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Pablo Nergigante posted:The localization team wasn't watching enough Game Center CX
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I wanted to puke by the time I hit the last mouse maze in the 7th palace. I was super determined to finally do an entire palace in a single in-game day and I just found the mouse parts to be boring and repetitive. And as fun as the last fights in the palace were, holy poo poo I just wanted to get out of there! I didn't even know what the gimmick was in the 5th palace. I just killed everything. I stopped listening to what everyone had to say because I was bored. 6th palace best palace
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Apr 16, 2018 18:45
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Hunt11 posted:You can get by if you just pay attention to the red text and even if you are not sure you can just beat up both possible options and not suffer anything besides resource drain. No dude, the problem is that there's five options and taking the red text literally means you disqualify the correct one immediately. "You can get by if you ignore the part where the game just loving lies to you, or skip the puzzle entirely" is a bad reason to say the game's not being lovely.
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Apr 16, 2018 18:46
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Arist posted:No dude, the problem is that there's five options and taking the red text literally means you disqualify the correct one immediately. We clearly have very different experiences with that area then as I don't recall having nearly as much of an issue with it. Edit: Just watched a quick run-through to confirm my suspicions. Your target is always in the new area that you have just unlocked. Hunt11 fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Apr 16, 2018 |
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Apr 16, 2018 18:49
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Spoilers for Late October/November The Casino oozes style, I love it so much already. Secondly, is Akechi as ridiculously broken as he seems? Heavy Almighty damage to all enemies for 30hp? That's crazy, I've max affinity with Ann/Makoto/Yusuke/Ryuji and they've got nothing like that.
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Apr 17, 2018 00:24
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Physical damage skills are comparatively more costly than SP skills because of the abundance in HP recovery items/skills, correct? I still feel a little uneasy using a skill that costs Joker a fourth of his HP due to the horrible "dead leader=you lose" mechanic. Yes, I know there are passives that reduce skill costs. 
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Apr 17, 2018 00:33
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Azran posted:Physical damage skills are comparatively more costly than SP skills because of the abundance in HP recovery items/skills, correct? I still feel a little uneasy using a skill that costs Joker a fourth of his HP due to the horrible "dead leader=you lose" mechanic. I pretty much never use the physical skills at all myself. Inever had a battle that would have ended faster by using one that wouldn't have then cost me more in recovery.
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Apr 17, 2018 01:14
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I ended up moving to mostly physical skills by the end of the game, except for hitting weaknesses. It just felt like Phys/Phys/Phys/Mediarahan worked well enough.
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Apr 17, 2018 01:23
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i really like the physical skills cost health thing, means you can spec a regen build with huge physical hits and its diff from just being a mage
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Apr 17, 2018 01:23
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Natural 20 posted:Spoilers for Late October/November The most broken skill he has is buried much deeper in his skill tree. The real damage dealers will be able to outpace him damage wise as they can stack amps, boosts and charge/concentrate to do the type of damage you will need for the endgame. Edit: I always prefer physical skills as you can just spam them as much as you want and it just means you have to heal slightly more often then usual. That and the best non-dlc skill is a physical skill.
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Apr 17, 2018 01:43
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IcePhoenix posted:same "here's a puzzle now do it again now do it again now do it again etc" problem that a lot of palaces have. It also felt incredibly long compared to the other palaces. At least it's somewhat saved by having probably my favorite track from the whole game. I think the pacing/structure helped it a lot, since you feel like you're making regular progress each time you finish a section and a new save room opens up. It's also what makes the sixth palace more bearable (that and forcing you to take a break). Natural 20 posted:Spoilers for Late October/November Megidola(on) (which costs SP, not HP) is actually less efficient than the equivalent elemental spells (as a reference, Maragion costs 16 SP and Maragidyne costs 24). The advantage is that it can't be resisted, but it also means it can never hit a weakness, limiting his ability to get One Mores.
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Apr 17, 2018 01:49
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I just want to mention how much of a travesty it is that there's no Digital Devil Saga costume DLC so we never got to rock out to this song in-game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCuOjfyUHnA
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Apr 17, 2018 17:31
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Hey is there some way I can get more EXP faster? I know you can get more cash using a fortune reading, but I'm trying to grind out the compendium on hard and I'm sitting near endgame not even having cleared level 60, so I don't know if there's a way to get to the higher levels easier or if I'm just gonna have to grind for a truly insane amount of money to fuse all those big personas.
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Apr 18, 2018 03:11
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So.....just beat the final boss. All I can say, is that when it came to the cinematic finale I was wondering "how exactly are we going to beat this thing?" The answer?  Holy gently caress.
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Apr 18, 2018 05:40
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TwoPair posted:Hey is there some way I can get more EXP faster? I know you can get more cash using a fortune reading, but I'm trying to grind out the compendium on hard and I'm sitting near endgame not even having cleared level 60, so I don't know if there's a way to get to the higher levels easier or if I'm just gonna have to grind for a truly insane amount of money to fuse all those big personas. Go to Mementos on Flu Season days (November 13/14 and December 8/9) and idle until the reaper comes for you. When he does, if he has the despair ailment at the start of the fight just slam rush mode until he kills himself. If he doesn't, flee combat and attack him again until he has despair. Then slam rush mode until he kills himself. Staggering amounts of EXP for very little effort
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Apr 18, 2018 05:52
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I do not regret attempting the harem. That was absolutely worth it.
