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Hahaha...I am looking at a kickstarter pilot with the callsign of Scrub whose stats are 9 tac and 2 everything else. I'm pretty sure I need to hire him. His backstory is that his family thought he sucked, he barely met expectations, he graduated bottom of his class and then the shipped him to some Periphery planet to supervise doctors and then when some attack happened he jumped in an empty mech and showed his aptitude for tactics.
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It's not like Adam Jensen has any future employment
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May 5, 2018 19:43
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Tempest_56 posted:My time was more spent spamming .n and changing headings by single degrees This describes my Battletech MUX time too. Consequently I got really good at driving mechs (really just tanks and tow vehicles) but poo poo at actually shooting things.
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May 5, 2018 19:50
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Woooowwwww. 4 headshot injuries in one mission before any of my mech armor was even critical.
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TMMadman posted:Hahaha...I am looking at a kickstarter pilot with the callsign of Scrub whose stats are 9 tac and 2 everything else. No lie, I hired a generic who was a 2/2/2/8 and never regretted it. Put them in your missile boat and they'll outpace everyone in a hurry since it's so cheap to get them up to a respectable 4/4/4/[whatever their stupid-high tactics score is] Tactics is the best tree, fite me. Being able to delay, let the enemy advance on you, then attack them twice with most of your forces is great.
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May 5, 2018 19:56
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Finally bit the bullet and reloaded a save before a mission. Lost 2 pilots in 2 turns to headshots. Not even from SRM or LRM boats, just standard attacks with laser or whatever. Took 7 headshots in two turns, 3+ evasion be damned.
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May 5, 2018 19:57
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Axetrain posted:Also lol at the voice actor for Ostergaard, when he showed up I was like "who spilled Deus Ex in my Battletech". I'm more surprised that Adam Jensen was the earth spy in The Expanse!
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May 5, 2018 20:00
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Wizard Styles posted:Mission begins, Sumire drops the squad off next to a lake. Started a mission in a snowy field. Glitch: "I wonder if we'll see bears!"  Glitch is the best. 
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May 5, 2018 20:03
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Boy howdy that got bad. Had 9 or so months of funds saved, my company was doing alright. Jump into an Assassination mission. Easily clear the first side of reinforcements, target drops in with the second group. Last time I did an Assassination the target booked it as soon as I killed all his buddies, so I start focusing him. Whoops, bad idea, they get lucky and kill my new guy because I'm ignoring the group to focus on this Heavy. Whatever, my bad, I'm still good here. Keep fighting, tear down two of his four buddies. Suddenly my MC gets hit and gets a CT destroyed, out for the count. gently caress. Full health to zero there, that was also my bad. I should have been paying more attention. Whatever, it's Glitch and Dekker vs a Spider, Wolverine and a Thunderbolt, both at full health/armor, both in Mediums. This'll be easy. Jump Glitch out to shoot her PPC, and suddenly the Wolverine DFAs her. Instant Headshot crit, she's dead. Dekker turns and kills the Spider, then kills the Wolverine. Thunderbolt is at 50% structure, Dekker is still doing great, I can handle this. This got real hosed but I can handle this. Nope Thunderbolt runs up, punches Dekker in the head and we get a forced retreat. It'll take 4-5 months for everyone to heal up. Glitch stays dead. Costs of repairing all my mechs eats away all my funds. By the time they are healed we'll be bankrupt. Good game.
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PoptartsNinja posted:No lie, I hired a generic who was a 2/2/2/8 and never regretted it. Put them in your missile boat and they'll outpace everyone in a hurry since it's so cheap to get them up to a respectable 4/4/4/[whatever their stupid-high tactics score is] Plus the called shot bonus. And indirect penalty reduction. And the minimal range reduction....
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OddObserver posted:Plus the called shot bonus. And indirect penalty reduction. And the minimal range reduction.... Tactics 2 / Guts 1 seems like the pro choice. Pity I wasn't smart enough to take it on any of my dudes.
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May 5, 2018 20:10
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Gunnery 2/Guts 1 pro tier pilot. Bring 4 awesomes and four pilots with those skills. Breach shot PPCs on everyone in range every round. 
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OddObserver posted:Plus the called shot bonus. And indirect penalty reduction. And the minimal range reduction.... You can get all of those along with Gun2/Guts1 fwiw
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I don't think there's sufficient appreciation in this thread for how loving rad the OST for this game is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfqy_Lsu_3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkNnunHW7IA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4sdpMcYuxQ Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 20:31 on May 5, 2018 |
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May 5, 2018 20:28
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Breach shot is great but you are splitting damage. Tactical Mastery has its place for making sure that your Assault goes before all their Assaults, which is great for having a King Crab pop out of cover and double tap something in the chest.
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:Finally bit the bullet and reloaded a save before a mission. Lost 2 pilots in 2 turns to headshots. Not even from SRM or LRM boats, just standard attacks with laser or whatever. Took 7 headshots in two turns, 3+ evasion be damned. Tried it again and a mech walked up and destroyed my PCs head with a punch the round after we made visual contact. This is fine.
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May 5, 2018 20:35
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The gunnery skills are great until the very end of the campaign when you mostly just want to drop rediculous alpha strike CT shots on everyone, at which point either piloting or tactics are generally better (tactics IMO, tactical mastery is great).
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May 5, 2018 20:35
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Alchenar posted:Breach shot is great but you are splitting damage. Tactical Mastery has its place for making sure that your Assault goes before all their Assaults, which is great for having a King Crab pop out of cover and double tap something in the chest. To be fair lets say the enemy is braced, the hypothetical awesome can shoot 2 PPC's at one target to do the same damage for double the heat, or hit two seperate targets for full damage. You do the same damage to one target, but have the added bonus of hurting another.
