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Zuul the Cat posted:Chapters of the Adeptus Astartes Challenge - update 1! I've always loved Revilers and SOM. Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 01:10 on May 6, 2018 |
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May 6, 2018 01:07
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I played against a Leviathan Dreadnought for the first time today. They’re, uh, pretty good it turns out. Turn 1 it killed my Sicaran from full health, turn 2 killed all of my Inceptors and a few Hellblasters, and then turn 3 with a single would remaining killed six Sanguinary Guard, a full squad of Company Vets and then merked a Librarian on overwatch after it failed to smite the last wound off.
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May 6, 2018 01:23
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Picked up Know No Fear today to convert all of the Primaris into Deathwatch mans. I didn't realize that some of the Easy-Build stuff had shoulder pads sculpted directly onto the bodies. That took a lot longer than I wanted to bother with it. But in the end, I have a product that I'm reasonably happen enough with. Please forgive my lovely-rear end picture, I only took one while I was at the FLGS building and I didn't feel like getting all dozen of them back out when I got home.   They're all cleaned up much better than that. Nine of them are still headless, though, since I hate the Primaris helmet and have about a million heads from other Marines that I like better. Hellblasters will be getting beakies, everybody else will be getting whatever I think looks coolest. Intercessor Sergeant got the Deathwatch Mk III helmet on the upgrade sprue. With the completion of these guys from a modelling perspective, I'm up to: 1x Watch Master 1x Librarian 1x Watch Captain (Artemis, technically) 1x Gravis Captain 2x 5-man Killteams 1x 5-man Intercessor/Fortis Killteam 1x 5-man Hellblaster/Fortis supplemental 1x Inceptor for the Fortis Killteam 1x Venerable Dreadnought and a few of the Paint-and-Take Speeders that this guy was unloading for cheap that I didn't have anything better to do with.
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May 6, 2018 01:28
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Pendent posted:I played against a Leviathan Dreadnought for the first time today. They’re, uh, pretty good it turns out. Turn 1 it killed my Sicaran from full health, turn 2 killed all of my Inceptors and a few Hellblasters, and then turn 3 with a single would remaining killed six Sanguinary Guard, a full squad of Company Vets and then merked a Librarian on overwatch after it failed to smite the last wound off. Gonna take a wild guess and say dual storm cannon arrays?
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May 6, 2018 01:29
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Artum posted:Gonna take a wild guess and say dual storm cannon arrays? It was the Chaos version so they were Butcher Cannons, but yes. The hellforged flamers were also really nasty
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May 6, 2018 01:31
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Pendent posted:It was the Chaos version so they were Butcher Cannons, but yes. The hellforged flamers were also really nasty I fought precisely that and yeah they're loving horrible.
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May 6, 2018 01:47
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Immanentized posted:Question re: charge phase and the Custodian Stooping Dive stratagem- AFAIK, Mind Worm trumps all fight first abilities. I don't think there's an ambiguity in "...may only be chosen to fight in the Fight phase after all other eligible units have fought, even if they have charged or have an ability that would allow them to fight first." It also says "This effect lasts until the end of your turn." So yes, it would last until his turn is done and your turn starts.
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May 6, 2018 02:09
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If a unit is already within 1 inch of an enemy unit, it it able to use its pistols to fire overwatch against a second charging unit? I played someone this week who swore it was so but I have never ever heard of this. He tried to show me in the rules but it was one of those edge cases at best.
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May 6, 2018 02:09
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Beerdeer posted:If a unit is already within 1 inch of an enemy unit, it it able to use its pistols to fire overwatch against a second charging unit? I played someone this week who swore it was so but I have never ever heard of this. He tried to show me in the rules but it was one of those edge cases at best. "A model can fire a Pistol even if there are enemy units within 1" of its own unit, but it must target the closest enemy unit. In such circumstances, the model can shoot its Pistol even if other friendly units are within 1" of the same enemy unit." Pistols must target the closest enemy unit. If you have a model that is part of a unit that is in combat, but that model is technically closer to a model from the charging unit than they are to a model from the unit already in combat, then it can shoot overwatch at the charging model. This criteria is evaluated per model, I'm pretty sure.
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May 6, 2018 02:12
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The rules for overwatch explicitly say not if there's something within 1" of you, completely unrelated to the usual rules about shooting if something is within 1" so no that guys a dumbass.
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May 6, 2018 02:15
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Maneck posted:AFAIK, Mind Worm trumps all fight first abilities. I don't think there's an ambiguity in "...may only be chosen to fight in the Fight phase after all other eligible units have fought, even if they have charged or have an ability that would allow them to fight first." Thanks! Pretty much as I figured, with the charge interrupt still occurring within the opponents turn.
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May 6, 2018 02:28
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Thanks much. That wasn’t his most egregious error but it stuck with me.
