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Unsinkabear
Jun 8, 2013

Ensign, raise the beariscope.





That scenario ends with me holding the manual and you know it

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Sharparoni
Jan 11, 2004

THE MOST EXCITING MASCOT IN THE LAST 4000 YEARS OF COLLEGE SPORTS


Thanks for the replies. I test drove an Accord today. It was alright I guess. I'll try some other stuff some other time. Thanks for reading my exciting post.

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

I put 3500 miles on my car last year.

Should I just lease a new car? I don't really want a new car, but also this is pretty inexpensive.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

FogHelmut posted:

I put 3500 miles on my car last year.

Should I just lease a new car? I don't really want a new car, but also this is pretty inexpensive.

Is there a reason you need to change cars? This is BFC, so the answer is going to be to keep the one you've got.

The cheapest thing to do is generally keep the one you have until the wheels fall off. If you can afford something new and dislike your current ride, then fine.

The King of Swag
Nov 10, 2005

To escape the closure,
is to become the God of Swag.
Looked at a '99 Impreza Outback Sport with the 2.2H and over 300k miles today, and the car itself was actually pretty good. Not the prettiest on the outside, but the paint wasn't falling off and the interior was in good shape. Dude selling it also obviously took care of it, as he was showing off all the work he had done to keep it in top shape. The only thing that made me wary, was the guy was adamant about not riding the clutch or keeping the clutch in at a light. Said he threw the clutch in 600 miles ago, but it has all been highway and he's still worried that riding it will glaze it, and just doesn't believe in holding the clutch at a light, period. Though he did say I was free to romp on it to see for myself that the clutch is new and doesn't slip.

Guy was firm at $2200, and honestly the car seemed worth it, but I walked away because the A/C doesn't function at all--doesn't even try to cycle, and A/C is a requirement to survive summer. As I told the guy, A/C is one of the only things I'm not equipped to handle myself (all the equipment is expensive; even just a proper vacuum pump), and while I'll use them for a vehicle I already own, I want to avoid an A/C shop as much as possible (they tend to be shady and I've had bad experiences in the past). So he said he has a friend that has the necessary equipment, and he personally knows where those systems commonly fail (he thinks it's probably the banjo-style (I forget the actual name) fitting on the compressor) , so he asked if I'd still be interested if they got it fixed and running, and I told him if they got it running and holding pressure, I'd come to pick it up.

So we'll see how that goes.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

The King of Swag posted:

Looked at a '99 Impreza Outback Sport with the 2.2H and over 300k miles today, and the car itself was actually pretty good. Not the prettiest on the outside, but the paint wasn't falling off and the interior was in good shape. Dude selling it also obviously took care of it, as he was showing off all the work he had done to keep it in top shape. The only thing that made me wary, was the guy was adamant about not riding the clutch or keeping the clutch in at a light. Said he threw the clutch in 600 miles ago, but it has all been highway and he's still worried that riding it will glaze it, and just doesn't believe in holding the clutch at a light, period. Though he did say I was free to romp on it to see for myself that the clutch is new and doesn't slip.

Guy was firm at $2200, and honestly the car seemed worth it, but I walked away because the A/C doesn't function at all--doesn't even try to cycle, and A/C is a requirement to survive summer. As I told the guy, A/C is one of the only things I'm not equipped to handle myself (all the equipment is expensive; even just a proper vacuum pump), and while I'll use them for a vehicle I already own, I want to avoid an A/C shop as much as possible (they tend to be shady and I've had bad experiences in the past). So he said he has a friend that has the necessary equipment, and he personally knows where those systems commonly fail (he thinks it's probably the banjo-style (I forget the actual name) fitting on the compressor) , so he asked if I'd still be interested if they got it fixed and running, and I told him if they got it running and holding pressure, I'd come to pick it up.

So we'll see how that goes.
Sounds like a decent deal for what it is. My son drives a '99 Impreza and it seems to do OK for him. Stuff breaks like it does with a 20-year-old car, but it's in pretty good shape overall.

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

Deteriorata posted:

Is there a reason you need to change cars? This is BFC, so the answer is going to be to keep the one you've got.

The cheapest thing to do is generally keep the one you have until the wheels fall off. If you can afford something new and dislike your current ride, then fine.

I've outgrown my paid off Subaru with only 68k miles and it doesn't even burn oil.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

FogHelmut posted:

I've outgrown my paid off Subaru with only 68k miles and it doesn't even burn oil.

Buy a miata.

You could also consider juat renting carsģcar share unless you drive every day.

