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Raged posted:Can someone repost the awesome Urbie "fortune hunters" logo I was gonna roll this, bit I have an even worse idea for my first playthrough... Edit- I just need a terrible name referencing Quokkas
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Come watch me get wrECKed by the HBS undefeated champion this Saturday at 3PM PDT! https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eck-streaming-schedule-launch-week.1091108/ I'm feel so horribly unprepared. Should be fun!
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Apr 24, 2018 09:27
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I'm working late on Friday so I can take a half day off tomorrow in lieu, and if I'm taking a half day it seems pointless not to take the whole day. I'm definitely not doing that just to play a computer game though. I'm an adult with responsibilities and don't do that kind of thing any more.
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Apr 24, 2018 09:35
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I have been enjoying watching the campaign play through on 'Lewis and Ben Save the World'. Lewis is the one actually playing and is basically completely new to the game, but is mostly not an idiot and plays a lot of strategy games. Ben is a gigantic Battletech nerd who apparently binged the campaign and completed in in under two days with 30+ hours in game. He provides lore exposition and gameplay advise. It is a pretty good combination: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9dA7CylC80
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Apr 24, 2018 10:04
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I watched the Waypoint intro stream last night. I'm hoping they do more Battletech stuff with Austin and Rob. Austin has at least a passing knowledge of the lore, but Rob apparently Knows His poo poo and is great for looking back at the lore from a modern, critical perspective. And they get a lot of grognards upset by using words like "problematic", which is a plus in my book.
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Drone posted:I watched the Waypoint intro stream last night. I'm hoping they do more Battletech stuff with Austin and Rob. Austin has at least a passing knowledge of the lore, but Rob apparently Knows His poo poo and is great for looking back at the lore from a modern, critical perspective. "How would you describe the Capellan Confederation?" "Problematic." lmao In my own headcanon, HBS will carry the timeline forward from the war of 3039 as if the Clans were never a thing. But I think they would hold off on that since a bunch of fans would be super passed off.
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Apr 24, 2018 10:38
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Finster Dexter posted:"How would you describe the Capellan Confederation?" I've said it before, but the fact that MW5, HBS BTech, and the updated BT box set are all going to be set in 3025 or later has me legitimately going  a bit. The people running development of these games aren't dumb and know that people who played in the 90s are going to be very attached to Cool Clan Designs and Their Sick rear end Mad Cats and whatnot, but there is a conscious effort being made across three different products to go back to the time prior to the Fourth Succession War and the advancement of any of the metaplot from the 80s and 90s. And regardless of me bumbling into white savior tropes and whatnot, I bumbled into it because I was trying to make the point that the previous metaplot had a really bad case of Space Is For White Guys and had bad problems with representation and the piling on of a whole goddamn mess of problematic elements (and people somehow still not getting the message that the Jade Falcons and Smoke Jaguars are THE BAD GUYS even with all the poo poo they do because of wider American cultural memetics doesn't help either).The summary of those  is that it really would not surprise me at all if Weisman & co. want to perform a reboot of the BTech timeline, both to address a lot of the problems and cruft that built up since the 80s and also to smooth out some of the wilder problems that Star League and Clan tech had rules-wise. We're already seeing some of this in action in HBS BTech with the various changes to 2750 Lostech. Especially since The Star Wars™ did so in this decade as well, with so far a generally successful result, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they feel the time is ripe, after so long out in the woods, to perform a reboot of their own.
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Apr 24, 2018 11:01
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I think Jordan has stated he won't be retconning huge sections of the lore, because just because he wrote it doesn't mean he has the right to re-write it. He specifically stated Lucas altering the Star Wars movies as an example of why it goes wrong.
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I think probably the more likely scenario isn't a reboot so much as it is applying liberal use of tactical retconning to... smooth out the rougher points of the old canon.
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Apr 24, 2018 11:07
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Looks like review embargo has lifted. Eurogamer Recommended. EDIT: RPS - "Boring". Junkenstein fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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Apr 24, 2018 11:12
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Junkenstein posted:EDIT: RPS - "Boring". They call it "Mehwarrior" in the tagline. https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/04/24/battletech-review-pc/ He can't get past the pacing of animations, it seems like.
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Apr 24, 2018 11:18
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Drone posted:They call it "Mehwarrior" in the tagline. The animations are definitely stilted and a bit janky, with odd delays that break the flow of MAXIMUM FIREPOWER  On the other hand the game is hella cool.
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Apr 24, 2018 11:22
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PC Gamer gave it 85/100, haven't seen other major reviews yet besides these three.
