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wargames
Mar 16, 2008

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Whale Cancer posted:

27 1080 is fine. Trying to stay cheap right now.

This isn't terrible

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824025516R

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BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Whale Cancer posted:

27 1080 is fine. Trying to stay cheap right now.

Lenovo sells a 27" 1440p IPS display for ~$200, typically.

https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories-and-monitors/monitors/home/L27q-20-27-QHD-MonitorHDMI%2BDP/p/65D4GCC1US

It's $239 now, but they have had a coupon bring it down to $199 in the past.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Apr 22, 2018

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

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Parker Lewis posted:

I bought the IPS XB271HU two years ago to play Overwatch with high framerate/g-sync and it’s strange to me that it’s still the best 16:9 27” gaming monitor in 2018.

I guess I don’t know what the next logical upgrade would be though.. HDR, 4K, and/or 200+ Hz? I guess monitor innovation is being held back by a combination of lack of GPUs to drive things at 4K, production issues with panels, and maybe just being kind of a niche market overall.

It's not the best anymore. 4K 144 Hz 27" HDR monitors just hit the market within the last month or two.

Yaoi Gagarin
Feb 20, 2014

Personally I want the gaming monitor market to go towards ever higher refresh rates at 1440p but I guess 4k is happening instead

4k TVs on the other hand look pretty fire

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

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VostokProgram posted:

Personally I want the gaming monitor market to go towards ever higher refresh rates at 1440p but I guess 4k is happening instead

4k TVs on the other hand look pretty fire

Yeah I'd much rather have 200 or 240 Hz 1440p than 144 Hz 4K, but apparently I'm a weirdo for thinking that.

1440p at 27" is already pretty loving "crisp" or whatever, you don't need to use DPI scaling in Windows like you do at 4K, and it's much easier to render.

Qubee
May 31, 2013




isn't 165Hz enough?

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Paul MaudDib posted:

It's not the best anymore. 4K 144 Hz 27" HDR monitors just hit the market within the last month or two.

HDMI2.1 I guess? Or is HDR-or-144?

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015

Q8ee posted:

isn't 165Hz enough?

Gotta get those bigger numbers, my friend. Ever higher numbers!

Avalanche
Feb 2, 2007
OLED will probably never happen with monitors. Burn in is a really serious thing. Even the OLED 'monitors' Dell and Asus have put out in limited numbers have a ton of gimicky anti-burn in features like the monitor auto turning off when you leave the desk via some built in motion sensor. By the time OLED burn-in would become a non-issue due to tech changes and millions of customer complaints, MicroLED will already be out which is apparently the new holy grail of displays way beyond OLED.

So, basically the same reason there never was a push for plasma monitors. Besides, some of the panels samsung has been making GBS threads out in the TV market already match or just slightly surpass LG OLEDs in terms of color output and or only deficient in terms of black levels.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

Parker Lewis posted:

I bought the IPS XB271HU two years ago to play Overwatch with high framerate/g-sync and it’s strange to me that it’s still the best 16:9 27” gaming monitor in 2018.

I guess I don’t know what the next logical upgrade would be though.. HDR, 4K, and/or 200+ Hz? I guess monitor innovation is being held back by a combination of lack of GPUs to drive things at 4K, production issues with panels, and maybe just being kind of a niche market overall.

I upgraded from the XB271HU to a 34P and I’d be pretty happy sticking with 3440x1440 for a while but my biggest complaint is that the IPS glow is now more noticeable on the wider/curved screen. Is there any hope of getting OLED gaming monitors in the next few years?

I've got 4 27" 1440p Dell monitors and I don't really see a clear upgrade path. 1440p at 27" is a sweet spot of clarity vs not having to use scaling, and I don't really see what 4k offers without pushing the size up quite a bit. And at that point, the side monitors etc start going out the window, removing utility (for what I do, anyways).

Choices, choices.

