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Adaptabullshit posted:That angle was great booking. Oh yeah. It was the lead up to an 8 man against the West Texas rednecks.
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Their song 'rap is crap' actually had some decent circulation in the south despite being a joke. Not gonna lie I thought it was catchy as hell.
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If you want a heel faction to play in historical WCW territories I can't think of a better heel than Barry Windham, who old WCW/NWA fans definitely do not love to death.
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ColeM posted:Their song 'rap is crap' actually had some decent circulation in the south despite being a joke. Not gonna lie I thought it was catchy as hell. WCW ignored/poo poo on its core audience a lot. How many times was the Nature Boy beat/humiliated in Charlotte?
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Randaconda posted:WCW ignored/poo poo on its core audience a lot. How many times was the Nature Boy beat/humiliated in Charlotte?
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I think it's important to remember that the No Limit Soldiers were also just really annoying, and theres no way you can be dumb enough to fill a ring with dudes shouting "HOOTIE HOO" over and over again and expect people to like them, but WCW managed to be that stupid
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ColeM posted:Their song 'rap is crap' actually had some decent circulation in the south despite being a joke. Not gonna lie I thought it was catchy as hell. at the time, Nashville was churning out some real computer generated garbage sp it really hit the sweet spot in station programming.
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Wise Fwom Yo Gwave posted:All I remember of that period is “Crush Em” so I’m guessing that’s what you’re talking about? They made Goldberg use this as his theme music
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1st AD posted:They made Goldberg use this as his theme music Hey it was the only good song Megadeth ever made, was a nice change of pace to see Da Man Crush Em, Berg.
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MassRafTer posted:Hey it was the only good song Megadeth ever made, was a nice change of pace to see Da Man Crush Em, Berg. That's heresy and you know it. Must feel clean. Must post more.glorious Megadeth rear end kicking metal  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d4ui9q7eDM
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Funkchop posted:I think it's important to remember that the No Limit Soldiers were also just really annoying, and theres no way you can be dumb enough to fill a ring with dudes shouting "HOOTIE HOO" over and over again and expect people to like them, but WCW managed to be that stupid
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1st AD posted:They made Goldberg use this as his theme music Right around the same time as it served as the theme for the UFC game on the Dreamcast.
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Funkchop posted:I think it's important to remember that the No Limit Soldiers were also just really annoying, and theres no way you can be dumb enough to fill a ring with dudes shouting "HOOTIE HOO" over and over again and expect people to like them, but WCW managed to be that stupid Yeah people were turning on them even in the one segment before the West Texas Rednecks showed up. They were DOA.
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It's weird how even though he was supposed to be a really popular rapper in the 90s with his own giant record company and all that poo poo, I've never heard of Master P outside of his WCW stint and that song he did for the South Park soundtrack album in 1998. These days I'd chalk that up to the fact I'm old and out of touch, but back in the mid to late 90s I used to watch hours of MTV pretty much every day and had several friends who were really into rap so I was familiar with the big names, but I don't remember anyone ever mentioning Master P even in passing. Maybe he just wasn't that well known in Europe?
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He had two #1 albums on the Hot 100 albums, one #2 and a few singles top 25 singles on the Hot singles chart all in 97-99 He's also helped to get Southern hip-hop in the mainstream by having a bunch of hits
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Master P is in kind of a weird place: he's had gold and platinum albums, but never a Top 10 single. He just didn't break out of hip-hop fandom into the mainstream like some others. Instead, he was one of the first guys to realize that you make more money as a "mogul" than as just a recording artist, and that's why he's still one of the richest rappers alive. He owned No Limit, which (via house firm Pen & Pixel) pioneered that style of album cover with a bunch of graphics crudely stacked on top of each other, that still shows up in memes people make with Blingee. He owns a zillion other businesses, but for the most part, he didn't build them by slapping his personal brand on everything like Jay-Z did with Rocawear. So for all of these reasons, you don't have to be out-of-touch to think "Oh yeah, Master P, that guy. He did 'Make Em Say Uhhh,' and what else? He seems important but Idunno." Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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Doc Morbid posted:It's weird how even though he was supposed to be a really popular rapper in the 90s with his own giant record company and all that poo poo, I've never heard of Master P outside of his WCW stint and that song he did for the South Park soundtrack album in 1998. We gonna ride tonight My little homey Kenny died tonight
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Halloween Jack posted:Master P is in kind of a weird place: he's had gold and platinum albums, but never a Top 10 single. He just didn't break out of hip-hop fandom into the mainstream like some others. Instead, he was one of the first guys to realize that you make more money as a "mogul" than as just a recording artist, and that's why he's still one of the richest rappers alive. He owned No Limit, which (via house firm Pen & Pixel) pioneered that style of album cover with a bunch of graphics crudely stacked on top of each other, that still shows up in memes people make with Blingee. His son is Lil Romeo.
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I looked up some of his stuff and it seems he just wasn't popular in Europe, none of his best-known songs or albums charted over here. Certainly not in my remote neck of the woods. 
