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Jaxyon posted:Yeah, "dems are basically as bad as Republicans" I make less than fifteen grand a year and can only survive because I'm on Medicaid, I still feel comfortable saying they're both dogshit
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Jaxyon posted:Have you considered.....maybe a lot of politicians are corrupt? Here's my plan: don't support them
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May 2, 2018 00:58
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:I make less than fifteen grand a year and can only survive because I'm on Medicaid, I still feel comfortable saying they're both dogshit That's just sad, since one party would literally cut the thing keeping you alive and one expanded it, and you can't see the difference. So as for some of the most reliable Democrat votes, black women, do you feel they're stupid, or suckers?
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May 2, 2018 01:02
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Jaxyon posted:That's just sad, since one party would literally cut the thing keeping you alive and one expanded it, and you can't see the difference. Neither unless they start proselytizing at me
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May 2, 2018 01:03
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Neither unless they start proselytizing at me But explain their vote, since you've clearly hit on the obvious, intelligent path. Are you smarter than folks, or less gullible?
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May 2, 2018 01:06
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Jaxyon posted:But explain their vote, since you've clearly hit on the obvious, intelligent path. They believe a thing I don't and I don't really care as long as they don't start judging me for it
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May 2, 2018 01:12
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:They believe a thing I don't and I don't really care as long as they don't start judging me for it But why? Are they confused? Are you smarter? More informed?
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Weirdly enough, though, I think you're a stupid motherfucker because you're confronting those beliefs head on and having them challenged and decidinf to die for them and also judge people who don't agree with you
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May 2, 2018 01:13
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Jaxyon posted:But why? Are they confused? Are you smarter? Why do you presume I'm judging them as a default state
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Why do you presume I'm judging them as a default state You say your idea makes sense. Why does a major voting block of the party, that presumably the Dems do not care about, keep voting for them?
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May 2, 2018 01:14
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"I live in poverty and only survive because of medicaid" Hmm. Powerful move. But how can I make him seem racist...
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May 2, 2018 01:14
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People have life experiences that lead them to believe things and I would no more heap scorn on someone who votes Dem and doesn't make a stink about it than someone who's deeply religious but doesn't evangelize or tell me I'm going to hell
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May 2, 2018 01:15
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Jaxyon posted:You say your idea makes sense. Why does a major voting block of the party, that presumably the Dems do not care about, keep voting for them? I don't know why don't you ask them
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May 2, 2018 01:15
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Jaxyon are you smarter or less gullible than BENGHAZI 2 here?
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May 2, 2018 01:16
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It doesnt really matter what the answer is because Im going to call you an idiot regardless but I want to see if youll walk into this blatant trap that youve constructed
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May 2, 2018 01:17
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Love when libs presume that because they're sur of they're beliefs leftists are just as judgy as they are
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May 2, 2018 01:17
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Control Volume posted:It doesnt really matter what the answer is because Im going to call you an idiot but I want to see if youll walk into this blatant trap that youve constructed Nonanswers are the best because you can watch the person melt down
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May 2, 2018 01:18
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what a shock that the man who advocates voting dem no matter what would use minority groups as a cudgel to attack the left
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May 2, 2018 01:18
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WHY WON'T YOU JUST FALL FOR IT I scream as I try it again and again
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Liberalism is a church
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:People have life experiences that lead them to believe things and I would no more heap scorn on someone who votes Dem and doesn't make a stink about it than someone who's deeply religious but doesn't evangelize or tell me I'm going to hell So you cling tighter to your belief when challenged, but otherwise have no strong feeling on the subject?