Thankfully I have a new money pit (track day car), so the monitor upgrades can wait :v:

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Avalanche posted:

OLED will probably never happen with monitors. Burn in is a really serious thing. Even the OLED 'monitors' Dell and Asus have put out in limited numbers have a ton of gimicky anti-burn in features like the monitor auto turning off when you leave the desk via some built in motion sensor. By the time OLED burn-in would become a non-issue due to tech changes and millions of customer complaints, MicroLED will already be out which is apparently the new holy grail of displays way beyond OLED.

So, basically the same reason there never was a push for plasma monitors. Besides, some of the panels samsung has been making GBS threads out in the TV market already match or just slightly surpass LG OLEDs in terms of color output and or only deficient in terms of black levels.

Also, people just *accept* one year warranties now on televisions. Good luck selling a new-in-box monitor with only a year's warranty.

Probably the best bet buying an OLED is to apply for a Citi card and buy it from Costco - a one year extended warranty from the Citi card through SquareTrade, and another optional five from a Costco-bought SquareTrade extended warranty for seven years total.

Parker Lewis
Jan 4, 2006

Can't Lose


Wibla posted:

I've got 4 27" 1440p Dell monitors and I don't really see a clear upgrade path. 1440p at 27" is a sweet spot of clarity vs not having to use scaling, and I don't really see what 4k offers without pushing the size up quite a bit. And at that point, the side monitors etc start going out the window, removing utility (for what I do, anyways).

Choices, choices.

Thankfully I have a new money pit (track day car), so the monitor upgrades can wait :v:

Yeah, same here though I ended up getting the 120Hz X34P because I wanted to consolidate down from having a 27" 144Hz monitor for games and a 34" 60Hz monitor for work.

I guess things like HDR and better color depth/contrast could be improvements but going to whatever the ultrawide equivalent of 4K would be seems like it would have diminishing returns on top of being a lot harder to drive than 1440p.

I'll still be curious to see how the 200Hz VA-panel ultrawide Acer X35/ASUS PG35VQ monitors turn out if they ever make it to market but for now I'm glad I decided to just get the X34P instead of waiting for one of those. There doesn't seem to be much else on the horizon that would be a potential upgrade, given the current rate that new monitors are coming out and how often they're being delayed.

Generic Monk
Oct 31, 2011

Paul MaudDib posted:

It's not the best anymore. 4K 144 Hz 27" HDR monitors just hit the market within the last month or two.

there's no way they even come close to displaying a proper representation of an hdr signal tho

VostokProgram posted:

Personally I want the gaming monitor market to go towards ever higher refresh rates at 1440p but I guess 4k is happening instead

4k TVs on the other hand look pretty fire

am I the only person who really just wants a hidpi ips monitor at a non-insane price? maybe it's because i don't use windows idk

Generic Monk fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Apr 23, 2018

DrDork
Dec 29, 2003
commanding officer of the Army of Dorkness

Generic Monk posted:

am I the only person who really just wants a hidpi ips monitor at a non-insane price? maybe it's because i don't use windows idk

Not using Windows is a factor, yeah. Despite it being 2018, Microsoft keeps trying to basically ignore high-dpi monitors that aren't a Surface. Most of us would rather high-hz than high-dpi because of said issues, and that 27"@1440p is "crisp enough," while there's still some headroom to be had by pushing Hz up to like 240 or so. Or bringing prices down on the current 120/144/165 offerings, which honestly are already "fast enough" for almost everyone.

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

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Generic Monk posted:

am I the only person who really just wants a hidpi ips monitor at a non-insane price? maybe it's because i don't use windows idk

Basic 27" 4K IPS models are under $300 and for a more professional product you can still get a P2715Q for like $350, just how cheap do you expect them to get here?

It'll be a while before they break under $200... you can't even get a 27" 1440p IPS for less than $250, but the price delta between 1440p and 4K is almost gone.

Generic Monk
Oct 31, 2011

Paul MaudDib posted:

Basic 27" 4K IPS models are under $300 and for a more professional product you can still get a P2715Q for like $350, just how cheap do you expect them to get here?

It'll be a while before they break under $200... you can't even get a 27" 1440p IPS for less than $250, but the price delta between 1440p and 4K is almost gone.