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May 6, 2018 02:28
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So is Deathwatch the type of thing you're gonna see 2,000 point armies of, or is it something people might use as like an auxiliary force, like bring 1200 points of some other Imperium chapter, then a detachment of say, 800 points of Deathwatch? I've got these Dark Imperium Primaris marines waiting to be assembled and I'm really interested in Deathwatch since so much of my local scene is xenos
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May 6, 2018 02:55
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TheBigAristotle posted:So is Deathwatch the type of thing you're gonna see 2,000 point armies of, or is it something people might use as like an auxiliary force, like bring 1200 points of some other Imperium chapter, then a detachment of say, 800 points of Deathwatch? I'm going to be running mine as 1000-1200ish points for mine, but it'll still be the bulk of my army.
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May 6, 2018 03:02
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TheBigAristotle posted:So is Deathwatch the type of thing you're gonna see 2,000 point armies of, or is it something people might use as like an auxiliary force, like bring 1200 points of some other Imperium chapter, then a detachment of say, 800 points of Deathwatch? Is there a reason why they wouldn't be a complete stand alone army?
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May 6, 2018 03:20
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Is there a reason why they wouldn't be a complete stand alone army? They're still Marines, and their tanks while decent in their own right don't get their Chapter Tactics. Guard Does It Better(tm).
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May 6, 2018 03:22
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Strobe posted:They're still Marines, and their tanks while decent in their own right don't get their Chapter Tactics. Guard Does It Better(tm). Ohhhh okay. But that's a generic space marine issue, not a specific deathwatch issue, right?
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May 6, 2018 03:26
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Ohhhh okay. But that's a generic space marine issue, not a specific deathwatch issue, right? The issue becomes exacerbated the more elite the army is. I would expect mono deathwatch to work for friendlies just like mono ba, but that competitively it'll need to be the hammer for a guard anvil.
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May 6, 2018 03:27
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I bought my Deathwatch explicitly as a ally for my Imperial Guard. Mostly for Inquisitional Fluff and I'm going to enjoy the painting challenge of it. They really feel like the great "Ally" army as you can tune them to whatever you need. In my case, it is going to be deepstriked or Corvus deployed unit of Smash-Face Marines while my Guard shoot and tank it out with an Inquisitor "tut-tutting" in the background. I'm a completely casual player but I imagine that Deathwatch is going to have some hard counters, particularly against lots of tanks. I played a few games against Index Deathwatch and the running theme were my guardfolk were slaughtered wholesale while my Leman Russes and Hellhounds ran havoc over his army.
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May 6, 2018 03:43
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Strobe posted:They're still Marines, and their tanks while decent in their own right don't get their Chapter Tactics. Guard Does It Better(tm). everything this sentence implies loving sucks
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May 6, 2018 03:44
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Is there a reason why they wouldn't be a complete stand alone army? I guess because they're specialists against Xenos, so running against anything Imperial or Chaos might be wasting their speciality? I dunno. They seem lore-wise like some sort of elite force, too. I'm just speculating.
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May 6, 2018 03:55
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I put rhinos on the table today and won.
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May 6, 2018 04:33
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Deathwatch will be called in to fight non-Xenos threats in a pinch. A Marine is still a Marine and a Bolter loaded with Vengence rounds will gently caress up a Traitor Legionaire something royal, it's just not often, usually at an Inquisitor's behest.
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May 6, 2018 04:34
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Naramyth posted:I put rhinos on the table today and won. I really feel like competitive 40k is a completely different game than the one I'm familiar with and not one I care to play at that.
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May 6, 2018 04:36
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Naramyth posted:I put rhinos on the table today and won. hosed up if tru
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May 6, 2018 04:38
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SteelMentor posted:Deathwatch will be called in to fight non-Xenos threats in a pinch. A Marine is still a Marine and a Bolter loaded with Vengence rounds will gently caress up a Traitor Legionaire something royal, it's just not often, usually at an Inquisitor's behest. And rules-wise it seems like they're doing the smart thing and having most of the <alien army> specialization stuff in stratagems, so a Deathwatch army/detachment shouldn't be too gimped against armies outside their focus.
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May 6, 2018 04:42
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Got my Knight magnetized and primed today. Just getting the gunmetal down in the skeleton. I'm hoping this gives me some punch in my army.
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May 6, 2018 07:03
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Strobe posted:Picked up Know No Fear today to convert all of the Primaris into Deathwatch mans. I didn't realize that some of the Easy-Build stuff had shoulder pads sculpted directly onto the bodies. That took a lot longer than I wanted to bother with it. Very nice! I'm in the middle of that conversion for the hellblasters in dark imperium and it's super tedious. I can't wait to see how they come out with the alternate heads, I feel like we don't see enough of those and there's so much potential.
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May 6, 2018 07:35
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keep xpostingCorrode posted:Got 5 more Hellions finished off this morning, that makes up a full mob of 20 painted:
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May 6, 2018 08:00
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So can the Deathwatch load Fortis Kill Teams in Corvus Blackstars, or are the Primaris dudes with the silver shoulders stuck walking?
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May 6, 2018 08:29
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Strobe posted:Picked up Know No Fear today to convert all of the Primaris into Deathwatch mans. I didn't realize that some of the Easy-Build stuff had shoulder pads sculpted directly onto the bodies. That took a lot longer than I wanted to bother with it. Any tips for those of us thinking of doing the same conversion? Did you just carve the sculpted pad off? Or did you just excise the whole shoulder?
