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DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
I will blame absolutely everything on capitalism and you will not stop me

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Stickfigure
Sep 4, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

DoubleDonut posted:

I will blame absolutely everything on capitalism and you will not stop me

Ever thought of just cleaning your room, huh, bucko?

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

Stickfigure posted:

Why do people always bring up class and economics when talking about incels? Their frustrations stem from social and sexual failures, not poverty. You can't just blame not getting pussy on capitalism.
When you grow up in an environment where everything's a loving competition it can be hard to accept you're a loser.

Stickfigure
Sep 4, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Could you name some environment where it's easy to accept? I'm at a loss.
Like we could materially equalize everything right now and some people will still be unfuckable and others super attractive.

Stickfigure fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Apr 27, 2018

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

There are billions of people more deserving of your empathy than middle class idiots crying about "sexual market values" from mommys basement

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

Stickfigure posted:

Could you name some environment where it's easy to accept? I'm at a loss.
Like we could materially equalize everything right now and some people will still be unfuckable and others super attractive.

you asked I answered if you wanted some deep theoretical debate you're in the wrong thread my man

Stickfigure
Sep 4, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

TetsuoTW posted:

you asked I answered if you wanted some deep theoretical debate you're in the wrong thread my man

Man? Did you just assume my gender? The DSA genderqueeretard caucus will hear about it!
But yeah sorry I got carried away I guess.

quadrophrenic
Feb 4, 2011

WIN MARNIE WIN

Stickfigure posted:

Man? Did you just assume my gender? The DSA genderqueeretard caucus will hear about it!

cool post my man

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Stickfigure posted:

Ever thought of just cleaning your room, huh, bucko?
Lobsters don't do housework.

Stickfigure posted:

Could you name some environment where it's easy to accept? I'm at a loss.
Most other societies aren't as focused on the concepts of "achievement" and "success" as Americans, and parents care more about their children being well-socialized than about them winning the competition in the marketplace.

...anyway, the incels and anime Nazis are a weird, mentally ill, and particularly unsympathetic outlier of a generation of millions who are seeing our horizons dimming, but it's weird to act like this isn't about economics.

Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Apr 27, 2018

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Penisaurus Sex posted:

It's an ethnography. That's the idea.

Ethnographies don't typically require the writer to outright agree with them by saying 'hm perhaps Tumblr IS causing this, also these guys are mostly harmless dorks so people getting mad about them are being silly'

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band
https://twitter.com/veryapetv/status/989885133535825920

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

sexpig by night posted:

Ethnographies don't typically require the writer to outright agree with them by saying 'hm perhaps Tumblr IS causing this, also these guys are mostly harmless dorks so people getting mad about them are being silly'

you didn't actually read the book

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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Lol literally every time I've ever seen someone say "did you just assume my gender," it has been an rear end in a top hat making fun of trans people and not anyone with any real experience with trans folks.

Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

Retarded for Busting
Grimey Drawer

sexpig by night posted:

Ethnographies don't typically require the writer to outright agree with them by saying 'hm perhaps Tumblr IS causing this, also these guys are mostly harmless dorks so people getting mad about them are being silly'

I think you may have misread her argument. I believe Nagle was positing that tumblr sjw culture and 4chan edgelord nazism has a mutually constituting effect (like a feedback loop), wherein each one assumes the form constructed by the other.

Head Bee Guy fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Apr 27, 2018

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

fatherboxx posted:

There are billions of people more deserving of your empathy than middle class idiots crying about "sexual market values" from mommys basement

Empathy is not a finite resource.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Head Bee Guy posted:

I think you may have misread her argument. I believe Nagle was positing that tumblr sjw culture and 4chan edgelord nazism has a mutually constituting effect (like a feedback loop), wherein each one assumes the form constructed by the other.

Right but in the actual world one of those groups functionally has, at the bare minimum, a rapidly growing influence over a major political party and half of the other group aren't even loving real let alone a major force in the culture so comparing the two kinda is giving in to the right wing talking points to begin with.

It's like the gamergate poo poo, on one side there's people who've faced zero consequences for harassing and abusing people, including garbo companies like PlayAsia who in 2018 still loving invoke that poo poo to get massive sales from the idiots, and on the other side there's a loose alliance of media people and indie types saying 'that kinda sucks that you're doing that'. Just because they're two different sides doesn't actually make them two sides of the same coin.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Like, Donald Trump is the 4chan president, he's got literal out and proud neo nazis running for major office. There's no 'sjw' equal there, even actual leftist groups aren't these cartoon 'sjw' people and the centrist dems have never actually been that. There's no actual parity.

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

Stickfigure posted:

Man? Did you just assume my gender? The DSA genderqueeretard caucus will hear about it!
But yeah sorry I got carried away I guess.

Ace of Baes?

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
Red Scare patreon is active now and the reward tiers are pretty great.


"For the ultimate pay pig - you get nothing. Maybe we'll throw in a t-shirt? "
Love these graphics.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

sexpig by night posted:

Right but in the actual world one of those groups functionally has, at the bare minimum, a rapidly growing influence over a major political party and half of the other group aren't even loving real let alone a major force in the culture so comparing the two kinda is giving in to the right wing talking points to begin with.

