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Unreal was one of those confluences of technological and artistic capabilities we see so rarely in game design. Thanks for reminding us!
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Listening to the soundtrack makes me want to find a copy of Unreal 1 and play through it again. Apparently there are community patches that brings the engine up to DX9 compatibility. e: It's on GoG. 
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Apr 20, 2018 09:48
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Wasabi the J posted:What words would you use? Impeccable? Immaculate? Exemplary? I'm not going to disagree with you....but you can't use the word flawless unless you have English as a third language or are legally deaf. The accents - particularly the Asian ones - are so bad that the Vietnamese prostitute in Full Metal Jacket sounds like a genuine native in comparison.
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Apr 20, 2018 09:56
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All its weirdnesses combines into awesome.
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Apr 20, 2018 13:41
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Deus Ex is super loving clunky if you're comparing the gameplay to anything made in the last decade, but the story holds up 100%. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juMRdaHDxKw
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Apr 20, 2018 15:24
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monolithburger posted:May as well do a pacifist run while you're at it. Well yeah. Always. I don't think I've ever not done a pacifist run of a Deus Ex game. I also usually try for ghost runs in HR/MD. Volcott posted:Deus Ex is super loving clunky if you're comparing the gameplay to anything made in the last decade, but the story holds up 100%. Pretty much, yeah. But the clunkiness is lovable in a way unlike Invisible War. And the story is better than any of the sequels/prequels.
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Apr 20, 2018 19:44
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Magnus Praeda posted:Well yeah. Always. I don't think I've ever not done a pacifist run of a Deus Ex game. I also usually try for ghost runs in HR/MD. There is a reason why I tend not to replay old games I loved when they came out. Even though I KNOW the graphics are low quality compared to nowadays I can't help but feel dissapointed. ^ Also why I refuse to watch Street Fighter, The Wizard and a few other movies. Don't want to ruin my childhood love. I'm on the shelf with watching 'Top Kids' - spent a long time trying to remember the title and eventually bought it on DVD, but nope it sits there in shrinkwrap unwatched.
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Apr 21, 2018 03:38
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Humphreys posted:There is a reason why I tend not to replay old games I loved when they came out. Even though I KNOW the graphics are low quality compared to nowadays I can't help but feel dissapointed. Mortal Kombat still holds up, depending on how much you enjoy cinematic insanity.
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Apr 21, 2018 03:43
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It holds up with some video games I've tried to replay, but not with others. I replay Fallout 1 & 2 and the BG games every few years.
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Apr 21, 2018 04:06
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Humphreys posted:There is a reason why I tend not to replay old games I loved when they came out. Even though I KNOW the graphics are low quality compared to nowadays I can't help but feel dissapointed. For the most part I don't actually mind the lovely graphics of old games, they still have a certain nostalgic feel that I like. The main problem for me with a lot of old games is the gameplay/controls. We're pretty spoiled these days with customisable controls and 20+ years of refining what works and what doesn't. A good example for me is early RTS games like the original Warcraft and Red Alert. I tried playing them not too long ago and it was just a slog because they have none of the conveniences of modern RTS games that I'm used to. Also early FPSs which were keyboard only, I'm way too used to mouselook now. If I replay something like Doom, I'll always use a modern source port.
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Apr 21, 2018 04:59
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the desert strke series still holds up, also shinning force.
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Apr 21, 2018 05:02
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I'm replaying the 3ds remake of Ocarina of Time, and it still holds up very, very well. Not having to play it on a 64 controller probably helps.
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Apr 21, 2018 05:13
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:We're pretty spoiled these days with customisable controls There was a horrendous decade or so when PC game controls got a lot worse due to consoles. I'm not sure they've totally recovered yet. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO has a new favorite as of 05:16 on Apr 21, 2018 |
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Apr 21, 2018 05:14
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:There was a horrendous decade or so when PC game controls got a lot worse due to consoles. I'm not sure they've totally recovered yet. I recall the need for speed games had no mouse support and the custom car interfaces were a pain to use.
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Apr 21, 2018 05:42
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A while ago I picked up X-Wing and TIE Fighter from gog.com. I started the first mission, and before I even knew what was happening I had shunted weapon power to the shields, adjusted the recharge rates, gone to full throttle, targeted the nearest enemy fighter, and directed my wingmen to attack the others at will. I couldn't have told you what buttons I pressed to do this. I still can't. I just kind of... did it. Muscle memory from 20+ years ago kicked in. I guess flying an X-Wing is like riding a bike.
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WebDog posted:Oh yeah. Bonus with lazy ports that left in controller graphics on the tutorials. Or remapping the shoulder buttons or triggers to awkward key positions. Really sucks. Maybe RTS didn't get it in the same way. The only problem I get with old late 90s /very early 2000s FPS games: they probably won't recognise controllers or extra mouse buttons. But if it's on the keyboard, it's fair game. If that happens now I feel blessed (and shouldn't, fully user defineable keys should be a solved problem) I bought the evil within a few years ago and it was a trainwreck of non defineable keys. F. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO has a new favorite as of 07:03 on Apr 21, 2018 |
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RTSes avoided it by going extinct as a genre.  Seriously though the attempts to make console RTSes have focused either on streamlined controls or stuff like voice commands. From what I've seen of it Halo Wars basically applies a FPS weapon selection wheel to unit commands and seems to work fluidly, while Tom Clancy's Endwar used voice commands that apparently worked okay. (There were promotional videos where they had trained a parrot to go "all tanks attack" and so on)
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Apr 21, 2018 07:25
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuFSv2bLa8 since we're talking about old music id like to submit eurobeat as one of the better things to come out of the 90's
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Kanine posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuFSv2bLa8 So there is a genre for this! I just assumed it was “motorsport music”.