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May 6, 2018 09:02
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Corrode posted:keep xposting Extremely cool and good. You got a pic of all 20 hellions together?
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May 6, 2018 09:14
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Extremely cool and good. Thanks! Not yet. When I've got everything finished for LGT I'll do a full shot of the 2k.
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May 6, 2018 09:15
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Party boat! Party boat! This is a lovely kit and paints up incredibly quickly, I think this is somewhere between 5-7 hours work which is absurdly quicker than I’ve ever painted a vehicle before. Thats the squad and the
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May 6, 2018 12:08
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Played in a LGS 1500pt tournament with ITC rules/missions and managed to take top place with my bugs with two major victories and one minor victory.  First match was against a solid Mephrit/Novohk Necron netlist played by someone who was admittedly new and it showed a bit. It was a bad match for him generally as my Exocrines outranged everything he had and the Harpies were able to harass the Warriors and characters for the first turn, which really slowed their advance and made the pace of their arrival manageable. Pathogenic Slime once again was the star stratagem, as it wiped an entire large unit of Destroyers in a single volley. He conceded at the bottom of four, as he was looking to be tabled.  Next game was against Orks, which I rarely get to fight currently so I was happy to get the chance. It was the ITC kill point mission that award points based on PL, which really hurt him since his list was character-driven and made it easy to rack up points. Almost immediately I decided to ignore his Gorkanaut as best I could and focus-fire down the rest of his army. He had a really solid deployment and first turn, driving his giant walker into the heart of my land-bound army. His second turn he followed up and managed to get into combat with an Exocrine, but in his eagerness to get his bikers in as well he exposed his character bikers (Warboss, Big Mek, and Painboy) on the back-end, which my reserved Hive Tyrants took full advantage of and cored out the armies leadership.  After that (and some incredible whiffs from his Gorkanaught) I played keepaway and killed everything but his walker by the end. His walker killed one Exocrine and a Malanthrope, and two units of Termagants. It was something like 76-20 at the end.  Last game was again another solid player using Tau. He takes full advantage of drones for ablative wounds on his suits and Riptides, which made them nearly impossible to kill as he made almost all his armor saves and/or FNP rolls. I took first turn and managed, with all the shooting I had, to take down his Forgeworld flyer before it would get any shots in. We were at a distance that a lot of his first turn was repositioning, with the exception of his two Coldstars, which jumped behind my lines and managed to kill my Malanthrope and an Exocrine with their fusion blasters. My Hive Tyrants arrived and promptly killed them both, but the loss of the -1 to hit debuff really hurt me for the rest of the game. The remainder of the match was a tight back-and-forth as we could barely wound each other. By the end of it it was a Riptide and it’s drones shooting into a Termagant unit on the “superior” objective, which killed 10/12 and then charging in and whiffing all attacks. He was super pleased with himself that he managed to scrape out the win by outnumbering my models 3-to-2 until I reminded him that my models were Troops and thus I’d won it outright. It was a fun time and I think it convinced people to make a similar format a monthly event (perhaps a little shorter for time). PierreTheMime fucked around with this message at 14:44 on May 6, 2018 |
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May 6, 2018 13:37
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Got to take my newly painted Necrons for a spin last night. Played against my buddy's chaos army. Wraiths are strong, but I need to paint up 3 more for a squad of 6. Tomb Blades are cheap and great.   
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May 6, 2018 13:56
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Z the IVth posted:Any tips for those of us thinking of doing the same conversion? Did you just carve the sculpted pad off? Or did you just excise the whole shoulder? I tried both at once point or another. Cutting off just the shoulder pad was really tedious, but I think it's the easier option for the Inceptors and Gravis Captain. Replacing the shoulder entirely worked much easier on the rest of them. In particular, where it was possible I assembled the arms after cutting off the original parts but before gluing on the new shoulder. When I put the new shoulders on, they're lined up with the arms, but the arms and shoulder are not actually connected by anything. I get the feeling that trying to attach the shoulder to the arms before attaching it to the body would suck.
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May 6, 2018 16:25
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Test scheme/WIP lil nids: 
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May 6, 2018 17:37
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Aaand Archon done: The plastic character kits are one of the nicest surprises I’ve had coming back into the game in terms of how much easier they are to do a nice job with. When i was still outside looking in a few years back when they started coming out I thought they were absurdly overpriced, but it is totally worth paying for how much better they are than resin or metal. Whole patrol detachment now complete (actual unit being included in the army is minus the splinter cannon and shredder but i wanted to get them done in the batch), bases drybrushed and rims tidied up:  Just a single shuriken cannon weapon swap to do and my LGT army is done, at which point I’ll steal Corrode’s idea and do a whole army shot
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May 6, 2018 17:38
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PaintVagrant posted:Test scheme/WIP lil nids: I really like this Nid scheme. One_Wing posted:Aaand Archon done: Nice job on the Drukhari. I mostly like the plastic characters even if they give me a bit of sticker shock still. I sort of dislike the Archon's default pose although it's very easy to swap in other DE bits as I did on my one upthread.
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May 6, 2018 17:52
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