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I guess I was late to the GDP discussion. Yeah, this thread is more level headed than the "When Chinar rules the world" and "We must be more like Chinar, look ho much they get donnnnnnne" choirs which are still popular in many western countries.
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While the latter seems like straight ignorance, what's the former motivated by? I forget the word, something akin to 'I live there, therefore all the problems I know of come from there and thus the US must fall'. Envy? Unwarranted self-importance? One of those people Gilbert and Sullivan claim will not be missed?
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I dunno. I get people wanting US hegemony to end, but the gently caress would you want to replace that with Chinese hegemony for? If you think the US is bad...
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poo poo at least the US just commodifies your culture instead of just sending 100k Han to squat on your bombed out village.
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Apr 27, 2018 15:41
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WarpedNaba posted:While the latter seems like straight ignorance, what's the former motivated by? I forget the word, something akin to 'I live there, therefore all the problems I know of come from there and thus the US must fall'. Envy? Unwarranted self-importance? One of those people Gilbert and Sullivan claim will not be missed? The belief in China inevitably ruling the world someday is not a recent phenomenon. It's a product of a combination of orientalism and racial theory that have colored Western views of China for centuries.
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From the BBC article about that mass-stabbing that occurred today:quote:Photos on social media show several young students lying on the ground, surrounded by shocked onlookers.
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Grand Fromage posted:I dunno. I get people wanting US hegemony to end, but the gently caress would you want to replace that with Chinese hegemony for? If you think the US is bad... What's the serious alternative to US hegemony? Free for all powervacuum, or hegemony by an authoritarian state? How's that supposed to improve the state of the world?
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Apr 27, 2018 19:36
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Power Khan posted:What's the serious alternative to US hegemony? Free for all powervacuum, or hegemony by an authoritarian state? How's that supposed to improve the state of the world? um... you know the usa isnt a good country, right
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Apr 27, 2018 19:54
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Power Khan posted:What's the serious alternative to US hegemony? Free for all powervacuum, or hegemony by an authoritarian state? How's that supposed to improve the state of the world? Concert of Europe 2.0, this time with less Europe
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communism bitch posted:um... you know the usa isnt a good country, right Not the worst! Not the worst! Not the worst not...
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I knew a Taiwanese girl that really wanted to go to the Japan so she could find her father's first love??? and bond with her??? It must have been some tv show plot she internalized
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Power Khan posted:What's the serious alternative to US hegemony? Free for all powervacuum, or hegemony by an authoritarian state? How's that supposed to improve the state of the world? the other side of the american exceptionalism coin is the belief that america is unique in its problems and in occasional poor behavior and that it is the sole root cause of all evil emanating into the world like the thought process is one day america goes away and then everything will be great. that's the long and short of it
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Apr 27, 2018 20:46
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So a lady I know was telling me about how back in China she had a pet duck that was super smart and house trained and could follow some basic commands. She said it was a special type of duck they locally called a Canton duck. A red crown, red feet, and a blue and green body. Large, almost goose sized. Google is not helping me find any pictures of this bird. Searching for canton duck only gives food pictures, anything china and duck related generally only gives food pictures and info. Does anyone know what species of duck this was? This would have been in a rural-ish area outside of HK.
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Apr 27, 2018 21:21
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Baronjutter posted:So a lady I know was telling me about how back in China she had a pet duck that was super smart and house trained and could follow some basic commands. She said it was a special type of duck they locally called a Canton duck. A red crown, red feet, and a blue and green body. Large, almost goose sized. Born a Canton duck, died a Peking duck. F
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Apr 27, 2018 21:23
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Power Khan posted:What's the serious alternative to US hegemony? 
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Baronjutter posted:So a lady I know was telling me about how back in China she had a pet duck that was super smart and house trained and could follow some basic commands. She said it was a special type of duck they locally called a Canton duck. A red crown, red feet, and a blue and green body. Large, almost goose sized. Sounds like not a duck at all, but a waterfowl called a Muscovy duck, I could be wrong. They come in various colours, are cantankerous, I think technically they are not ducks or waterfowl but in their own little section. Fairly big. 
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Apr 27, 2018 22:14
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Baronjutter posted:So a lady I know was telling me about how back in China she had a pet duck that was super smart and house trained and could follow some basic commands. She said it was a special type of duck they locally called a Canton duck. A red crown, red feet, and a blue and green body. Large, almost goose sized. You sure it was blue and not purple? There's a bird similar to that on this page: http://www.danheller.com/santa-barbara-zoo.html Scroll down for 'purple bird with red crown' Not sure if it's a duck though. You might have to ask pet island, if there's anyone left posting in PI. Otherwise it could be a mutated duck. Not a joke about pollution, that sort of thing happens.
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Apr 27, 2018 22:19
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Kharnifex posted:Sounds like not a duck at all, but a waterfowl called a Muscovy duck, I could be wrong. Yeah that's the best guess I've gotten from other people. I even joined a loving bird identification forum and that's their best guess. She kept saying it had a big red HAT and gestured to the top of her head, while muscovy ducks more have gross red flesh masks. We also have a lot of them at the petting zoo's duck area, and she knows it well and said she never saw her duck species there. It looks like they can vary a lot in colour though, the ones at our petting zoo are all white but they come in all sorts of colours and patterns.
