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3 Action Economist: May 22, 2002; Educate. Agitate. Liberate.

Drone posted:

Rules are unchanged. The only real change are the new miniatures, and I assume some of the rulebooks/record sheets will have a new layout. Maps are probably the same?

I also don't remember if the old core set included Alpha Strike stuff, but this one apparently does alongside normal Classic Battletech rules.

If you wanted to start out on the game though and don't want to wait for the official box, you could always just buy some legal-grey-area sculpts based on MWO models, print out your own hex maps, and use the free Quick Start Rules PDF (or just pick up a copy of Total Warfare, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you're already familiar with the quickstart rules or have played MegaMek).

Is Alpha Strike where those pilot cards come from?

Sorry to ask here, but I couldn't find an active TG thread

# ? Apr 27, 2018 14:17

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# ? May 28, 2024 02:26

Drone: Aug 22, 2003; Incredible machine

Colonial Air Force posted:

Is Alpha Strike where those pilot cards come from?

Sorry to ask here, but I couldn't find an active TG thread

Yep.

The old Battletech TG thread dipped off into archives last fall, unfortunately.

Hoping to God that Jordan and CGL hash something out to adapt the HBS system over to tabletop as a new edition though. It totally feels like it's something HBS kept in mind when designing this game.

Drone fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Apr 27, 2018

# ? Apr 27, 2018 14:19

Soup du Journey: Mar 20, 2006; by FactsAreUseless

Xarbala posted:

Note that cheats like changing weapon files and shops .jsons to allow you to buy lostech also only applies to new campaigns too, but that's a slippery slope.

oh that's weird. so you can change prices on the fly but need a new campaign to mod availability?

# ? Apr 27, 2018 14:27

canepazzo: May 29, 2006

I feel like repairs and especially refits shouldn't take as long, or they should be on separate timers. I have this SHD I'm refitting for the last 4 financial periods, cause I keep having to repair 1-2 mechs every mission and bumping down the refit in the schedule. If I get a particularly tough mission, I have to fast forward for a month before I can take the next one, and the Shadowhawk falls further behind.

Is it just a case of git gud(er) ?

# ? Apr 27, 2018 14:30

Goa Tse-tung: Feb 11, 2008; ;3; Yams Fan

canepazzo posted:

I feel like repairs and especially refits shouldn't take as long, or they should be on separate timers. I have this SHD I'm refitting for the last 4 financial periods, cause I keep having to repair 1-2 mechs every mission and bumping down the refit in the schedule. If I get a particularly tough mission, I have to fast forward for a month before I can take the next one, and the Shadowhawk falls further behind.

Is it just a case of git gud(er) ?

you need max armor and play it slow ith guts 5 on your guys, you basically need a few missions that pay out cbills without any taking internal damage

# ? Apr 27, 2018 14:36

Flavius Aetass: Mar 30, 2011

I'm still not real sure how I should be leveling my mechwarriors. My default is that gunnery is the only tree that seems genuinely useful in all situations, but that's probably the wrong approach.

Does anyone have a rundown of what skills synergize with which types of mechs and/or weapons?

# ? Apr 27, 2018 14:57

sarr: Mar 24, 2008; Praise the Sun!

Is there a way to move mechs around in the mechbay? Right now it hurts my eyes to look at because of the gaps..

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:00

Dallan Invictus: Oct 11, 2007; The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes, look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.

Flipswitch posted:

Bloody Firestarters are savage, one just cooked one of my Locusts in one go.

Locusts die if literally anything looks at them funny but Firestarters are still my favourite lights and it's not even close. As long as you can keep your evasion high or stick to flanking mechs that are already engaged, all those flamethrowers can ruin a hostile's day (especially if that hostile went energy-heavy), make the rest of your lance's life a lot easier, and even help with racking up the pilot injuries for more efficient salvage.

Dallan Invictus fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Apr 27, 2018

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:01

Phi230: Feb 2, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Drone posted:

Yep.

The old Battletech TG thread dipped off into archives last fall, unfortunately.

Hoping to God that Jordan and CGL hash something out to adapt the HBS system over to tabletop as a new edition though. It totally feels like it's something HBS kept in mind when designing this game.

They should restart the lore from 3025 too

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:02

Hieronymous Alloy: Jan 30, 2009; Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!; Morbid Hound

Axetrain posted:

LRM40 (20/15/5) Centurion is pretty spectacular as a missile boat. Stacked with ++ weapons its keeping the enemy on their asses on top of doing incredible damage. Also Dragons make great front line mechs they are very durable with max armor and properly fitted make real nasty close in brawlers.

What's a good Dragon build? I just got my first one in the plot mission where you have all the allied turrets.

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:04

Drone: Aug 22, 2003; Incredible machine

Phi230 posted:

They should restart the lore from 3025 too

Make the Clans slightly less problematic (and dumb).

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:05

Hieronymous Alloy: Jan 30, 2009; Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!; Morbid Hound

sarr posted:

Is there a way to move mechs around in the mechbay? Right now it hurts my eyes to look at because of the gaps..

