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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/janemerrick23/status/990906263423811584 like this is a valid point for wage slaves doing morally dubious work because the alternative is starving to death on the streets, but if "resigning" just means going back to earning £60k or whatever and being on the news a bit less often, then lol
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Don't judge me by what I've said and done, I was only following orders. Yes, I still work for my evil boss, why d'you ask?
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XMNN posted:like this is a valid point for wage slaves doing morally dubious work because the alternative is starving to death on the streets, but if "resigning" just means going back to earning £60k or whatever and being on the news a bit less often, then lol I get the point she's making, if you join the cabinet then you will vote for things you disagree with. Collective responsibility exists for understandable reasons and a cabinet member needs to consider when that overrides what they presumably assume is the good work they are doing in whatever department they are working in. That said, Robin Cook quit over Iraq. When the government is doing something so fundamentally bad as pure racism as in the Windrush case and you don't think that's a matter worth resigning over then I seriously doubt your basic decency.
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XMNN posted:like this is a valid point for wage slaves doing morally dubious work because the alternative is starving to death on the streets, but if "resigning" just means going back to earning £60k or whatever and being on the news a bit less often, then lol According to the pundits you can't judge mp's on their voting record, their party, what they say in public or private, what they did before parliament or the company they keep. What are you supposed to judge them on?
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Apr 30, 2018 18:03
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Their weird head, or their limp merman body?
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Not Operator posted:Their weird head, or their limp merman body? You can't judge Sajid Javid on anything as irrelevant as Sajid Javid. You have to judge him based on the kind old Indian guy who works at your corner shop and always saves you a copy of Empire.
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JoylessJester posted:According to the pundits you can't judge mp's on their voting record, their party, what they say in public or private, what they did before parliament or the company they keep. What are you supposed to judge them on? how often the daily mail has accused them of stalinism obv
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/janemerrick23/status/990906263423811584 Not surprised that someone at the ground floor of the Spoon with Rupert Myers doesn’t think people should be judged on anything they’ve actually done.
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Hmm, I hope he waits until the end of the week to dispense his history lesson, to avoid alienating swathes of the electorate who aren't ready to hear a history lesson on the British Empire. There's a time and a place, and it's not right before some critical local elections. Edit: vv You gotta work with the electorate you have 
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Prince John posted:Hmm, I hope he waits until the end of the week to dispense his history lesson, to avoid alienating swathes of the electorate who aren't ready to hear a history lesson on the British Empire There's a time and a place, and it's not right before some critical local elections. I hate you with all of my being
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I imagine it'll be much the same as his Day of Shame speech, which seemed to go over well with everyone who wasn't already Not Voting Labour because something something immigrants something English Working Men something something he is a Black Man.
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JoylessJester posted:According to the pundits you can't judge mp's on their voting record, their party, what they say in public or private, what they did before parliament or the company they keep. What are you supposed to judge them on? What Jane Merrick and all the other political hive mind tell you to think of them.
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learnincurve posted:I was once told that “black people are supposed to hate Asians” by a *fat racist white UKIP supporter who always claimed not to be racist because “Muslim is not a race” We don't exactly got jobcentre pluses here but I recognize the type. I've met surprising numbers of 19-year-old dropouts who've 'built the country' and junkies between rehab visits who've 'never gotten any help' while the darkies get all the stuff. It's not just white people either, I've had persians telling me the arabs get all the benefits, and arabs saying the same about the somalis. People seem to have a need to identify lower classes of people that they're superior to, and to proclaim how they're distinguished from them. Sometimes they're entirely unaware of how lovely they sound while doing it too, it can be surreal
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interesting watching Sajid javid try to pretend to be outraged by windrush without actually criticising the people responsible for it and his response to Dianne Abott saying "we're not going to judge you on what you say now but what you actually do about it" being "you don't have a monopoly on being offended", which is fair, I'm sure he will immediately set about dismantling the disgraceful racist policies implemented by ummm... his boss also lol that Sajid javid is p much officially Theresa Mays asian friend who means she can't possibly be a racist
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XMNN posted:also lol that Sajid javid is p much officially Theresa Mays asian friend who means she can't possibly be a racist Imagine the crowing if he became leader. "Ooh we've had 2 women prime ministers and an Asian one. Labour's only ever had white men. Guess we win at diversity!" Though it would be nice if the eventual Corbyn successor wasn't a white man
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Meanwhile, there's something nasty brewing in Somerset healthcare. Here's a letter I sent to some relevant people about it:quote:Hi, my name’s Darth Walrus. A couple of weeks back, the National Autistic Society informed us that it would be suspending services in the Bath and North-East Somerset area due to a lack of money, and that the council will be looking for an alternative provider. That provider will most likely be Virgin Care, seeing as they’re already the primary healthcare provider in the area, and they already do the drop-in autism services in B&NES, whereas the NAS handles personal assistants, residential care, and the like. I have a number of questions about this, and a number of very serious concerns – I believe this move has serious implications on both the local and national levels.