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Apr 18, 2018 06:26
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TwoPair posted:Hey is there some way I can get more EXP faster? I know you can get more cash using a fortune reading, but I'm trying to grind out the compendium on hard and I'm sitting near endgame not even having cleared level 60, so I don't know if there's a way to get to the higher levels easier or if I'm just gonna have to grind for a truly insane amount of money to fuse all those big personas. Just before the final boss there is a room with 2 spawns that give a poo poo load of XP which you can keep killing and resetting. I think i got up to level 82ish then crafted everything with the 4 million yen i had saved up. Keep in mind there is one you can only craft in new game plus so you'll want a couple mil to craft that if you are planning on doing it at low level.
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Apr 18, 2018 06:43
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You could save money by keeping the required personas in your lineup, correct? Or do you lose them in NG+?
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Apr 18, 2018 10:52
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TwoPair posted:Hey is there some way I can get more EXP faster? I know you can get more cash using a fortune reading, but I'm trying to grind out the compendium on hard and I'm sitting near endgame not even having cleared level 60, so I don't know if there's a way to get to the higher levels easier or if I'm just gonna have to grind for a truly insane amount of money to fuse all those big personas. Depends how near endgame you are. The Reaper is the best way to get EXP quickly, but if it's not a flu day you have to deal with him the old fashioned way. But generally it's just easier to do all the big fusing in NG+ since you save a lot of money not needing to go to stat boost places; the only big expenditures you're doing then are Fortune/Temperance. Azran posted:You could save money by keeping the required personas in your lineup, correct? Or do you lose them in NG+? You start a NG+ with a fresh lineup (so, just Arsene), but you can re-summon anything you've saved in the Compendium.
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Apr 18, 2018 10:59
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Good Lord Fisher! posted:Go to Mementos on Flu Season days (November 13/14 and December 8/9) and idle until the reaper comes for you. When he does, if he has the despair ailment at the start of the fight just slam rush mode until he kills himself. If he doesn't, flee combat and attack him again until he has despair. Then slam rush mode until he kills himself. Staggering amounts of EXP for very little effort It also helps if you have the Star Confidant leveled enough to get the special escape ability, because then you let the Reaper ambush you, and if he doesn't have despair, you can 100% escape, as opposed to having to wait to do so otherwise.
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Apr 18, 2018 11:29
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Shinjobi posted:So.....just beat the final boss. All I can say, is that when it came to the cinematic finale I was wondering "how exactly are we going to beat this thing?" The ending really is something special.
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Apr 18, 2018 13:04
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Holy poo poo I love Ariadne so much. "Okay so I can't figure out the boss's weakness." "Good Nat, is the boss immune to physical?" "No?" "I CAST FIST"
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I was considering trying to get all the trophies, but filling out the compendium was cool for all the dungeons where you can recruit nearly every demon, but in the endgame where it costs you a million dollars to resummon a level 90 demon you need for a group fusion that requires eight demons, gently caress that. If there were a more reliable way to cash grind, I'd maybe get back on board. It's also frustrating that you absolutely cannot use Yoshitsune against the secret boss unless you put him into your compendium after maxing Morgana's S-Link and then pulling him out in the next playthrough. I did my Merciless run without carrying anything over so I have to win the fight the very very very slow way.
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Apr 19, 2018 00:05
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This is from a week ago but I think a lot of the palaces wouldn’t have felt so long if the game mechanics didn’t incentivize you to do them all in one day. The game ends up being weeks of plot and stat building and whatever and then you spend 1 day grinding through this thing for 5 hours of gameplay. Even the best dungeon is going to feel tired after that long with no diversion. It barely didn’t feel overboard for palace 3, but my god palace 7 overstayed its welcome by multiple hours. The weird thing is the way palace 2 has a big scene around getting past a blocker which also forces you to split it up a bit instead of slogging through it in one day. They really play up that whole scene and you think it’s going to be a thing in future palaces, and then it doesn’t happen at all other than a completely random wall in palace 6 which you get past by...having sae nijima notice you exist and that’s it. That thing really felt like they cut some planned content/story around it, it’s very odd and out of place
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Digirat posted:That thing really felt like they cut some planned content/story around it, it’s very odd and out of place
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Natural 20 posted:Spoilers for Late October/November He's physically oriented in growth so his Almighty spells will do less than Ann's Concentration + Heavy/Severe fire or Ryuji's Charge/Physical. Yusuke's kinda bad because he focuses on single-target baton pass and multihit attacks... Neither of which are any good in boss fights. You can have Joker Down Shot a boss but you'll still do less damage than if you just had him whale on it normally. Makoto's also just not a damage dealer. Her thing is having a huge mana and HP total compared to anyone else. Haru's really good for damage once you stack gun passives, though. Fhqwhgads posted:I ended up moving to mostly physical skills by the end of the game, except for hitting weaknesses. It just felt like Phys/Phys/Phys/Mediarahan worked well enough. Physical skills outscale magic by the end of the game, so that makes sense. Coughing Hobo posted:I just want to mention how much of a travesty it is that there's no Digital Devil Saga costume DLC so we never got to rock out to this song in-game. It's super sad that the P3 costume has Mass Destruction instead