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Miftan posted:The people who are FBPE just seem like liberals to me. You know, the "half of all people who gently caress over the poor should be women!" type of crowd. Sorry, I don't know how to do the clap emoji. They're all outright Tories. It's the Conservative party that tore itself apart over Europe and hence it's Conservative voters that feel they have to show off how they feel on Europe. I get that a lot of them call themselves "Centreist dads" because they're ashamed of the party they support thanks to FYGM but let's not forget what they are (I have similar feelings about the way the neo-nazis call themselves "alt-right" now, it's all just an attempt to seem friendlier and more cuddly and I don't want them to succeed) 224AD was the "Year of the Consulship of Iulianus and Crispinus" - I'm sure there will be a similarly pithy name for the current phase of British political history in the future.
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Apr 30, 2018 12:41
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All the tributes to Amber Rudd are making me ill. She lied because she thought she could get away with it, then jumped to different lies as evidence emerged. Even in her resignation she continued to claim she didn't know about the targets which is total horseshit - the letter shows that she set them herself. She is fundamentally dishonest and I'm glad the Tories have finally received some blowback for lying constantly.
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Apr 30, 2018 12:48
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Ugh just filled in the pip form, yet again. Each time I forget how incredibly evil it is worded till the next time. God help anyone who does not understand how this mess of a point scoring system works. Or who does not have the massive quantity of evidence needed to back it up. Or does not have someone appointed to fill it in for them. It’s heavily weighted towards physical ability and illness, anything mental is relegated to almost meaningless so you won’t get the points unless you know how. If anyone ever needs help please please don’t hesitate to contact me. I’m more than happy teach you the ways of getting points on the cooking section and suchlike. Don’t need incredibly personal details just say you have depression or claustrophobia and whatnot. If someone wants to add that people can PM me about help with PIP to the thread’s OP then please feel free to do so.
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forkboy84 posted:https://twitter.com/LauraPidcockMP/status/990872450710802433?s=19 I sincerely hope there are big things in the future for both of these people EDIT - I was feeling really nervy about this week/local elections but I'm getting a weird (though not scientifically proven) feeling that the tide is turning
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lol https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/990915728554459137
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I still want to know who's telling Tories to stand like that.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:I still want to know who's telling Tories to stand like that.
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Osborne is trying to throw civil servants under the bus https://twitter.com/George_Osborne/status/990911105592684545?s=19
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Party Boat posted:Osborne is trying to throw civil servants under the bus who knows how much dirty poo poo they have on Osborne, we know the treasury was just straight making up growth forecasts for a long time. anyone with eyes knows he was off his tits on a number of occasions and we know he was bessie pals with james murdoch it is a real shame that all these people get at worst is a minor scandal and a resignation rather than being hanged from lampposts
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Yes please continue your war with the civil service. This can only go well.
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So how many secretaries have been fired or have resigned in disgrace during this administration's first ten months
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Party Boat posted:Osborne is trying to throw civil servants under the bus Trying to throw somebody under a bus that already left and is halfway to Ipswich by now.
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On one hand It's good to see Rudd go. On the other had, Javid voted against better fire regulations pre-grenfell and again attempted to weaken them post-grenfell by wanting the inclusion of desktop studies. Basically I wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:So how many secretaries have been fired or have resigned in disgrace during this administration's first ten months Four resignations and a crappy re-shuffle in six months apparently
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It's interesting to note that through all this government chaos Labour has continued to churn out policy announcements - today its a cap on overdraft charges. It's almost strange since they get almost no press due to being buried by the agenda, but it's nice to see that Labour is doing a better job of getting on with the day to day business of developing policy than the actual government.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:So how many secretaries have been fired or have resigned in disgrace during this administration's first ten months Michael Fallon, Priti Patel, gropey Damien Green, Amber Rudd, and Justine Greening just got sacked after Jeremy Hunt refused to step down from Health. And something might have changed at DWP?
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Also RE: local elections, Graun dropped a bit of a bombshell last night that was lost beneath the nuclear blast of Rudd's self-detonation: roughly 1 in 10 councillors in London have ties to the property market or lobby. Unsurprising, of course, but also not the kind of information you want people to see explicitly out there just before polling day.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:So how many secretaries have been fired or have resigned in disgrace during this administration's first ten months Green Fallon Patel Rudd it's been a busy few months
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Theres a consultant enjoying a big fat check on a carribean shore laughing their rear end off.
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/990934418452819970 The latest poll for what it's worth, which considering the fieldwork was begun ten days ago isn't much.
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Didn't Javid vote in favour of all of this deportation nonsense and is in fact just as bad if not worse than Rudd on the issue because he actually gives a poo poo about it rather than being oblivious? His incompetence remains to be seen but I'm sure it won't take long.
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/990934418452819970 #libdemfightback baby
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/990934418452819970 lib dem... fightback?!
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New thread title to see us off, sadly the apostrophe has to go due to Tory cuts.
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Diet Crack posted:Didn't Javid vote in favour of all of this deportation nonsense and is in fact just as bad if not worse than Rudd on the issue because he actually gives a poo poo about it rather than being oblivious? His incompetence remains to be seen but I'm sure it won't take long. Yeah the Tory party is a hydra and cutting off one head is momentarily funny but ultimately pointless. Basically anybody on that betting site's list of candidates was going to be as evil as she was.
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Just learned that Javid idolises Ayn Rand and reads The Fountainhead once a year. Ew.
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glad she is dead posted:Just learned that Javid idolises Ayn Rand and reads The Fountainhead once a year. The Fountainegg
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A man's eggo is the fountainhead of human progress.Not Operator posted:Yeah the Tory party is a hydra and cutting off one head is momentarily funny but ultimately pointless.  Remains relevant.
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That's the one where the woman gets raped but because its a big strong business man asserting his objectivist masculinity she's okay with it. Cool fav book, J-Man, I'd have probably said Dune myself.
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glad she is dead posted:Just learned that Javid idolises Ayn Rand and reads The Fountainhead once a year. Specifically the part where the 'hero' insists the only obligation he has towards his fellow human beings is to 'respect their freedom' and nothing else. Sounds like a solid position for someone in charge of public services.
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Fans posted:New thread title to see us off, sadly the apostrophe has to go due to Tory cuts. Beautiful.
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V. Illych L. posted:labour seem determined to make this the case of the election - effectively banking in people not being huge racists thing is the population are pretty racist, but they don't like to be *thought* of as racist so by tarring the government with the "racism" brush it makes people unwilling to support them
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jabby posted:Specifically the part where the 'hero' insists the only obligation he has towards his fellow human beings is to 'respect their freedom' and nothing else.
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V. Illych L. posted:labour seem determined to make this the case of the election - effectively banking in people not being huge racists
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Guavanaut posted:Also the one where the hero blows up a housing project because he doesn't like that someone made changes to his design. The part that blew my mind from the Guardian was that apparently Javid read his favourite bit of The Fountainhead to his girlfriend (now his wife) and she said she'd break up with him if he ever did it again. Just.. how can you have a relationship with someone you fundamentally disagree with about their entire approach to ethics and morality? It boggles my mind. There is nothing more fundamental to someone's character.
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people are absolutely massive racists but they'll point blank refuse to believe this and mostly think only their opinion on the subject has any weight this is about black british taxpayers being deported and abused - the BNP stance was softer than this. Sure, most tories would have done exactly the same thing, but they can't look their black friends in the eye and say this is fine (because they're in jamaica). We won't succeed in making people accept that a "hostile environment" towards minorities is definitively racist because racists don't understand cause and effect, but they don't like the effect, and that's the focus.
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