Oto, you could be me who owns 2 cars and drives a combined 5000mi. Maybe.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

nm posted:


Oto, you could be me who owns 2 cars and drives a combined 5000mi. Maybe.

hello

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

The King of Swag posted:

So gently caress you Carson City Toyota; you're the type of dealer that's the reason I have spent years telling people that not every dealer is crooked, but you do need to do your research and be willing to back away from any deal if things go sideways.

Lol nearly every dealer in northern Nevada is nothing but unrepentant shitbags.

The only one I’ve had decent luck with is Reno Subaru.

Jones West has a $2000 markup over MSRP on everything while advertising that they won’t be beat on price.

Reno Toyota puts nitrogen in the tires and some clear bra on the door edges and tries to charge 600 dollars for it.

Reno Honda has the scam where they buy you new tires whenever yours wear out but only if you do 3x the manufacturers recommended maintenance at 300% markup.

The King of Swag
Nov 10, 2005

To escape the closure,
is to become the God of Swag.

I've had good luck at Dolan Mazda/Kia in Reno, but admittedly my interaction has been through the service dept. and looking around the lot. I won't get into it, but I personally think it's corporate policy for Honda dealers to be crooked. Keyes Honda in Van Nuys is probably the worst dealer I've ever dealt with as a customer or professionally.

Cretin90
Apr 10, 2006
https://www.findlaycjdr.com/inventory/2016-honda-civic-ex-t-fwd-4d-sedan-19xfc1f37ge006677

This is probably my favorite car so far other than the Mazda3 that turned out to be a complete shitter. (ask me about calling the service dept of the former dealer who sold it to this dealer wholesale and told me all about its problems.) I'm into the color and it seems fairly rare on the 10th Gen, which I like.

please take a look at the pricing, carfax, etc and tell me what you guys think. Salesguy sent me a video of the interior and it looks very clean. (why is there a single photo on the website? I don't know. But I'm going to take a look tomorrow and will look for imperfections.)

Cretin90 fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Apr 25, 2018

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

There are more Mazdas in the sea if you want one.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
As much as I generally trust Honda to make a reliable car, I would not buy a first generation new platform, new engine, new transmission car until the second model year, which will receive a substantial production improvements package.

There are a lot more mazdas

Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

IRQ posted:

There are more Mazdas in the sea if you want one.

Literally

logis
Dec 30, 2004
Slippery Tilde
Looking at a 2018 Equinox. Opinions? Local dealer looks like it has an ok sale this weekend.

Currently drive a Trailblazer; like sitting high. Don't want a big suburban, but want some power. Safety should be decent. Hopefully something without too much maintenance.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
They're pretty mediocre, but if you like it I guess?
I strongly recommend driving all the other competition, I bet you like some of them better.

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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logis posted:

Looking at a 2018 Equinox. Opinions? Local dealer looks like it has an ok sale this weekend.

Currently drive a Trailblazer; like sitting high. Don't want a big suburban, but want some power. Safety should be decent. Hopefully something without too much maintenance.

It's not in the top half of vehicles in that class. I'd only get one if it's WAY cheaper than a Mazda CX-5, Honda CR-V, or Ford Edge.

Also look at the Hyundai / Kia crossovers, those are a great value.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
Unless you are compelled to buy GM product, do not buy the Equinox.

KingColliwog
May 15, 2003

Let's go droogs
I'm in the market for a mini van. I'm Canadian, Reliability/total cost of ownership is the most important thing to me and I will almost certainly buy a CPO from a dealership. Budget is 25k.

Currently I'm not sure between a 2013-2014 Toyota Sienna for around 25k with 80-90k km on it or a 2018 Kia Sedona with 30k km on it for around the same price.

I love Toyota and would keep buying their boring car forever (my Yaris is the bee's knees) but I'm thinking that 4 year of wear/improvement might just trump the reliability advantage... Especially with the warranty difference. Thoughts?

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
cpo is bullshit

KingColliwog
May 15, 2003

Let's go droogs
It doesn't seem to come at much of a premium vs the same car from a dealer.

I don't think I feel like I know enough to buy from a private seller

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002

KingColliwog posted:

Reliability/total cost of ownership
Edmunds used to keep track of that sort of thing, go look up some minivans.

In all reality, minivans get a whole lot of attention from manufacturers and there is a really stiff competition in that market segment. Some minivans are running around with 300k miles on original engine/transmission, across many brands except maybe Nissan.

Give Chrysler Pacifica/Town&Country a long hard look, they are outstanding minivans in my personal experience. Sienna is fine, and offers nothing other than slightly better resale value.

A Banana
Jun 11, 2013
I am an australian looking for a cheap used car to use for getting around on the weekend to places not well served by public transport and for my partner to use to learn how to drive.
Budget AU$3000 but I can bump it up if its going to make a significant difference.