And speaking specifically to the nerdy online part of the alt-right, what set them off in the first place was youtubes and blogs doing incredibly basic crit of their hobbies, tumblr only came into it to dig or make up dumb stuff to fuel their negative image of feminism or whatever. Which makes it hard to really frame as an issue for the left to solve since if you want to find it, there will always be something self-validating to find in the millions of wailing online voices.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Motto
Aug 3, 2013

so would that just be 100% liberal fantasy of Proper Polite Government or just mostly fantasy plus thinly veiled resentment towards "extremists on both sides"

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


they should call it the east wing since we got a russian puppet in there!

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Earth 2 Twitter version: president cillary hlinton, somehow gets in all the same issues as Trump

Good Proper Republican version: Jeb!

Thompsons
Aug 28, 2008

Ask me about onklunk extraction.
If Aaron Sorkin's got you down then just skip to 42:30 of the latest premium ep for the Baked Alaska section, it is magical :allears:

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica
An honorable, republican president Jeb!TBD will somehow need President Bartlet's counsel in these trying times of Russian/Chinese Imperalism

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

sexpig by night posted:

Right but in the actual world one of those groups functionally has, at the bare minimum, a rapidly growing influence over a major political party and half of the other group aren't even loving real let alone a major force in the culture so comparing the two kinda is giving in to the right wing talking points to begin with.

It's like the gamergate poo poo, on one side there's people who've faced zero consequences for harassing and abusing people, including garbo companies like PlayAsia who in 2018 still loving invoke that poo poo to get massive sales from the idiots, and on the other side there's a loose alliance of media people and indie types saying 'that kinda sucks that you're doing that'. Just because they're two different sides doesn't actually make them two sides of the same coin.

What's this about play asia? (I haven't used them in years and ironically enough most of my foreign game purchases recently have been to ukraine)

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Phone posted:

What's this about play asia? (I haven't used them in years and ironically enough most of my foreign game purchases recently have been to ukraine)

Back a bit ago for some lovely DOA game they were all "THE SJWs DON'T WANT YOU PLAYING THIS GAME" because it was a cheap titty game and literally a person said 'this is gross' so that means there's a CENSORSHIP MOVEMENT. And to fight that censorship you HAVE to preorder the game, specifically through them, before the AMERICAN PRUDE SJWs force the game devs to CENSOR THEMSELVES.

Naturally that worked like gangbusters so now any time there's a game with a boob in it they go all 'better buy it before THEY take your games' or 'trigger an SJW by buying this game and paying us money' on social media and it works.

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
I absolutely love chuds so today's episode was right up my alley

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Also yea actually on topic any chud hunt is a good episode for me. I genuinely enjoy hearing how loving dumb/crazy these people are. Qanon is one of my favorite things going on.

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
Totally agreed. I love any time they do this and their Reading Series/looks at opinion douchebags.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

Motto posted:

love to read a screenshot of a tweeted photograph of a text

Love to laugh about people on Twitter getting outraged over a single line from Chapo taken out of context and then get really mad about a single line from a book someone posted on Twitter sans context.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Found the last person to care about "gamergate".

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Apoplexy posted:

Totally agreed. I love any time they do this and their Reading Series/looks at opinion douchebags.
Its an unlimited goldmine of crazy that keeps evolving into crazier and crazier stuff, these episodes own.

I kind of want them to do a Dark Enlightenment or Yudkowsky themed episode like this at one point.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Gorn Myson posted:

Its an unlimited goldmine of crazy that keeps evolving into crazier and crazier stuff, these episodes own.

I kind of want them to do a Dark Enlightenment or Yudkowsky themed episode like this at one point.

I would say it's a bit too niche still but I heard Greg Gutfield on fuckin Fox talk about ~the intellectual dark web~ so yea guess that's a 'thing' now

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

Fame Douglas posted:

Found the last person to care about "gamergate".

I'm shocked that the guy with Opinions About Nagle is also scholar of Gamergate

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

Guy Mann posted:

Love to laugh about people on Twitter getting outraged over a single line from Chapo taken out of context and then get really mad about a single line from a book someone posted on Twitter sans context.

I'll say it again: certain people only get mad at Chapo for being ableist by not providing episode transcripts because they want it to be easier to post screenshots of problematic bits out of context

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Apr 16, 2017

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Pharmaskittle posted:

What's mgtow

Magic
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Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Slanderer posted:

I'll say it again: certain people only get mad at Chapo for being ableist by not providing episode transcripts because they want it to be easier to post screenshots of problematic bits out of context

That doesn't make any sense.

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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Motto posted:

That doesn't make any sense.

It's not a hard line of reasoning to follow, people want want transcripts of Chapo, some because they have hearing issues and it would make it easier to follow, some because they want to find their favorite bits easier, some because they want to take off-color jokes and use them damage the group be posting them without context.

Some people in the third group use the language of the first. I don't know if it's true or not, but it makes sense.

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