Yeah agreed that's a need

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:05

Zore: Sep 21, 2010; willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d�etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Flavius Belisarius posted:

I'm still not real sure how I should be leveling my mechwarriors. My default is that gunnery is the only tree that seems genuinely useful in all situations, but that's probably the wrong approach.

Does anyone have a rundown of what skills synergize with which types of mechs and/or weapons?

Tactics 2, good for a dedicated scout who runs around in a lighter mech than the rest of the crew or anyone in a heavy or Assault.

Piloting 2, extremely good for anyone piloting a mech with huge alpha struoe potential but not a lot of armor

Guts 1, the go to skill for anyone who is going to be piloting a mid-range tanky mech since it lets them shoot and get a defensive buff

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:05

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

LRM missile boats are for cowards.

Melee and machine guns are for heroes.

This is all.

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:05

Zore: Sep 21, 2010; willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d�etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

What's a good Dragon build? I just got my first one in the plot mission where you have all the allied turrets.

Heres my builds including a Dragon that have worked well for me so far. Though don't be like me and put the ammo with the guns, I just put it opposite to aesthetically balance the mech in the lab but its 100% mechanically a bad idea.

quote:

So I figured I'd show off some of my builds, both to help people who are new and to get feedback from some more experienced people.

First the builds that carried me in the early game

1) Shadowhawk

I switched between using it like this or with a Large Laser, another SRM6 and more armor. Both designs were workhorses for the early game, I don't think I ever had a Shadowhawk go down.

2) Hunchback

Basically vanilla, but with some added Jumpjets. Solid performer overall.

3) Centurion

Absolute MVP of the early game for me. It taught me how good a dedicated LRM unit is and it was the last Medium I was actively using before I managed to cobble together a full team of Heavies.

And now Mid-game (3-3.5skull missions)

1) Black Knight

My First Heavy and a mainstay on my team because of it. I made it a little more heat neutral and increased the DPS by dropping the large lasers for mediums.

2) Dragon

Not the greatest Heavy mech, but you can get a guaranteed one pretty early on. I use it as a spotter for the rest of the squad with its slightly above average movement, and it packs an okay punch.

3) Jagermech

Much like the Centurion, the new MVP of my lance. Its hilariously deadly and never even gets scratched in battle. A++ would always recommend an LRM boat

4) Thunderbolt

Easily the most deadly of my Heavies, I like this little dude quite a bit. Basically just use it like an upgraded Hunchback.

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:08

Saint Freak: Apr 16, 2007; Regretting is an insult to oneself; Buglord

Is the only way to filter stuff to turn everything else off? Like to see lasers I have to click everything except lasers?

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:08

RBA Starblade: Apr 28, 2008; Going Home.

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Ugh I'm at work and have a thing after and I can't stop thinking about refitting my mechs (more armor and specialize!) and my next mission.

Game's rough around the edges and owning new hard but Iove it.

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:17

Phi230: Feb 2, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Drone posted:

Make the Clans slightly less problematic (and dumb).

I feel like they can just redo everything the same, but modern and higher quality, up to like 3050. Then do something new

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:17

ulmont: Sep 15, 2010; IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

Just getting into this slowly. I assume that I'm not going to be able to pay back my debt, mechanically (and therefore not be allowed to leave the starting area) until I advance the plot?

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:19

Flavius Aetass: Mar 30, 2011

RBA Starblade posted:

Ugh I'm at work and have a thing after and I can't stop thinking about refitting my mechs (more armor and specialize!) and my next mission.

Game's rough around the edges and owning new hard but Iove it.

Playing it vicariously through this thread.

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:21

NoNotTheMindProbe: Aug 9, 2010; pony porn was here

ulmont posted:

Just getting into this slowly. I assume that I'm not going to be able to pay back my debt, mechanically (and therefore not be allowed to leave the starting area) until I advance the plot?

AFAIK that's correct. The only time pressure on the campaign map is your monthly budget so you can feel free to slum it with backwater contracts until you are comfortable with the game.

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:25

Gamerofthegame: Oct 28, 2010; Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

Phi230 posted:

I feel like they can just redo everything the same, but modern and higher quality, up to like 3050. Then do something new

nah, clan stuff was nice because it was a fundamentally different play style altogether and that's good

the problem is that tabletop battletech is such a math game of moving a specific amount of hexes to have the highest evade percent you can get without losing accuracy that the faction group all about moving fast with good weapons and paper armor is, in fact, to good.

They'd be hot garbo in this, though, as even with all the evasion pips in the world you aren't regularly going to be rolling 9% to hit.

edit: (well, some of the clan variants were stupid, but the only outright op one was the clan pulse laser)

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:32

Zore: Sep 21, 2010; willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d�etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Someone created a nexus page for Battletech specifically just to upload this mod

https://www.nexusmods.com/battletech/mods/1

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:40

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Zore posted:

Someone created a nexus page for Battletech specifically just to upload this mod

https://www.nexusmods.com/battletech/mods/1

I'm glad they provided instructions on how to implement even more pronouns.

It's even easier than I thought.