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RZApublican posted:I don't have The Death of WCW on hand but if unless I'm mistaken they signed Swoll, a guy specifically brought in for Master P's No Limit Soldiers stable, to a contract of $350,000 with a $50,000 signing bonus. From what I can find he wrestled six matches and was paid $30,890.41 before being released. I don't think Master P drew enough for him and the rest of the No Limit Soldiers. Swoll is Master P's cousin. That is literally why they signed him. A favour for Master P because WCW thought they could get that hiphop audience by having him there.
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WCW was also under the impression he had NJPW experience.
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MassRafTer posted:WCW was also under the impression he had NJPW experience. cagematch records says that he had two matches in New Japan in 1991. I guess that is a kind of experience.
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worked wonders for Big Daddy Yum Yum
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Doc Morbid posted:I looked up some of his stuff and it seems he just wasn't popular in Europe, none of his best-known songs or albums charted over here. Certainly not in my remote neck of the woods. My elder brother was huge into hip hop at that time and even then Master P was considered wack rapper amongst the finnish scene. I remember reading his THE SOURCE -magazines as a kid and those ragged on Master P, hard. Asteroid Alert fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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Dude owned a platinum tank. Make em say unhhhh is one of the greatest videos ever made.
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Cash Money was my preferred southern rap label https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfYFnQaGXEI
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The Master P rap snacks are one of the better flavors of the bunch
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MrBling posted:cagematch records says that he had two matches in New Japan in 1991. I guess that is a kind of experience. They're both "different style fights," though, which means he probably did a lot of sloppy punching and not a lot of wrestling. Still, I guess all you need to put on your resume is "worked a match with Shinya Hashimoto"
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So we're in 2000 and I'm wondering...where is everybody? How many of WCW's workers were healthy scratches so the Natural Born Thrillers could be 1/2 of the show? I'm usually the last guy to rail against a youth movement but holy poo poo the NBT is proof of the collective failure of the power plant.
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ChrisBTY posted:So we're in 2000 and I'm wondering...where is everybody? Sid and DDP are the only notable healthy scratches. OJ MIST 2 THE DICK fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Apr 25, 2018 |
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RZApublican posted:I don't have The Death of WCW on hand but if unless I'm mistaken they signed Swoll, a guy specifically brought in for Master P's No Limit Soldiers stable, to a contract of $350,000 with a $50,000 signing bonus. From what I can find he wrestled six matches and was paid $30,890.41 before being released. I don't think Master P drew enough for him and the rest of the No Limit Soldiers. The thing is, it's easy to list all these expenses and be like THIS IS WHY WCW FAILED but the fact is that ticket sales and buyrates covered it. Was Hogan's salary insane? Yeah but they made a profit. The real reason wcw died is people stopped going to shows and buying ppvs which was caused not by how much they spent on poo poo but by what they put on TV (so ok maybe the Hogan contract contributed to this, but not because of the monetary price).
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corn in the bible posted:The thing is, it's easy to list all these expenses and be like THIS IS WHY WCW FAILED but the fact is that ticket sales and buyrates covered it. Was Hogan's salary insane? Yeah but they made a profit. The real reason wcw died is people stopped going to shows and buying ppvs which was caused not by how much they spent on poo poo but by what they put on TV (so ok maybe the Hogan contract contributed to this, but not because of the monetary price). My last point still stands, though. Master P and the No Limit Soldiers weren't over and didn't draw the money to justify hiring them. Having them on Nitro would be a zero increase in ticket sales at best. Constantly similar things like paying Kiss to be on Nitro and being contractually obligated to put the Kiss Demon in matches as a result is wasting money that won't be covered when things went downhill to the point that the big stars either stop drawing or are no longer on TV. zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Apr 25, 2018 |
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what really killed them was AOL buying Time Warner and actually looking at their financials
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RZApublican posted:My last point still stands, though. Master P and the No Limit Soldiers weren't over and didn't draw the money to justify hiring them. Having them on Nitro would be a zero increase in ticket sales at best. Constantly similar things like paying Kiss to be on Nitro and being contractually obligated to put the Kiss Demon in matches as a result is wasting money that won't be covered when things went downhill to the point that the big stars either stop drawing or are no longer on TV. Yeah, WCW ultimately was killed because AOL looked at their financials and were all WTF. That's why I say their downfall started back in the Crockett days, because lovely spending was never really ever reigned in except for maybe the first year or two of Bischoff being boss.
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RZApublican posted:My last point still stands, though. Master P and the No Limit Soldiers weren't over and didn't draw the money to justify hiring them. Having them on Nitro would be a zero increase in ticket sales at best. Constantly similar things like paying Kiss to be on Nitro and being contractually obligated to put the Kiss Demon in matches as a result is wasting money that won't be covered when things went downhill to the point that the big stars either stop drawing or are no longer on TV. I saw ICP wrestle at a WCW house show.
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