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May 2, 2018 01:20
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~screams how stupid the 'libs'* are for falling for Dem poo poo~ "um...I don't judge people, liberal" *anyone who disagrees with me
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May 2, 2018 01:22
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Gah! The gestalt entity of forums leftists has been revealed and attacked. regroup
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Control Volume posted:It doesnt really matter what the answer is because Im going to call you an idiot regardless but I want to see if youll walk into this blatant trap that youve constructed It's not really a trap when falling for it or avoiding point out the same problem
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May 2, 2018 01:23
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ive seen the "neoliberal doesnt mean anything but person who disagrees with me" defense but the "liberal doesn't mean anything but person who disagrees with me" is a new one
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May 2, 2018 01:24
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Jaxyon posted:~screams how stupid the 'libs'* are for falling for Dem poo poo~ As opposed to what you're doing here,
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May 2, 2018 01:24
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judging people is cool, good, necessary and if you don't judge Jaxyon as a moron I judge you as one
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May 2, 2018 01:25
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Jaxyon posted:So you cling tighter to your belief when challenged, but otherwise have no strong feeling on the subject? I mean my belief was challenged, in fall of 2016, and I changed my worldview accordingly
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May 2, 2018 01:25
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Jaxyon posted:It's not really a trap when falling for it or avoiding point out the same problem Instead of your moronic version of the socratic method, how about you just spit out the point instead of trying to conjure up some sort of sick own
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May 2, 2018 01:25
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:As opposed to what you're doing here, I never said I didn't judge people. Because that would be ridiculous given my posts in the thread and but lol here you are.
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May 2, 2018 01:26
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if he had a point he would have tried to make it long ago
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May 2, 2018 01:26
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Jaxyon posted:I never said I didn't judge people. Because that would be ridiculous given my posts in the thread and but lol here you are. I mean I specifically said I made exceptions for evangelists
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May 2, 2018 01:27
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But seriously is Benghazi 2 stupid or gullible, and also could you post the point of this line of conversation so I can use it against you? Because I have absolutely no clue where you were going with it
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Control Volume posted:Instead of your moronic version of the socratic method, how about you just spit out the point instead of trying to conjure up some sort of sick own What sick own? It's not even clever. The is the most basic poo poo ever. The point was that you got people claiming to not judge people. People claiming the only smart move is their way, and that blaming voters is bad. So I asked you guys to explain why a core voting block of the party votes for Dems and to answer that you either need to blame voters, or imply they're confused, ignorant, or stupid. It doesn't matter if you avoid any response because you end up saying stupid poo poo like "I don't judge people" when you've spent pages doing exactly that or "I don't proselytize" after doing exactly that. Obviously, people think the dem base is stupid or gullible. It feels good to feel smarter. That doesn't mean it's true. I think some people in this thread are idiots, but not because they disagree with me. Rather, HOW they disagree with me.
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Control Volume posted:But seriously is Benghazi 2 stupid or gullible, and also could you post the point of this line of conversation so I can use it against you? Because I have absolutely no clue where you were going with it That actually I'm just privileged and thus can make this claim because I'm latently racist
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Jaxyon posted:I think some people in this thread are idiots, but not because they disagree with me. Rather, HOW they disagree with me. 
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self unaware posted:if he had a point he would have tried to make it long ago I actually posted my whole voting strategy yesterday but the LIBS BAD team didn't like it.
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Jaxyon posted:What sick own? It's not even clever. The is the most basic poo poo ever. People said dont blame the voters, and then you asked them to explain why a core voting bloc votes that way, and the only logical options are to blame voters or to... blame... voters.......?
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Jaxyon posted:I actually posted my whole voting strategy yesterday but the LIBS BAD team didn't like it. That's because this: quote:My job is to vote for the least work option in close elections, because one of those 2 is going to win, because that's how politics works right now in the US. I don't like it, but that doesn't change that. Is demonstrably false. Jaxyon posted:It means you've checked out and they don't have to pursue your vote. The argument that third party voters have "checked out" is just absurd on its face, they are voting for a reason. The fact that Dems don't want to co-op leftist third parties is their problem, not mine. FWIW the reason is because you'll keep voting for them no matter how rightward they go. and just lol at anyone who voted for hillary clinton in 2016 and calls themselves a socialist 90s Rememberer fucked around with this message at 01:36 on May 2, 2018 |
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Jaxyon posted:So as for some of the most reliable Democrat votes, black women, do you feel they're stupid, or suckers? Do you consider black voters that voted in 2012 but stayed home in 2016 stupid or suckers? https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/many-in-milwaukee-neighborhood-didnt-vote-and-dont-regret-it.html quote:“We got to figure this out,” said Cedric Fleming, one of the barbers. “We got a gangster in the chair now,” he said, referring to President-elect Donald J. Trump.
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