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WebDog posted:Oh yeah. Bonus with lazy ports that left in controller graphics on the tutorials. Or remapping the shoulder buttons or triggers to awkward key positions. I put the blame for this mostly on Xinput. The same for using the Xbox buttons everywhere. Also Xbox Live multiplayer in PC games.
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Apr 21, 2018 13:38
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Horse Clocks posted:So there is a genre for this! I just assumed it was “motorsport music”. The only true motorsport music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWAPtwDkxw
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Apr 21, 2018 15:08
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Jerry Cotton posted:The only true motorsport music: Ooh, I loved to make ridiculous parodies of this dumb song back in 2007 with my classmates.
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gently caress it. I edited the whole thing: Nokia, Audi, Sony product placement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt-lxrKB4uM
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Apr 21, 2018 15:49
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Really sucks. Maybe RTS didn't get it in the same way. I hate it that RTSes don't all standardize leftmouse and rightmouse, or all let you user define it
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Lurking Haro posted:I put the blame for this mostly on Xinput. I'll take that over looking up the controls for a console version of a game then having to configure every button for every game like I did for games in the PS2 generation. Newer games just use Xbox controls at worst, and older games were usually made PC-first so it wasn't a problem. Japanese PC games from the early 2000s are a unique headache. I will agree that it's a vast improvement when the developer lets you choose what button icons you want, though.
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Tunicate posted:I hate it that RTSes don't all standardize leftmouse and rightmouse, or all let you user define it IS IT SELECT OR MOVE 
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Apr 21, 2018 20:19
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Humphreys posted:gently caress it. I edited the whole thing: Bomfunk MCs were such product whores that when I saw the Freestyler video I was convinced it was a Sony commercial.
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Apr 21, 2018 21:15
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Arrath posted:IS IT SELECT OR MOVE LMOUSE select, RMOUSE move. 
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Apr 22, 2018 03:49
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I still play the entire Half-Life series including the Gearbox expansions all the way through at least once a year. It's me. I'm the failed technology.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:I still play the entire Half-Life series including the Gearbox expansions all the way through at least once a year. It's me. I'm the failed technology. Please choose your method of execution, Mr. Wordsworth.
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Apr 22, 2018 18:31
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Arrath posted:IS IT SELECT OR MOVE I didn't even realize how angry this made me until you reminded me.
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Apr 23, 2018 19:14
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Neat image dump from Vintage Computer Fest. https://imgur.com/gallery/2lDzTgI
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:I still play the entire Half-Life series including the Gearbox expansions all the way through at least once a year. It's me. I'm the failed technology. is it weird that I've never actually managed to beat Half-Life? I always just played multiplayer as a kid, and when I actually sat down and tried to beat it a few years back I ended up at a part where I'm leading a Barney around and I just had no loving clue where to go. Same with HL2, I made a serious attempt at beating it on 360 and got as far as the airboat level and just got completely lost/stuck. (I might be able to dig up what level I was on if Steam Cloud stored my save but, not sure)
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Apr 23, 2018 22:25
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GreenNight posted:Neat image dump from Vintage Computer Fest. Nice to see all the GEOS image. GEOS on my C64 is where I made my first custom icons. 
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:is it weird that I've never actually managed to beat Half-Life? I always just played multiplayer as a kid, and when I actually sat down and tried to beat it a few years back I ended up at a part where I'm leading a Barney around and I just had no loving clue where to go. Same with HL2, I made a serious attempt at beating it on 360 and got as far as the airboat level and just got completely lost/stuck. I guess FPS games with no map or objective markers are obsolete
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Armacham posted:I guess FPS games with no map or objective markers are obsolete i mean it can work but the level design has to be really, really good to make it happen. in HL1 i was literally stuck in a cluster of rooms with no apparent exit and nothing triggering a cutscene or anything (I think there was supposed to be a ladder in a certain spot and it wasn't there for some reason?). in HL2 I ended up in a big open area with... no apparent exit except the place I came in from. meanwhile, Quake 1 has no map or objective markers, and I can navigate that game just fine because it's made by loving level design wizards who knew to put landmarks in places and have a reasonably obvious "flow" to their levels and executed that basically perfectly throughout the entire game
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I definitely got lost a few times playing the first half-life again recently. I don't remember having that problem with Half-Life 2, which I thought had great level design, although I think I might remember the part you are actually talking about. I think you had to launch off a ramp to get to a new area.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:meanwhile, Quake 1 has no map or objective markers, and I can navigate that game just fine because it's made by loving level design wizards who knew to put landmarks in places and have a reasonably obvious "flow" to their levels and executed that basically perfectly throughout the entire game This is the only time I've ever heard anyone describe Quake as having good level design. It's typical lovely mid-90s FPS design - endlessly turning each corner just have have a bunch of enemies appear out of hidden cupboards.
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GreenNight posted:Neat image dump from Vintage Computer Fest. What the hell is that Snake Plissken cartridge?
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