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Apr 24, 2018 11:24
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He really sounds like that guy who gave Brigade E5 (a Jagged Alliance TBT clone) a low score not for it's many legit issues, but because 'I need to tell me soldiers what to do? This is bullshit'. I'm sure XCOM would have melted his brain.
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Apr 24, 2018 11:26
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The more I see of this the more excited I get. If it runs on my laptop decently I might be losing a lot of time.
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Apr 24, 2018 11:27
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Paingod556 posted:He really sounds like that guy who gave Brigade E5 (a Jagged Alliance TBT clone) a low score not for it's many legit issues, but because 'I need to tell me soldiers what to do? This is bullshit'. RPS aren't very interested in anything that isn't a quirky indie title these days.
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Apr 24, 2018 11:34
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Paingod556 posted:He really sounds like that guy who gave Brigade E5 (a Jagged Alliance TBT clone) a low score not for it's many legit issues, but because 'I need to tell me soldiers what to do? This is bullshit'. I'm pretty sure Alec Meer is a huge XCOM fan. He's written about it extensively (and mostly positively) across many iterations of the game. Edit: Just checked, he cites it (the original) as his favorite game of all time. Is there a reason we need to do this for a reviewers/sites who dare say something negative about a game we're looking forward to? Surely Steam/Gamfaqs/Reddit has it covered already. Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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Apr 24, 2018 11:35
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Gravy Jones posted:I'm pretty sure Alec Meer is a huge XCOM fan. He's written about it extensively (and mostly positively) across many iterations of the game. "Ah but you see he doesn't like the thing I like therefore he's an idiot doo-doo head who shouldn't be allowed to review games. He is intellectually inferior to I, a good game liker." 
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Aramoro posted:"Ah but you see he doesn't like the thing I like therefore he's an idiot doo-doo head who shouldn't be allowed to review games. He is intellectually inferior to I, a good game liker." hell, same op
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Apr 24, 2018 11:39
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Gravy Jones posted:I'm pretty sure Alec Meer is a huge XCOM fan. He's written about it extensively (and mostly positively) across many iterations of the game. I meant the other, actual idiot reviewer (EDIT- who covered Brigade E5), who didn't seem to understand what type of game he was playing. Like playing a realistic driving game and asking why you can't do sick aerial tricks or use headlight-mounted missiles. Paingod556 fucked around with this message at 12:06 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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Apr 24, 2018 11:41
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Only a few hours now.
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Apr 24, 2018 11:41
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Oh they can like anything. It doesn’t have to be Indy but it does have to be hip. ‘Tweeness’ is also highly valued. They once got mad at mafia 2’s story because people were being rude to women and minorities. In a game where you’re in the mafia murdering people. Usually for no good reason.
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Regarde Aduck posted:‘Tweeness’ is also highly valued. post/avatar combo
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Paingod556 posted:I meant the other, actual idiot reviewer, who didn't seem to understand what type of game he was playing. Like playing a realistic driving game and asking why you can't do sick aerial tricks or use headlight-mounted missiles. Which one? The other two reviews posted are both quite favourable and both compare it to XCOM extensively (which it sounds like both reviewers are fans of and survived the experience of playing without their brains being melted).
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Apr 24, 2018 11:50
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(RPS dude) I can certainly understand mech outfitting being kind of daunting, I've only played MW3 and felt a bit lost about mechs and weapons until I really started paying attention to streamers and looking poo poo up. And it's true that the game seems to freeze up sometimes during combat, when mechs get blasted usually, which is... pretty minor, really. But tiny graphical glitches like shooting through terrain? Come on. loving XCOM does that all the time, it's fine. And like he said, the UI never lies anyway. Coucho Marx fucked around with this message at 12:02 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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Apr 24, 2018 11:55
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quote this if you took off work for the next week
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I think Beaglerush emphatically stating that people should buy the game has more influence than RPS. Feels weird to say that, but that's the world we live in now. Also, I am glad the clans are not in any of the games. I friggin hated all the broken crap in the TT clans. It's going to take a ton of reworking to make them work the expansion/ sequel. 5 hours till we get to fly my fellow bird warriors!!!!
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Gyshall posted:quote this if you took off work for the next week Technically it's a public holiday, and an extra day to do some stuff around the house with contractors. Who have since called and asked to reschedule to another day. 
