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Awesome, thanks a lot. I'm taking notes, locating relevant Lynda videos, thinking up some possible deliverables. Would it be keeping with the thread's etiquette if I popped in with the occasional question as I put the class together?
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Flip Yr Wig posted:Awesome, thanks a lot. I'm taking notes, locating relevant Lynda videos, thinking up some possible deliverables. I read the bolded as "Lydia" and I was very confused. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxbz_WISOsY
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May 1, 2018 18:11
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EwokEntourage posted:Acrobat for making PDFs, bates numbering, redacting info, combining/splitting Lots of Acrobat for me. +how to deal with page splits and spacing in Word
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May 1, 2018 18:12
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EwokEntourage posted:Acrobat for making PDFs, bates numbering, redacting info, combining/splitting Adding exhibit stickers via PowerPoint. Actually, does anyone know a better program for adding exhibit stickers than PowerPoint? Using PowerPoint to intelligently make charts and graphs and other summaries of voluminous information (pursuant to ev rule 1006). Basic sideshow for opening and closing. For fun, have them overcome an objection to including photos of potentially prejudicial (and their potentially inadmissible) photos in opening slideshow. See if you can get someone from the case management software companies to teach a class.
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May 1, 2018 18:14
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Hell yeah time to take a property exam!!!
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May 1, 2018 18:17
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Yeah it was absolutely a job crushing pro se inmates when they file complaints.
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May 1, 2018 19:06
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Lol https://twitter.com/big_cases/status/991042433927536640?s=21 https://twitter.com/titusgraeme/status/991046413181075456?s=21 Phil Moscowitz fucked around with this message at 19:52 on May 1, 2018 |
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May 1, 2018 19:49
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:It's an in though. And that’s how i pitched it to them. He had me fill out some background check/retirement system paperwork so i assume they’re recommending me as a yes with the package up to the AG. He asked me to email him a writing sample so i sent my upper level writing paper that FSU requires all students do to graduate. Mine was on sovereign citizens, so it is actually relevant to the job. And i just re-read it and it’s not awful. Told me if i get a phone call in two months from pam bondi that it isn’t one of my friends playing a prank and that i’m getting an offer.
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May 1, 2018 20:16
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May 1, 2018 20:34
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Flip Yr Wig posted:Awesome, thanks a lot. I'm taking notes, locating relevant Lynda videos, thinking up some possible deliverables. Would it be keeping with the thread's etiquette if I popped in with the occasional question as I put the class together? How to effectively use Microsoft Word styles so that you can fix the document styling easily after everyone else fucks it up when they edit your draft. (I can't imagine anyone would object to you asking for more guidance along these lines.)
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May 1, 2018 20:43
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Kalman posted:How to effectively use Microsoft Word styles so that you can fix the document styling easily after everyone else fucks it up when they edit your draft. My next questions will probably be more along the lines of what features of Clio translate to other case management stuff, what level of detail to get into about litigation and case analytics, cloud storage security, but I'll wait until I can really even articulate the questions.
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May 1, 2018 21:09
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Look Sir Droids posted:The AG makes offers herself? I would be just two steps below her, so yeah. My boss would be one of the state deputy assistant AGs and is a direct report of hers. We'd be working in the same building. No one gets to have AG anywhere in their name unless she actually signs off on the hiring.
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May 1, 2018 21:21
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Cool. Pre-gently caress your boss though.
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May 1, 2018 21:25
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The guy interviewing me made a point to talk about the meeting with inmate portion of the job. When an inmate files a complaint, eventually one of us will have to go sit down and interview and/or depose various people including inmates at the various prisons around the state. He said that he's had some people quit both immediately before and after they had gone to a prison for an interview and then commented that I didn't look like the type of person that would be bothered by that. I'm not sure whether I should be insulted or complimented that he thinks I would be comfortable talking to convicts.
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May 1, 2018 21:26
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Look Sir Droids posted:Cool. Pre-gently caress your boss though.  I'm sure that I've bitched enough about her on this message board that if she had an account with archives there's no way she'd hire me.
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May 1, 2018 21:27
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I think I might wear that with a badge of honor if it happened. Denied job by state AG for shitposting on a dead comedy forum.
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May 1, 2018 21:28
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Flip Yr Wig posted:I'm an academic law librarian who has been called on to put together an upcoming legal practice technology class. It's a first for our school, and despite whatever grasp I have on legal bibliography and whatnot, I haven't worked in a firm before. I'm not completely starting from scratch at this point; I know more-or-less what software I'll need to go over and some of the key principles to talk about. Things for word: redlining, importance of version control, automated cross-references (if transactional), format painter, find and replace, how to create hotkeys. Large firms have fancy add-ins, too, so just note their existence because I don’t really ever need to worry about styles or tables of contents. Things for Excel: VLOOKUP, absolute v. relative references, I use excel to double check deadline calculations all the time, sorting and filtering. PDF: bookmarks, OCR’ing text, combining/extracting pages and other good stuff to know if it’s late and assistants are not available. Other things I’d consider adding are PACER, Secretary of State websites, Relativity, and DMS functionality. The main gap I see is knowing how to navigate/find stuff in the DMS. If you’re at a large-ish firm, you should basically never need to start a document from scratch. Also great for finding intel on opposing counsel and the presiding judge.