Key points are:
Safety
Reliability
Working airconditioning.

4 door and enough space to fold down the rear seat and fit a bicycle in there would be a bonus.

Im guessing i should be looking at early 2000s holden commodores, mazda 3s etc but dont know if theres too many risks at that price point or if i can get a lot more for not much extra.
Main reasons i want to keep the price low is it being used as a learner car so i assume its going to get thrashed a bit. And theres a chance we'd move and our car usage patterns would change significantly sometime in the next couple of years.

The King of Swag
Nov 10, 2005

To escape the closure,
is to become the God of Swag.
Going to look at an '05 2.5T Outback XT later today; owner says it's going to need a timing belt soon (next 30k miles), and the car comes with a folder of all work done since it was new. Here's hoping it ends up being a gem: I am sick and tired of looking at cars by this point.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

A Banana posted:

I am an australian looking for a cheap used car to use for getting around on the weekend to places not well served by public transport and for my partner to use to learn how to drive.
Budget AU$3000 but I can bump it up if its going to make a significant difference.

Key points are:
Safety
Reliability
Working airconditioning.

4 door and enough space to fold down the rear seat and fit a bicycle in there would be a bonus.

Im guessing i should be looking at early 2000s holden commodores, mazda 3s etc but dont know if theres too many risks at that price point or if i can get a lot more for not much extra.
Main reasons i want to keep the price low is it being used as a learner car so i assume its going to get thrashed a bit. And theres a chance we'd move and our car usage patterns would change significantly sometime in the next couple of years.

I don't really know how poo poo works in AUS but for the US, by the time you get down to that range you have a couple of challenges:

1) Any car you buy for three grand is going to imminently require $500-2000 in work. Budget accordingly.
2) Nothing you can buy for $3,000 is particularly safe compared to modern cars. That's OK - people survived being driven around in Geo Trackers and poo poo, so it's not a guaranteed death sentence. If you are really worried about safety you should go newer and spend more money for something with side curtain airbags and stability/traction control. Make sure no matter what you buy you at least have driver and passenger airbags and ABS.
3) At this price point service history of the individual car matters more than the overall brand.

The King of Swag
Nov 10, 2005

To escape the closure,
is to become the God of Swag.
So I went ahead and purchased that '05 2.5T Outback XT, for $4500.

The bad:

  • Left-front CV axle isn't making noise, but boot is torn. PO has a Subaru shop invoice where they inspected it and suggested later replacement. This is something I can do easy.
  • There is a poo poo-load of old oil coating the bottom of the engine, as well as one side of the engine. Doesn't look like any fresh oil has leaked down in a while; car did not drip at all.
  • Paint is pretty toasted; clear-coat is starting to peel in spots, as well as turn milky, as well as spider-web cracking where panels face upward and get the brunt of direct sunlight all day.

The good:

  • The car came with a folder packed to the brim with its entire service history, going back to the original window sticker.
  • That oil leak I mentioned? Looks like it turned out to be a combination of leaking valve covers and oil cooler fittings. Were fixed by a Subaru shop, although I question why they didn't bother to clean up any oil except what they had to.
  • Head-gaskets and turbo given a clean bill of health just last month, in a vehicle inspection performed by aforementioned shop. Turbo was checked for play and any oil bypassing, with none found.
  • Clutch & flywheel are relatively new. Done ~10k miles ago.
  • Tires are new, done ~4k miles ago.

This car has had a lot of money spent on it in the last few years. Clutch & flywheel, wheel bearings, brakes twice, tires on all corners 3 times, and lots of general repair work, like the issues mentioned above. It's obvious this thing got drove hard, which makes perfect sense, as the guy said he's selling it on behalf of his son going to college in Wyoming, who's selling it because he wants the money to support his current car (which I can't remember what it is). That's ultimately why I went ahead and still bought it--it has been my experience that you can drive a car hard (and/or put a million miles on it) and have it be no worse for wear, if you're willing to stay on top and maintain it, replacing things as they wear out.

Also of course, because I climbed under the car and also test drove it, and not only did all the suspension and bushings look good, but the car drove great. No weird clunks or noises, and everything was nice and tight when throwing it about, trying to find any suspension or AWD issues. Trans super smooth with no crunchy syncros or vague shifts; engine smooth as silk, also with no weird noises.

Here's hoping this car ends up being a good one, and I didn't overlook something critical and make a huge mistake.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

The King of Swag posted:

Here's hoping this car ends up being a good one, and I didn't overlook something critical and make a huge mistake.