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Coucho Marx posted:(RPS dude) I can certainly understand mech outfitting being kind of daunting, I've only played MW3 and felt a bit lost about mechs and weapons until I really started paying attention to streamers and looking poo poo up. And it's true that the game seems to freeze up sometimes during combat, when mechs get blasted usually, which is... pretty minor, really. I think that complaint has some merit because it makes it hard to see where you will have cover from. Like I move up so that if someone comes round my flank the rocks will be in the way, whoops actually it's just a clear shot. Xcom doesn't really do that because you know the cover and directions when you move. In terms of animations I would bet that one of the first mods that comes out, if it's possible will be to cut down the length of the animations. Like I'm fully on board with the game as it is, but during a mission most of the time elapsed will just be waiting for animations to finish. I don't mind but it doesn't means it's not a valid criticism of the game.
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I stopped reading RPS ages ago because they're so stuck up their own arses the world is varying shades of brown. I recommend the same approach.
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Gyshall posted:quote this if you took off work for the next week I took the week off because the 25th and the 1st of May is a public holiday here and I could get two whole weeks with eight days of PTO. Battletech coming out this week is just icing on the cake 
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WMain00 posted:I stopped reading RPS ages ago because they're so stuck up their own arses the world is varying shades of brown. They manage to fish up the odd interesting game I wouldn't otherwise know about and their site is less obnoxious then other game sites. But they do tend to occupy their own little bubble.
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BattleTech has always had a certain deliberate pace and I would expect some reviewers to bounce off of it heavily. A few bits of the UI not providing quite as much information as they probably should isn't going to help, either. Meanwhile I don't care because I've learned a couple early-mid-game spoilers and now I'm reasonably certain this game has been Made For Me, Specifically. Not even gonna mention it under tags but good lord if isildur & co. wanted to make me happy that is the exact, precise way you do it.
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SpaceDrake posted:I've said it before, but the fact that MW5, HBS BTech, and the updated BT box set are all going to be set in 3025 or later has me legitimately going 3025 has been the starting era of the game for as long as there's been a game. Less tech, less of everything plot related to follow, and a lot more people on board because most Battletech fans love the plot of the universe up to the point they were introduced to it and then proceed to hate everything afterward for invariably failing to meet their expectations. Battletech's a universe with thousands of pages of material written by dozens of authors over three decades, and the when and how (and if) of someone's interaction will color their interpretation. That's why plenty of people know that the Clans are by and large bad guys, and they also don't care because in so many ways the universe is (to borrow Rob's term) young adult fare. Passing moral judgement over that feels about as sensible to me as, say, thinking that someone with a Decepticon sticker on their car genuinely intends to harm me.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:They manage to fish up the odd interesting game I wouldn't otherwise know about and their site is less obnoxious then other game sites. But they do tend to occupy their own little bubble. Kind of. Nowadays I'd describe them as something akin to hipsters. They fill a niche and sometimes that is usual for discovering new stuff, but I found myself increasingly just not reading their website until eventually I stopped. That and pretty much all of their good writers have long since left the building for pastors new.
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So, I watched a little bit of a stream last night but it was all dialogue trees and stuff. How slow is the combat this game, in terms of animations? That’s my biggest pet peeve with turn based games in general and is usually what keeps me from playing them for very long. To me, XCOM is about the perfect balance between guys zipping everywhere at hyperspeed or slowly plodding from one piece of cover to the next.
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God forbid people read a review and discuss the validity of the arguments being made instead of dismissing the whole site in a flurry of logical fallacy. The reviewer actively indicated how much he wanted to like it, how the game should have been exactly what he likes to play, and how hard it is to enjoy it because of what he thinks is poor pacing. That seems like a valid criticism to me.
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DeepThrobble posted:Passing moral judgement over that feels about as sensible to me as, say, thinking that someone with a Decepticon sticker on their car genuinely intends to harm me. Don't be silly. It's the car itself that you have to worry about in that scenario.
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bongwizzard posted:To me, XCOM is about the perfect balance between guys zipping everywhere at hyperspeed or slowly plodding from one piece of cover to the next. The indication is that the animations are too slow for many people. But honestly what can you expect from a game where you are piloting slow, plodding mechs? Gundam this ain't, and Battletech's design philosophy when it comes to its stompy robits is that they move with plodding deliberation.
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bongwizzard posted:So, I watched a little bit of a stream last night but it was all dialogue trees and stuff. How slow is the combat this game, in terms of animations? That’s my biggest pet peeve with turn based games in general and is usually what keeps me from playing them for very long. Probaly best to check a couple of gameplay videos on youtube to see for yourself. I'd say it definitely leans more towards the slow plodding than XCOM, but I'm not sure how much slower it really is or how much it just feels slower due to the way 40 tonnes of lumbering metal is animated as opposed to special forces and skittish aliens, which is how it should feel. The UI for movement and combat looks pretty good and snappy though, possibly a bit less fiddly than XCOM.
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