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Just saw someone that went to my law school is now an Assistant AG in the Northern Marianas. Shout out, island lawyers.
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Omerta posted:Large firms have fancy add-ins, too, so just note their existence because I don’t really ever need to worry about styles or tables of contents. Every single one I've ever seen is massively inferior to (and harder to use than) the built in style/ToC functionality, though.
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Flip Yr Wig posted:My next questions will probably be more along the lines of what features of Clio translate to other case management stuff, what level of detail to get into about litigation and case analytics, cloud storage security, but I'll wait until I can really even articulate the questions. Speaking of this, can anyone recommend good case management software to look at for a smallish firm?
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My mom and her partner use Clio, not sure how well it scales tho
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May 1, 2018 23:48
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Flip Yr Wig posted:I'm an academic law librarian who has been called on to put together an upcoming legal practice technology class. It's a first for our school, and despite whatever grasp I have on legal bibliography and whatnot, I haven't worked in a firm before. I'm not completely starting from scratch at this point; I know more-or-less what software I'll need to go over and some of the key principles to talk about. Assign Matthew Butterick’s Typography for Lawyers. This covers Word use and how to make your documents not look like hot garbage.
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May 2, 2018 00:15
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Also never assign anything from Bryan Garner.
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May 2, 2018 00:59
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EwokEntourage posted:Speaking of this, can anyone recommend good case management software to look at for a smallish firm? I use CLIO at my office. While expensive (ugh so expensive), I really think it offers the best suite when it comes to billing, cloud storage, etc. I've asked around for alternatives to CLIO but they're all hot garbage. Their app is horrible though for some reason. Like, way worse than the actual site to the point I just pull up the site instead of wasting time using the app.
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Had someone casually slip into a FOIA request today that at this time they were definitely not considering suicide. They also CCed over 500 state gov email addresses including I think every public email in the state legislature. Did he create joinder with all of us???
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Nonexistence posted:Had someone casually slip into a FOIA request today that at this time they were definitely not considering suicide. They also CCed over 500 state gov email addresses including I think every public email in the state legislature. Did he create joinder with all of us??? Maybe? Should probably send out the police for a wellness check. Whenever someone threatens suicide at us, we gotta call the cops on them.
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sullat posted:Maybe? Should probably send out the police for a wellness check. Whenever someone threatens suicide at us, we gotta call the cops on them. Same. Those mass CC's are annoying.
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Got an email with this title from a recruiter and immediately thought of this thread: "Rear opportunity to be groomed for partnership by the Global Chair of the Practice Group"
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May 2, 2018 18:31
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I guess that’s why they talked about my past as a newspaper editor in my interview.
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May 2, 2018 18:51
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Entry level wages here in town seem to be between 40-50k for starting attorneys. On the plus side, i can negotiate zero retirement and healthcare benefits with the private employer as a way to increase my takehome but still, just I could have probably just got a one year MS in applied economics and already make more than double or triple what i’m looking to make starting out.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Entry level wages here in town seem to be between 40-50k for starting attorneys. Are there a bunch of applied economics jobs in your town? Most attorneys making big money from the start work in major urban centers, as do most econ people, I suspect. Also, should have read the OP!!!
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My observation of state jobs for attorneys (Tennessee) looks similar. 45-55k range. But yeah, economists or financial analysts for departments or the Dept of Revenue are typically 65k+.
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Look Sir Droids posted:My observation of state jobs for attorneys (Tennessee) looks similar. 45-55k range. But yeah, economists or financial analysts for departments or the Dept of Revenue are typically 65k+. Exactly. State level financial analyst spots are 10-20k higher than the respective entry level attorney spots not to mention the difference in the private market. A lot of the non-state law jobs around here for entry level attorneys pay less than the state does. The max pay for any state position so far is 49,9.
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Vox Nihili posted:Are there a bunch of applied economics jobs in your town? Most attorneys making big money from the start work in major urban centers, as do most econ people, I suspect. Oh i did just remarking cause it’s funny to me. I remember all of the conversations i had here prior to starting school. Thankfully I really don’t give a gently caress about the pay (i’m never going to be rich and don’t care about it) and i’m glad to be able to help out the fellow vets and such so far.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Oh i did just remarking cause it’s funny to me. I remember all of the conversations i had here prior to starting school. Thankfully I really don’t give a gently caress about the pay (i’m never going to be rich and don’t care about it) and i’m glad to be able to help out the fellow vets and such so far. Mr. Nice! posted:Yeah it was absolutely a job crushing pro se inmates when they file complaints. Sad commentary on how we treat veterans in this country.
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May 2, 2018 21:56
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Last law school final tonight. Should have done a masters. 
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Toona the Cat posted:Last law school final tonight. Should have done a masters. Plenty of years left to burn with more schooling. You could even meet a new study partner.
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I'm honestly thinking of going back to school because my (somewhat limited) job searching has proved pretty fruitless. Maybe something economy or accounting related, since you can't sneeze around here as a econ/business sleazeball without someone offering a tissue and a job. I'd need something where I could sort of combine it with my master's degree and attourney experience though, and I'm not really sure what would be best since I also loving hate number crunching. At least I have a sweet new avatar courtesy of me berating scandigoons for opining about law-adjacent stuff.
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