Is the p2715q IPS? I thought it was TN since they don’t mention it being IPS anywhere prominent, so I was looking at the ultrasharps instead. Looking at it, it’s 99% srgb like my current ips ultrasharp so I guess it is ips. That’s good to know; this thing is still going strong and works perfectly well tho so I’ll prob leave it a couple more years

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

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Generic Monk posted:

Is the p2715q IPS? I thought it was TN since they don’t mention it being IPS anywhere prominent, so I was looking at the ultrasharps instead. Looking at it, it’s 99% srgb like my current ips ultrasharp so I guess it is ips. That’s good to know; this thing is still going strong and works perfectly well tho so I’ll prob leave it a couple more years

Yes, and it remains the best choice for color range and out-of-box accuracy. Dell put out a U2718Q recently and it's rear end in comparison, like 75% sRGB, most of the LGs and other <$300 4K monitors are in the same ~75% ballpark.

(it's right on their store page though... "Panel Type: IPS", not exactly hidden :P)

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Q8ee posted:

isn't 165Hz enough?

I can't tell the difference between 144Hz and 165Hz. My friend said his K/D went up like 10% after flipping the 165Hz switch, claiming it's an imperceptible difference that can cause a real change/effect.

Maybe K/D ratios are the new reliable metric for monitors?

Kaedric
Sep 5, 2000

I ended up getting the XB27HU bmirpz or whatever and I laugh because I do feel like it made me better at video game. Only played one night last week when I got it but I was topping the leaderboards in R6S and just *felt* like I was on steroids or something.

Probably all in my head though

SpaceRangerJoe
Dec 24, 2003

The little hand says it's time to rock and roll.

Wibla posted:

Thankfully I have a new money pit (track day car), so the monitor upgrades can wait :v:

Tell me more!

My track car has been in the garage on jack stands for over a year. I really miss driving. On the plus side, I will be getting a new monitor soon to replace my decade old 24" Samsungs.

Generic Monk
Oct 31, 2011

Paul MaudDib posted:

Yes, and it remains the best choice for color range and out-of-box accuracy. Dell put out a U2718Q recently and it's rear end in comparison, like 75% sRGB, most of the LGs and other <$300 4K monitors are in the same ~75% ballpark.

(it's right on their store page though... "Panel Type: IPS", not exactly hidden :P)

u can tell i'm happy with my current monitor since i'm not poring over listings with a fine-toothed comb. or reading the titles apparently. gently caress.

list price on amazon is still £590 though which is pretty loving steep. i have a u2515h which has the same gamut coverage (verified personally with a colorimeter) and only slightly lower res, which was around half that price when i bought it 2 years ago. brexit effect i suppose


Kaedric posted:

I ended up getting the XB27HU bmirpz or whatever and I laugh because I do feel like it made me better at video game. Only played one night last week when I got it but I was topping the leaderboards in R6S and just *felt* like I was on steroids or something.

Probably all in my head though

i still can't believe that these ridic high refresh rate monitors make you palpably better at games unless you're like a 17yo amphetamine-chewing south korean as gently caress pro gamer. it seems like putting the cart before the horse somewhat, like investing in russian olympic blood-doping when you're trying to lose a few pounds for your wedding pictures as opposed to some earphones or running shoes

Generic Monk fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Apr 23, 2018

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Got my LG 27UD68-P. I love it! Thank you for the recommendation. Only thing...the LED blinks when it's in standby -- why?! It's irritating at night, haha.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
So the 27" Dell TN G-Sync display is $399 ~today only~ at Best Buy: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-27-led-qhd-gsync-monitor-black/5293502.p?skuId=5293502

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

SpaceRangerJoe posted:

Tell me more!

My track car has been in the garage on jack stands for over a year. I really miss driving. On the plus side, I will be getting a new monitor soon to replace my decade old 24" Samsungs.

(phone posting)

It's a '99 MX5 10AE with basically zero mods as of right now. Dropped a sparco sprint seat in last year, pondering suspension, brakes* and a roll bar this season, depending on cash flow.

*Putting on Ferodo DS2500 pads next week, but will probably upsize.

Bought it on a lark like 1.5 years ago and fell in love with the go-cart feel of it. But it's 18 years old, with less than stellar maintenance history, so I'm doing gearbox/diff oil etc soonest.