There's always the chance of something unexpected blowing up no matter how carefully you shop. Sounds like you did your homework and did the best you can, regardless.

I hope you enjoy the car for a long time!

The King of Swag
Nov 10, 2005

To escape the closure,
is to become the God of Swag.

Deteriorata posted:

There's always the chance of something unexpected blowing up no matter how carefully you shop. Sounds like you did your homework and did the best you can, regardless.

I hope you enjoy the car for a long time!

It's not exactly an *expensive* car, but I understandably wouldn't be happy if something blew up shortly after buying it. I just hope that the Subaru forums are drastically over-playing the common issues, which is something common you see in every forum. If you went by what Jeep forums said, you'd believe the 4.0 couldn't be kept cool and would explode if you didn't replace the OPDA with a revision aftermarket unit. But after personally owning a poo poo-load of Jeeps, driving a collective million miles between them, and taking into consideration everyone else I know that owns one, none of those have ever been an issue that has even cropped up, and I live in loving NV. It gets plenty drat hot here.

If you go by the Subaru forums, the 2.5T is a ticking time bomb if you don't religiously change the oil every 3750 miles with full synthetic, and remove the little banjo bolt oil filter before the turbo. Which sounds like a spectacularly stupid idea--if your turbo dies because the filter clogged and starved it of oil, then it's just going to die because you're allowing the crud to feed into the bearings. They make it sound like the cars have a 100% failure rate, but you could fool me considering how many are floating around on craigslist with high mileage, and still going for decent money. Same with the head-gaskets for the non-turbo 2.5; going by forums, it's 100% chance of failure every 80k miles, but the sheer number of the cars still on the road with 350k miles tells me otherwise.

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

So my 2013 Honda Accord got totalled by a distracted soccer mom running a red light and hitting me right on the front passenger tire. I'm looking for a commuter vehicle (I'm in south Texas). 16 miles each way to work, with 3-4x per month 250 mile roundtrips. Average 16-18k miles a year. Budget is $25-30k. The main problem is that I'm 6'5" and just barely fit in the Accord. Every sedan I've test driven either has my head brushing the roof (especially if the car has a sunroof), or my knees in the dash, even with the seat as far back and as low as possible. I'd rather not extend my budget to get a truck or an SUV I can fit in since mileage sucks and ride comfort goes way down. Any suggestions?

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
^^^^^
I'm 6'4" and drive a mazda 2. You're just going to need to test fit everything, because actual car size has nothing to do with whether it will fit big people.


The banjo bolt removal is a subaru tsb (maybe even quasi-recall), so I wouldn't call it that dumb. If you follow thr new OCI, you shouldn't need it.

My buddy had a line on a 280k obxt (like 2 grand). It was on engine 3 with 30k mi, and had like 50k on the new 5 speed.
I think the turbo was original though.

nm fucked around with this message at 18:53 on May 1, 2018

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

saintonan posted:

So my 2013 Honda Accord got totalled by a distracted soccer mom running a red light and hitting me right on the front passenger tire. I'm looking for a commuter vehicle (I'm in south Texas). 16 miles each way to work, with 3-4x per month 250 mile roundtrips. Average 16-18k miles a year. Budget is $25-30k. The main problem is that I'm 6'5" and just barely fit in the Accord. Every sedan I've test driven either has my head brushing the roof (especially if the car has a sunroof), or my knees in the dash, even with the seat as far back and as low as possible. I'd rather not extend my budget to get a truck or an SUV I can fit in since mileage sucks and ride comfort goes way down. Any suggestions?

There isn't much of a mileage penalty these days with the smaller/mid size CUV's out there. Your budget allows for plenty of choices, especially if you consider lightly used.

If you want a sedan, cool, no problem personal preference and all that, but newer CUV's these days can get pretty decent mileage and most are car based and quite comfortable. A CR-V is listed at 28/34 not far off the 30/38 of an Accord. CUV's have come a long way, and you're eliminating a lot of vehicles you may actually like right off the bat.

That or just embrace your inner Texan and buy an F-150.

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

skipdogg posted:

There isn't much of a mileage penalty these days with the smaller/mid size CUV's out there. Your budget allows for plenty of choices, especially if you consider lightly used.

If you want a sedan, cool, no problem personal preference and all that, but newer CUV's these days can get pretty decent mileage and most are car based and quite comfortable. A CR-V is listed at 28/34 not far off the 30/38 of an Accord. CUV's have come a long way, and you're eliminating a lot of vehicles you may actually like right off the bat.

That or just embrace your inner Texan and buy an F-150.

