Omega Glory is jaw dropping nonsense but I find it entertaining. It’s energetic enough to paper over its staggering inadequacies, kind of like Spock’s Brain. Children Shall Lead is also jaw dropping nonsense but also boring twenty minutes of plot stretched out to an hour, like a lot of third season eps but more so.
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Apr 20, 2018 17:51
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MikeJF posted:It's Star Trek tradition that you can basically get away with breaking whatever rules and orders you want if you think it's The Right Thing To Do. Unless its letting a planet full of sentient beings die because that's the natural order of things.
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Apr 20, 2018 18:08
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I personally loathe Turnabout Intruder more. Women can't be starship captains, silly, they're too emotional and it's not worth even promoting them in the command ranks because they'll meet a nice man, get pregnant, and retire to be a stay at home mom.
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Apr 20, 2018 18:11
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I still want to know how exactly proto-Vulcans can even be a thing.
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Apr 20, 2018 18:11
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Sash! posted:I still want to know how exactly proto-Vulcans can even be a thing. The Chase
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:It's this. I can even muscle through the Alternative Factor, and Omega Glory at least has a great deranged starship captain, whatever you think of the piledriver of its blatant message. But those child actors.... Any time there's a deranged Starfleet captain, I'm on board 100%
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Cythereal posted:I personally loathe Turnabout Intruder more. Women can't be starship captains, silly, they're too emotional and it's not worth even promoting them in the command ranks because they'll meet a nice man, get pregnant, and retire to be a stay at home mom. At least Turnabout Intruder has Shatner turned all the way up to 11. Now, The Lights of Zetar, there's a mind-numbingly dull slog.
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Sash! posted:I still want to know how exactly proto-Vulcans can even be a thing. Makes about as much sense as regular Vulcans when you think about it.
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Cythereal posted:I personally loathe Turnabout Intruder more. Women can't be starship captains, silly, they're too emotional and it's not worth even promoting them in the command ranks because they'll meet a nice man, get pregnant, and retire to be a stay at home mom. That latter part is from the ep where they meet Apollo. Turnabout Intruder is the one where any woman who even wants to command is obviously deranged. That said I did appreciate that one of Spock's arguments at the trial was "what do you mean possession is far-fetched, we've seen weirder poo poo than this on a regular basis"
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One of my favorite happy accidents in Trek is that the silver contact lenses that Gary Lockwood had to wear were so physically painful and blinding that the only way he could see anything was to angle his head up high and look down -- which inadvertently gave Mitchell that otherworldly, eerie, "holy poo poo this is hosed" appearance.
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Apr 20, 2018 19:13
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VitalSigns posted:That actually sounds horrible and dangerous LeVar Burton was walking into walls and doors because he couldn't see poo poo through the VISOR, in addition to the prop being horribly painful when it was redesigned because they screwed it into his temples to fasten it. Horrible and dangerous is kind of a thing with Trek 
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Good news everyone, someone discovered that a potent and sensitive explosive is also a semiconductor. There's hope yet for Starfleet consoles.
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Arglebargle III posted:Good news everyone, someone discovered that a potent and sensitive explosive is also a semiconductor. There's hope yet for Starfleet consoles. But who's gonna fill em with rocks and debris and crap?
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Arglebargle III posted:Good news everyone, someone discovered that a potent and sensitive explosive is also a semiconductor. There's hope yet for Starfleet consoles. ...also if we surround it with rocks, it acts as shielding against cosmic rays. Just any kind of rocks. No, we don't know why yet
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After The War posted:James "Rough Edges" Kirk. the R stands for retcon
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Arglebargle III posted:Good news everyone, someone discovered that a potent and sensitive explosive is also a semiconductor. There's hope yet for Starfleet consoles. The in-setting justification is that it's the electro-plasma system conduit powering the console that explodes - these are the EPS conduits that occasionally get mentioned in treknobabble and distribute power throughout the ship. So... an actual explosive material is probably still safer.
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There's an episode where Captain Kirk has a fistfight with Leonardo Da Vinci and Johannes Brahms, who are the same person.
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Arglebargle III posted:Good news everyone, someone discovered that a potent and sensitive explosive is also a semiconductor. There's hope yet for Starfleet consoles. Let me tell you about the glory of Kapton, a wire casing which is thin, lightweight, and a good insulator. Until it gets damaged, which is when it becomes insanely combustible. Starfleet must be still using it.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Let me tell you about the glory of Kapton, a wire casing which is thin, lightweight, and a good insulator. They are, but as an added safety measure, they surround all of their wires with one pound of stones per linear foot. The stones are fireproof because, well, they're stones. Stones won't burn like the wire casing will. All it takes is a thick slathering of specially prepared powdered mucilage that's been soaked in nitroglycerin to get the chunks of stone to adhere to the wires, and you have all you need to avoid spontaneous console combustion.
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I really wish Star Trek: Into Darkness had been a retelling of Gary Mitchell's fabulous magic powers. Benedict Cumberbatch would've made a much better Gary Mitchell than a white and nerdy Khan. I don't know how you would tie it into 9-11 though. The bit about the contacts forcing the actor to look up is great (and terrifying). That posture makes it look like he no longer needs his eyes to see! Much better than Charlie X and his constipated stare.
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The Orville finally delivered on my vision of the future when the first officer replicated a weed brownie. Full High Gay Space Communism Now
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Watching The Naked Time Great use of an environmental protection suit
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Watching The Naked Time captain, though i have smelt it i am now reasonably certain that it was not i who dealt it.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:
It's life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it...
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A planet dying in the background as they deal with space madness is an artistic idea, hope they do it justice
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Now, The Lights of Zetar, there's a mind-numbingly dull slog. Insert joke here about it being the episode where the name "Memory Alpha" was taken from to christen the premiere Trek wiki.
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