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https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/991013775816962049 https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/991009901496422400 JFC. https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/991013611689607169 Second good use of  itt.
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Zephirus posted:https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/991013611689607169 Woodcock has been one of the loudest voices calling for 'zero tolerance' of antisemitism, I'm sure he would agree that sexual harassment is no less serious.
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You're an idiot if you think the Sainsbury's-Asda merger won't result in fewer jobs and less competition. That's the entire reason for merging companies - lower wage bill and eliminating a competitor. That said, I won't be sorry to see Walmart lose their influence in the UK supermarket market.
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I didn't get the role at the big London Museum.  Oh well, I was one of 6 people interviewed out of 100+ people so I must be doing something right!
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Seaside Loafer posted:Haha they put a non white person in charge of the department of deporting the brown people, i wonder if that was a tactical decision hmmmmmm Must have gotten some canny advice from Trump, who put the one black guy into the "urban housing" position
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Private Speech posted:What about Indians? There aren't that many compared to people from other parts of Asia, but generally speaking they seem to get accepted more readily (as long as they aren't Muslim ofc). Chinese people seem to get comparatively little racist abuse from what I can tell. Chinatowns are everywhere and they're super obvious (the one in Newcastle has a huge Chinese gate for example), loads of the Chinese population speaks little to no English, non-Chinese owned local businesses frequented by Chinese people have signs etc in Chinese for them with Chinese speaking staff...and yet no one bats an eyelid. One tiny minaret on a mosque however and all the gammons are yelling about Londonistan. I have always found this weird contrast between two comparably insular ethnic communities pretty strange. e: Come to think of it though, I can think of very few people in politics of East Asian ethnicity while there are a a reasonable number of South Asians.
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Julio Cruz posted:It sounds like this means that if the Tories go full-on No Deal Hardest Brexit there'll be a Parliamentary vote to decide what happens next? This seems like quite a Big Deal. It is. The problem is all one of May's making. Due to her complete and utter gently caress up of triggering Brexit before she has started it in Parliament it means they have to get both houses to pass the legislation. Normally they could just bypass the Lords after a year - the problem is they don't have a year! Due to this vote, it means that Brexit really is now in the hands of the Lords - assuming they revote for it at the next and only time it can go before the Lords again. If they re-add the amendment again May won't have the time necessary to force it through, thus making the amendment kind of de facto in effect. It all could have been avoided if they had just delayed formally triggered article 50 by 6 months so as to start the process in the Commons, which would have created enough time to force it through the Lords. They really have hosed this whole process up at every step.
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ThomasPaine posted:Chinese people seem to get comparatively little racist abuse from what I can tell. Chinatowns are everywhere and they're super obvious (the one in Newcastle has a huge Chinese gate for example), loads of the Chinese population speaks little to no English, non-Chinese owned local businesses frequented by Chinese people have signs etc in Chinese for them with Chinese speaking staff...and yet no one bats an eyelid. One tiny minaret on a mosque however and all the gammons are yelling about Londonistan. I have always found this weird contrast between two comparably insular ethnic communities pretty strange. This guy is apparently the first and currently only east-asian MP we've got. He's a lying tory bastard though.
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communism bitch posted:This guy is apparently the first and currently only east-asian MP we've got. He's a lying tory bastard though. honourable mention: Anna Lo
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WeAreTheRomans posted:John Woodcock suspended lol This is amazing because he's spent his entire life  ing about Labour needing to act exactly like they just did
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clear eyes full farts posted:honourable mention: Anna Lo I'd never heard of her before. Sounds like a good egg.
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Party Boat posted:Osborne is trying to throw civil servants under the bus FWIW, the rest of the civil service usually views the Home Office as incompetent crypto-fascists with odd links to the security services so this may actually be true. Yes, even taking into account the fact that civil servants are expected to switch departments regularly, apparently institutional culture is a Thing. As far as I can tell, what actually happens is the good ones move on and the people who stay are a mix of the people who are devoted to the job, the people who have nowhere else to go and the weird ones. By reputation the Homie Office trends to the weird foreigner-hating side.
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communism bitch posted:I'd never heard of her before. Sounds like a good egg. Stood down a few years back cause of racial abuse fyi
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/991014822371196928 Wow yeah they're done messing around 
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kustomkarkommando posted:Stood down a few years back cause of racial abuse fyi gently caress's sake
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Seaside Loafer posted:Maybe they think that people will be happy being deported if its comes from one of their kin or something I mean he's already made positive steps, he's decided to replace the term "hostile environment" with the much friendlier "compliant environment" because he's a child of immigration and he knows just how tough it can be and he wants the racist policies he's going to be implementing to have nice names please ignore Rudd's use of "compliant environment" in that letter that hosed her e: in case anyone thought this was bad satire https://twitter.com/alantravis40/status/990980964959571968 XMNN fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Apr 30, 2018 |
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