FWIW, when I wrote SUV I was thinking Tahoe/Suburban/Excursion land yacht types. I assumed that crossovers had cabins like sedans, but I'll try to check a few of those out to see if they have any more room than sedans do.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
Crossover cabins tend to be taller but as many have said, you are just going to have to try on a lot of cars. Carmax is good for this - you can just sit in a bunch of random poo poo and drive it, then search elsewhere.

Senor P.
Mar 27, 2006
I MUST TELL YOU HOW PEOPLE CARE ABOUT STUFF I DONT AND BE A COMPLETE CUNT ABOUT IT

Motronic posted:

The Ford 300 6 was available in a few pickups. Lots of those trucks are basically still going, since that was an industrial motor. There are tons of generators and airport towing vehicles still running on those things.

I think there were a few other gems like that, but yeah....for the most part you didn't see them in passenger vehicles. Not to mention just how badly pollution control devices robbed power back then, so basically all of the motors from the mid-70s until....sometime in the 80s.....are disappointing to say the least (900 pound 11 MPG V8s that can barely produce 200 HP).
Honestly has there ever been a "bad" inline-6?

(Fords 300 6 was developed over the course of what, 40 years?)

I have been thinking pretty hard recently about purchasing a early 1990s to final year (1997) Ford F-150 manual tranny, 4x4, with the Inline 6...

Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

Inline sixes are proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

OneTwentySix
Nov 5, 2007

fun
FUN
FUN


My current car is on death's door, and I need to get a new one fairly soon. Unfortunately, I know pretty much nothing about cars, or what to look for in a car. My last car was $3200 and cost a total of around $6,000 over seven years; I'm going to need to get rid of this, and have no idea where to start with it, either - it's a piece of garbage that needs a ton of work and can't imagine anyone wanting to buy it.

I have around $4,000 in my savings, and can potentially spare $100-200 on a loan per month; I definitely can't afford a new car. All I really care about are gas mileage, reliability, and that it doesn't look hideously ugly. I don't really know if I should be trying for another $3-4,000 vehicle or if I should look in the $4-8,000 range; is there financial sense in buying a more expensive vehicle in the long run?

I just really have no idea where to start - looking on craigslist, I don't know what to be aware of or any warning signs, or what's a good deal and what isn't. I don't know if I should try a dealership, or what to do at one, etc. I have a moderate commute each week (about 400 miles in two weeks on average), but I like to drive home to Wisconsin or to Florida (2,000 and 1,000 mile round trips) when I can.

I'm just completely clueless and don't really have anyone around that could help me; can someone help me find where/how to get started?

Casu Marzu
Oct 20, 2008

OneTwentySix posted:


I have around $4,000 in my savings, and can potentially spare $100-200 on a loan per month; I definitely can't afford a new car. All I really care about are gas mileage, reliability, and that it doesn't look hideously ugly.


Test drive a Prius to see if driving one makes you wanna yank the steering wheel and slam into a bridge pylon or not. If you are fine with the uh driving experience, it sounds like it would be a good fit for you.

I had my eye on them until I actually drove one for more than 30 minutes. Regardless of their reliability and fuel efficiency, I couldn't see myself driving 8 hours in one. A lot of people clearly are fine with it though.


Edit: ugh the only car that I've test driven so far that really floats my boat is the Mazda3. Trying to find a not beat to poo poo hatch with the skyactiv engine and under $12k has proven hard as hell around me.

Casu Marzu fucked around with this message at 18:05 on May 2, 2018

JUST MAKING CHILI
Feb 14, 2008
Sometime in the future I'd like to buy a 3rd generation GM pickup, but I'm not interested in paying new truck prices for a complete restoration.

At the same time, I don't want to bring a trailer because apartment living makes major restoration work nearly impossible. I would like something that runs decently, has 4-wheel drive, and wouldn't take much work to turn into a general purpose off-roader/load hauler/weekend toy.

Any suggestions on what to look for when buying? I've seen plenty of ratted out squarebodies on Craigslist (like this: https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/chevy-k20/6550349850.html) and want to avoid the less obvious problem trucks without paying $40k for this: https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ctd/d/1971-kx4-better-than-new/6574623781.html (yes, I realize that's a 2nd generation).

I'd like to pay under $5k for something that runs reliably but isn't spotless. K5s are probably out, too expensive, K10s and 20s are probably what I"m looking for. Would be hilarous to have a big 3+3 K30 though. I'd even consider old squarebody Suburbans.

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Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Senor P. posted:

I have been thinking pretty hard recently about purchasing a early 1990s to final year (1997) Ford F-150 manual tranny, 4x4, with the Inline 6...

The new F150 body style started in '96 IIRC. I know for a fact my 97 was. I think you need an OBS to get the 300-6.

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