of Wiping All Out. RazzleDazzleHour posted:I was considering trying to get all the trophies, but filling out the compendium was cool for all the dungeons where you can recruit nearly every demon, but in the endgame where it costs you a million dollars to resummon a level 90 demon you need for a group fusion that requires eight demons, gently caress that. If there were a more reliable way to cash grind, I'd maybe get back on board. It's also frustrating that you absolutely cannot use Yoshitsune against the secret boss unless you put him into your compendium after maxing Morgana's S-Link and then pulling him out in the next playthrough. I did my Merciless run without carrying anything over so I have to win the fight the very very very slow way. Just drop the difficulty down to easy so you have an increased money multiplier than either use Sun's boosted hold up on endgame enemies or confuse minibosses into throwing cash with your highest luck persona equipped. "But I want to stay on Merciless" well then I don't think you really get to complain about optional completionist content being more tedious when you restrict yourself out of optimizing it! Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Apr 26, 2018 |
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Speaking of cut content, did you know that originally during the school trip you were going to visit a King Kamehameha statue. There are voice lines for the scene, anyway. In the final game, you.......don't do that. I need to finish going through those story lines so I can finish uploading them. I've already got over 200 lines in my backlog of files and the thought of uploading and transcribing 200 voice files to TCRF makes me sick to my stomach, so I might as well just finish the job before I figure out how the hell i'm going to reasonably finish doing this Also yes, 200+ unused voice files during the fourth palace/school trip chapter alone. That's more unused lines than I found in the entirety of Persona 4's main story. Thanks, Atlus. Basically: Digirat posted:That thing really felt like they cut some planned content/story around it, it’s very odd and out of place Endorph posted:persona 5.txt
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So basically.... P5C when?
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Apr 26, 2018 04:34
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Just think: Persona 5 could have been even longer.
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Apr 26, 2018 05:13
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Is there a good writeup of a general theory of what content was cut?
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Apr 26, 2018 05:15
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FractalSandwich posted:Just think: Persona 5 could have been even longer. The hours I wasted on the rat maze the first time around could've been spent on something better.
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Apr 26, 2018 08:32
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It was a long game but the end of it feels very rushed.
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Apr 26, 2018 09:14
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Ineffiable posted:Is there a good writeup of a general theory of what content was cut? I don't know of a total writeup, but I do know that Togo was supposed to be playable, and so following the game's pattern of one new character per castle, there might've been a whole other shogi-themed castle to go with her. On a completely unrelated note: Was literally anybody surprised by Akechi's heel turn?(not sure if we're still using tags for this game)
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TwoPair posted:I don't know of a total writeup, but I do know that Togo was supposed to be playable, and so following the game's pattern of one new character per castle, there might've been a whole other shogi-themed castle to go with her. Please keep doing it, I'm still playing along. Also yes! But I didn't catch his slipup.
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Apr 26, 2018 13:37
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TwoPair posted:I don't know of a total writeup, but I do know that Togo was supposed to be playable, and so following the game's pattern of one new character per castle, there might've been a whole other shogi-themed castle to go with her. I think whether or not you're surprised by it probably correlates well with if you caught his slip-up when you first meet him
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Apr 26, 2018 14:11
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TwoPair posted:I don't know of a total writeup, but I do know that Togo was supposed to be playable, and so following the game's pattern of one new character per castle, there might've been a whole other shogi-themed castle to go with her. I didn't catch the slip but I saw it coming pretty easily, the game did not do enough to make me think it could possibly be anyone else.
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Apr 26, 2018 14:13
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Yeah I mean it spends a lot of time strongly hinting that it's Morgana, and there's even that moment where Ryuji sees the news report about Joker being shot and does a fistpump. But as people have said already in the thread, the twist isn't that there's a traitor, or the reveal of who the traitor is, the twist is the Phantom Thieves have known all along that Akechi was going to betray them.
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irlZaphod posted:Yeah I mean it spends a lot of time strongly hinting that it's Morgana, and there's even that moment where Ryuji sees the news report about Joker being shot and does a fistpump. But as people have said already in the thread, the twist isn't that there's a traitor, or the reveal of who the traitor is, the twist is the Phantom Thieves have known all along that Akechi was going to betray them. I thought they were setting it up to be Makoto way more than Morgana
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Apr 26, 2018 15:11
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IcePhoenix posted:I thought they were setting it up to be Makoto way more than Morgana ) but that he'd turn evil when he got his memories back.
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Agreed. But then She joins your party and you realize she's actually awesome Edit: irlZaphod posted:I never really got the Makoto hints, I guess with Morgana, he wouldn't have been the traitor (since nobody would understand him So about that character If you pay attention to how often she's spying on you early on, it makes a lot of sense. Like she's literally everywhere and it's awesome.
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