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Apr 27, 2018 22:30
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Crested Ducks have a crown, but I've never heard of them being red. In Hong Kong you can acquire any bird or pet you want, so who knows!
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You know people get cosmetic surgery for their expensive and rare Arowana fish. Maybe they were dyeing a duck with pigments to make it pretty and rare looking. Speaking of, how truthful is this book? https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25987033-the-dragon-behind-the-glass It goes on about arowana's being collectors items and rich asian people showing them off. Is that really a thing? Or maybe it's more south asian than china.
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Apr 27, 2018 22:38
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It used to be, back in the 80s-90s. Olds who peaked in the 80s might still have the giant dumbass fish and unopened bottles of duty-free whiskey taking up all the shelf space in their living room.
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Apr 27, 2018 22:49
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People do love their dragon fish, then they gently caress them up by having them in glass bottom tanks with no substrate and the fishes eyes go all insane because it doesn't know which ways up
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communism bitch posted:um... you know the usa isnt a good country, right you're right, its a great country
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India will be a superpower by 2020.
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Kharnifex posted:Crested Ducks have a crown, but I've never heard of them being red. Just don't feed them after midnight or get them wet.
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Baronjutter posted:So a lady I know was telling me about how back in China she had a pet duck that was super smart and house trained and could follow some basic commands. She said it was a special type of duck they locally called a Canton duck. A red crown, red feet, and a blue and green body. Large, almost goose sized. loving lol if she means Mandarin duck and called it a Cantonese duck
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simplefish posted:loving lol if she means Mandarin duck and called it a Cantonese duck A quick Google shows me that this bird definitely has a red crown.
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Power Khan posted:What's the serious alternative to US hegemony? Free for all powervacuum, or hegemony by an authoritarian state? How's that supposed to improve the state of the world? I dunno. There are people who think Chinese hegemony would be good, or a balanced US-China-EU power relationship. I am very much not an American patriot but I also don't see any viable alternative at the moment. Some sort of sci-fi world democratic government would be better but lol at that happening anytime soon.
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Yeah the pie in the sky utopian vision is usually some sort of US-China-EU "spheres of influence" bullshit that sounds like a really bad idea to anyone who knows anything about the history of great power relations
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WarpedNaba posted:This is where we make a crack about D&D, right. I get the impression most D&D posters think that the US should literally just disappear into the void and then we would finally have Star Trek
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Fojar38 posted:Yeah the pie in the sky utopian vision is usually some sort of US-China-EU "spheres of influence" bullshit that sounds like a really bad idea to anyone who knows anything about the history of great power relations The original vision for this was the US, Japan, and a very different kind of "european union" but America went and hosed it all up, drat awful America!!!! Then there was another vision where the world was meant to be divided between the spheres of the US and the MVD, but the lovely America hosed that up too!!! hakimashou fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Apr 28, 2018 |
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Apr 28, 2018 04:28
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Power Khan posted:What's the serious alternative to US hegemony? Free for all powervacuum, or hegemony by an authoritarian state? How's that supposed to improve the state of the world? Pretty much some corporatist oligarchy, as it would be the only kind of power structure that has the current arrangements built in to just roll up and take over. Doomsday answer would be if the states became corporatist semi-nations vying for power 
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simplefish posted:loving lol if she means Mandarin duck and called it a Cantonese duck I also want this to be true.
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WarpedNaba posted:This is where we make a crack about D&D, right. This thread is a crack at the DnD China thread and by extension DnD. Holy poo poo is it a poo poo show, but when isn't it. I would much prefer the EU take charge but that's not happening as they don't have remotely enough military muscle to do enable it to assert a "Policing" role to keep the seas international. But EU can be pretty effective economically. A big thing a lot of people forget about China Vs US is that China is alone. The US has the almost the entire western and technological powers it can potentially call on if it isn't some really stupid poo poo like the 2001 infinite war or Trump. The US can't be as big as it is without friends. Trump is the worse president based on this alone. The UN and State Department are easily the most powerful foreign policy tools they have. Oh god, no one should wish for a great power struggles of old. The US is hosed up but gently caress off about importing or bowing to Chinese governance. I don't even want their movies.
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Yeah it's less the US and more the (relatively) functional alliance system the US created. China has no friends, it's just a giant screaming baby that someone allowed to get its hands on a knife and now you have a screaming knifebaby to deal with.
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Literally the only country that is capable of policing every major waterway on the planet is the United States by geography alone. If it stops doing so it becomes a nightmarish free for all and the global economy grinds to a halt.
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Mistle posted:Someone will eventually run their own bird genomes and if any discrepancies happen, the sheer face loss... Devils Affricate posted:Dogs are the new temporary migrant workers
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Why just memorising for the test might not be the best idea https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Northern_Airlines_Flight_6901?wprov=sfla1 quote:Another factor was the crew's lack of proficiency in English. When the GPWS issued an aural alarm, the captain asked his first officer what the words "Pull up" meant. The first officer replied that he did not know. Consequently, the pilots ignored the warnings and failed to correct their excessive rate of descent, causing the plane to strike power lines and a wall before coming down in a field.
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