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May 5, 2018 20:38
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You can't use called shots with multi targeting, though.
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May 5, 2018 20:42
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Great Beer posted:Gunnery 2/Guts 1 pro tier pilot. Bring 4 awesomes and four pilots with those skills. Breach shot PPCs on everyone in range every round.
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May 5, 2018 20:44
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What I love about the tactics tree is you get all the good stuff (min range, called shot bonus, reduced indirect fire penalty) without having to take the mediocre abilities. 
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May 5, 2018 20:46
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The beauty of Multishot/Breach is that you should theoretically quickly learn what'll do what to what mechs. So if you do run into a situation where, let's say you have a Thunderbolt with a CT that's real low, bad structure, a broken arm, etc you can instead just focus a single AC10 on him knowing it'll kill him. Maybe putting a laser into the mix as well for insurance. But then you can plug your other AC10/other lasers into starting on the next guy, which'll set him up for your other teammates to finish off. Rather then having to just focus on the guy with 3% health remaining and "wasting" a turn. It's also real good for LRM boats, because if you have MS/SL/TM you get to go VERY first ( and you can also do some reserve fuckery to go twice. ), and you can just loving rip everyone's evasion away, then blast them again before your team can start ripping into them.
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May 5, 2018 20:54
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Only stumbled upon this today and it looks fantastic. Does anyone remember a mid 90s game called Missionforce: Cyberstorm? Am I right to think this is in that vein? That’s one of my favourite games of all time.
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May 5, 2018 20:57
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kaesarsosei posted:Only stumbled upon this today and it looks fantastic. Does anyone remember a mid 90s game called Missionforce: Cyberstorm? Am I right to think this is in that vein? That’s one of my favourite games of all time.  Yeah, its pretty similar. Cyberstorm 2 is one of my all time faves.
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Lancer (Bulwark, Multi, Breach) definitely seems like the best all-around skill set, but tactics is useful enough that I generally want at least one Vanguard. Piloting is the only tree that feels weak to me, but maybe that's because I don't tend to use lights or melee enough for Ace Pilot to be worth a drat.
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kaesarsosei posted:Only stumbled upon this today and it looks fantastic. Does anyone remember a mid 90s game called Missionforce: Cyberstorm? Am I right to think this is in that vein? That’s one of my favourite games of all time. Boto remembers, 
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Okay, why do I have a 2% called shot chance to hit heads, but enemies hit my head twice a mission minimum?
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Jack2142 posted:To be fair lets say the enemy is braced, the hypothetical awesome can shoot 2 PPC's at one target to do the same damage for double the heat, or hit two seperate targets for full damage. You do the same damage to one target, but have the added bonus of hurting another. There's plenty of instances where the enemy isn't braced and you want to take them down hard. My endgame squad was two guys with 2 Guns/1 Guts, one 1 Guns/2 Tactics and one 1 Guts/2 Tactics Also you don't shoot at the enemy when they're braced and you don't have breaching, you either focus fire on something else or you deny line of sight and sprint for a better position.
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Nasgate posted:Okay, why do I have a 2% called shot chance to hit heads, but enemies hit my head twice a mission minimum? The enemy shoots your four mechs more than you shoot the enemy, thus your mechs catch random headshots more often Called shot chances don't really enter into this
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Nasgate posted:Okay, why do I have a 2% called shot chance to hit heads, but enemies hit my head twice a mission minimum? 
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Nasgate posted:Okay, why do I have a 2% called shot chance to hit heads, but enemies hit my head twice a mission minimum? You can explain some of the discrepancy with the fact that the enemy attacks more often since the player is usually outnumbered and it's not always possible to break enemy formations up enough to finish all of them off piecemeal. But not all of it.
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Emy posted:You can't use called shots with multi targeting, though. You can't hit multiple targets with called shots
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Wizard Styles posted:I'm nearly convinced by now that enemies are just straight up more likely to hit the head. People have extensively examined the contact code, it's just confirmation bias my dudes
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May 5, 2018 21:23
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Piloting works well on jumpy heavy mechs and can do well on jump-capable assaults as well, as long as you never stop jumping. 5-6 evasion pips on an assault mech is pretty nice. Also the prevalence of head hits to players seems to be mostly due to AI LRM spam. Indirect fire seems to have an elevated head hit chance in my experience, whether it's the player or the AI on the receiving end.
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Headshots are base 1% chance and if you are always fighting 4v8 or more than you should expect to see twice as many received headshots than you deal out per mission.
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I have refit my Firestarter with 6 MGs because it consistently takes both torsos off anything stupid enough to store ammo in both torsos with backstab jumps.
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Rygar201 posted:People have extensively examined the contact code, it's just confirmation bias my dudes Yeah, RNG is RNG. I had missions where I had to reload because of literally dozens of head shots slowly killing all my pilots, followed by the rematch turning into a cakewalk due to the enemy mechs violently exploding as soon as a single hit touched them. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. 
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Night10194 posted:I have refit my Firestarter with 6 MGs because it consistently takes both torsos off anything stupid enough to store ammo in both torsos with backstab jumps. So basically every mech with ammo because the AI drives stock and all the stock builds have ammo crammed in their torsos for some reason.
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Skippy McPants posted:So basically every mech with ammo because the AI drives stock and all the stock builds have ammo crammed in their torsos for some reason. The secret power of MGs is that they are forged of pure ammunition explosions.
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Eej posted:Headshots are base 1% chance and if you are always fighting 4v8 or more than you should expect to see twice as many received headshots than you deal out per mission. Which is not terribly likely. And the game does fudge rolls, so I wouldn't put giving enemies a headshot bonus to force mechwarrior rotation past it. But if people really have actually looked into the code to such an extent as to be able to say that's not the case, well, confirmation bias it is I guess.
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