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:50

Drone: Aug 22, 2003; Incredible machine

Zore posted:

Someone created a nexus page for Battletech specifically just to upload this mod

https://www.nexusmods.com/battletech/mods/1

i'm so sorry

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# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:50

Sky Shadowing: Feb 13, 2012; At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)

Zore posted:

Someone created a nexus page for Battletech specifically just to upload this mod

https://www.nexusmods.com/battletech/mods/1

Total DLs: 0.

Nice.

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:51

cheesetriangles: Jan 5, 2011

Argh I almost had pilot kills on a stalker and king crab in the same battle and ended up coring them both because my mechs do too much damage.

# ? Apr 27, 2018 15:56

TheTrend: Feb 4, 2005; I have a descriminating toe

A evac ship for completing a mission landed on Glitch and my VIndicator destroying both totally. What the gently caress game?

# ? Apr 27, 2018 16:11

Paingod556: Nov 8, 2011; Not a problem, sir

So that mission with the ammo crates that everyone goes full Torgue 'gently caress the money, EXPLOSIONS' on?

Turns out you can do it without blowing up any-

# ? Apr 27, 2018 16:23

Internet Explorer: Jun 1, 2005

I hope they're doing user metrics because I slampicked they when making my character.

# ? Apr 27, 2018 16:29

Aramoro: Jun 1, 2012

TheTrend posted:

A evac ship for completing a mission landed on Glitch and my VIndicator destroying both totally. What the gently caress game?

Were you on a desert map by any chance? It highlights in red where the drop ship is going to land but it's hard to see on desert planets I think. It think it also says something like your mech may be in danger when it means destroyed utterly.

# ? Apr 27, 2018 16:30

Berke Negri: Feb 15, 2012; Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao

as long as you leave like 3 ammo crates standing all youre really losing out on is like 200k c-bills which would barely cover the repair bills i'd incur if i had not lit that base up like a christmas tree

# ? Apr 27, 2018 16:33

spiritual bypass: Feb 19, 2008; Grimey Drawer

Phi230 posted:

I feel like they can just redo everything the same, but modern and higher quality, up to like 3050. Then do something new

Leave the game mechanics largely intact but make everything thematically Brigador

# ? Apr 27, 2018 16:34

Cobbsprite: May 6, 2012; Threatening stuffed animals for fun and profit.

Internet Explorer posted:

I hope they're doing user metrics because I slampicked they when making my character.

I totally did this, too. I will probably never pick anything else. One of my next games I'm going to pretend my avatar is actually twelve squirrels in a human costume.

# ? Apr 27, 2018 16:45

Zigmidge: May 12, 2002; Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.

Ciaphas posted:

Based on a reddit post about what configuration values affect animation speeds and accels, I decided I didn't want to edit all those loving files to find a nice value.

So I wrote a lovely little app in an hour to do it for me.

Backup your BattleTech_Data\StreamingAssets\data\movement folder in your Battletech directory first, then run totally not a virus dot exe from the zip file, enter a speed multiplier, click Update, and voila, next time you enter a mission the animations will be sped (or slowed, you madman) by that much.

(edit) blah blah blah I don't guarantee it won't burn down your internet blah MIT license blah. But it worked a treat for me and a mate.

Quoting this because this game needs it bad. Put this in the OP.

# ? Apr 27, 2018 16:46

RabidWeasel: Aug 4, 2007; Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

Paingod556 posted:

So that mission with the ammo crates that everyone goes full Torgue 'gently caress the money, EXPLOSIONS' on?

Turns out you can do it without blowing up any-

Apparently I lucked into the god strat for this fight which is bringing 3 LRM boats and a bulwark frontliner with JJs, jump up onto the little ridge right in front of you for vision on turn 1 and then you can immediately drop LRMs on one of the ammo crates in the main base area, destroying 2 turrets and 1 mech and crippling a second mech. Then you park all your LRM boats in the water and blow everything up.

# ? Apr 27, 2018 16:52

Mr Luxury Yacht: Apr 16, 2012

What on earth are Slepnir APCs made of? They take so much punishment. Had a convoy destruction mission where I had to destroy a handful of them and one survived a double stomp from my Centurion.

# ? Apr 27, 2018 17:10

Gamerofthegame: Oct 28, 2010; Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

rt4 posted:

Leave the game mechanics largely intact but make everything thematically Brigador

brigador is inspired by one of the mechwarrior games, we can't go full circle here

# ? Apr 27, 2018 17:16

CellarDweller: Jan 19, 2014; Down In The Pit... There's It!

Renegret posted:

I'm glad they provided instructions on how to implement even more pronouns.

It's even easier than I thought.

I was actually thinking about doing that. Anyone know if there is a good list of pronouns somewhere?

edit: nvm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-person_pronoun#Summary

CellarDweller fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Apr 27, 2018

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# ? May 28, 2024 02:26

RBA Starblade: Apr 28, 2008; Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Gamerofthegame posted:

brigador is inspired by one of the mechwarrior games, we can't go full circle here

Party Van when

# ? Apr 27, 2018 17:30

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