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




Going from my X34 1080ti desktop to my 13” 1080p laptop with an egpu on THunderbolt 3 but 2x only is night and day in PUBG.

People in this thread naysaying high end gaming displays are 100% wrong and are probably arguing as such to make themselves feel better about their pitiful set ups. Basically everyone in the goon PUBG discord who’s any good has a good display too.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

I will say that going from 27 inch 1440/144 to my xps13 isnt so fun but playing on my helios 300 is fine.

I do obviously prefer the desktop in every way

Kaedric
Sep 5, 2000

Generic Monk posted:

i still can't believe that these ridic high refresh rate monitors make you palpably better at games unless you're like a 17yo amphetamine-chewing south korean as gently caress pro gamer. it seems like putting the cart before the horse somewhat, like investing in russian olympic blood-doping when you're trying to lose a few pounds for your wedding pictures as opposed to some earphones or running shoes

I don't think it's a case of "OH WOW I can now react faster because more frames" and more a case of visual clarity due to smoothness (g-sync) and higher frames. I found I had less 'hiccups' where I'd be like "did I just see a dude oh I just got shot in the head".

I have old man reflexes so yeah definitely not a case of my twitch reaction time being any good.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

I just like high refresh rate porn. 144hz is pretty awesome in that regard.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
I've been out of the monitor space for a while, and I'm looking to consolidate and move to a smaller desk and use my laptop as a second monitor if I must. Current setup is two Dell U2412Ms that I bought 6 years ago, so if I'm going to replace them, I'd like to go a slightly bigger single monitor; however, it looks like the market has changed a bit...

Requirements:
- 27"+
- IPS
- Good color accuracy
- Decent enough stand out of the box

It looks like Dell's most recent line-up of Ultrasharps (UP3017, UP3016Q, UP2716D, etc) are kind of all over the map, but it looks like the 2716D might be the one I'm most interested in. Giving up 16:10 is gonna be sad.

Qubee
May 31, 2013




Omnicarus posted:

I just like high refresh rate porn. 144hz is pretty awesome in that regard.

is that even a thing?

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
Mile High Club

Q8ee posted:

is that even a thing?

Is ______ porn a thing?

You are too old or too young to be on this forum. Get out.

Qubee
May 31, 2013




Deuce posted:

Is ______ porn a thing?

You are too old or too young to be on this forum. Get out.

no, I meant what the gently caress even is high refresh rate porn. like what does it even add? or did he mean porn that's 60fps and stuff.

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




Imagine you see things more clearly, because you have more pixels. You can identify them more quickly because you have a higher refresh rate. Imagine that. I know this goes against your CS:GO "but even the pros play in 720" group think mentality, but really, it helps. Of course, you need the GPU to drive it, too.

Qubee
May 31, 2013




what's with the hostility, I was just hoping to nab a link of said porn, and also understand why higher refresh rate is better for it. The CSGO thing was just ???

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

VulgarandStupid posted:

Imagine you see things more clearly, because you have more pixels. You can identify them more quickly because you have a higher refresh rate. Imagine that. I know this goes against your CS:GO "but even the pros play in 720" group think mentality, but really, it helps. Of course, you need the GPU to drive it, too.

post lives up to the username

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Smoother video is smoother video. There's no special benefit to porn in higher frame rates.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Q8ee posted:

is that even a thing?

I don't know, I mean I dream but who don't. Sorry if I got your hopes up bro, I was just bullshitting, I've had a pretty good buzz going for bout three years now and titties is titties when your heart Hz.

Qubee
May 31, 2013




np man I found some 60fps porn out of it so all is good in the world

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

144Hz anything is the real deal. 60fps porn is really really hard to find in good quality/quantity I imagine 144Hz is a similarly elusive white whale.

A boy can dream, though.

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PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

jokes posted:

144Hz anything is the real deal. 60fps porn is really really hard to find in good quality/quantity I imagine 144Hz is a similarly elusive white whale.

A boy can dream, though.

Play porn games, generate your own frame rate :colbert:

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