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Spoeank posted:lmao y'all lost like 75% of your starters and drafted an rb who cant pass block to save wilsons life in the first round how did you not get worse The secondary in 2018 will be better than the injured 2017 secondary. (Young DBs have more experience, Kam coming back, better FA depth) The LBers in 2018 will be the same as the 2017 LBers. The DL in 2018 will be equal to or better than the injured 2017 DL. (A bunch of young draft picks are developing nicely on the DL) The run game in 2018 will be much better than the nonexistant 2017 run game. (Rashaad + literally any of our RBs who can stay healthy there was nobody last year) The OL in 2018 will be much better than the 2017 OL. (Young players developing + Duane Brown + New Non-Cable Coach) The WR's in 2018 will be slightly worse than the 2017 wr's. The only spot where the Hawks are way worse off than last year is at TE. Oh no how will they move forward without a TE in the year of our lord 2018.
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Imagine having any kind of hope in 2018 And I'm not even talking about football necessarily but hell especially any kind of hope re: the Seahawks. If I wasn't flat broke I'd smash the under on every book in Vegas, that poo poo's easy money
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May 5, 2018 06:29
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I knew poo poo had hit the fan when Mike Clay, noted sports autist, projected the Niners to beat the Seahawks in Santa Clara this season.
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May 5, 2018 07:05
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Definitely think this is Carroll's last or next-to-last year in Seattle
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May 5, 2018 12:48
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:The secondary in 2018 will be better than the injured 2017 secondary. (Young DBs have more experience, Kam coming back, better FA depth) They hired Brian Schottenheimer and Ken Norton Jr as their coordinators.
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May 5, 2018 14:37
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:"Ton of capital" ? Well, right, they spent a ton on Richardson as a gap fill for McDowell, who they used their top pick on to shore up the D line--not a position of need with Bennett and Avril. Duane Brown was brought in to gap fill for Fant, who was supposed to start but tore his ACL. Those two alone along with losing McDowell set the team back. Last year was a win-now team, but the gamble they took on kicker didn't work and their run game and pass rush succumbed to injury hell. It was a reasonable attempt, but it was a big push because they knew it was that core's last shot. I really like what the team has done with this year's draft and FA period, but they just didn't have the picks to reload they way they needed to. This year will be about figuring out who will be useful next year. Chris James 2 posted:Definitely think this is Carroll's last or next-to-last year in Seattle If so, then barring catastrophe the next coach will be someone connected to Carroll, and Schneider will stay on as GM. The team they're building is designed to compete in 2019 or 2020, each move they're making appears to be about the long term.
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Spoeank posted:lmao y'all lost like 75% of your starters and drafted an rb who cant pass block to save wilsons life in the first round how did you not get worse Lol like we ever had pass blocking
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The Seahawks are cursed to never run it in again after SB49. All Seattle RB's will be bad or get injured. 
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Maybe Marshawn took Beast Mode with him come to think of it I just thought of a name for all your rbs since he left.......... Least Mode! Got'em
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shirts and skins posted:This year will be about figuring out who will be useful next year. Agreed. I don't expect them to go over 10 wins tbh, but I also don't expect them to go over 7. I personally like all the moves done this off season. I think they were a year too late, but Pete is a stubborn old man.
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shirts and skins posted:Well, right, they spent a ton on Richardson as a gap fill for McDowell, who they used their top pick on to shore up the D line--not a position of need with Bennett and Avril. Duane Brown was brought in to gap fill for Fant, who was supposed to start but tore his ACL. Those two alone along with losing McDowell set the team back. Last year was a win-now team, but the gamble they took on kicker didn't work and their run game and pass rush succumbed to injury hell. It was not a big push. It was a single second round pick.You're acting like they mortgaged the entire future of the franchise. The supremely injured 2017 team still went 9-7 and was close to 11-5. It's entirely reasonable to think this healthy 2018 roster is better than the injured 2017 roster. It's also reasonable to think this healthy 2018 roster is better than the 2018 Niners and Cardinals. Are the hawks the supreme favorite to win the NFC? Of course not. But it's still a darn good team who can plausibly make the playoffs. BITCHTITS posted:Agreed. I don't expect them to go over 10 wins tbh, but I also don't expect them to go over 7. You think this team is going to win 6 or less games? Are you assuming Wilson gets a season-ending injury in practice?
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:You think this team is going to win 6 or less games? Are you assuming Wilson gets a season-ending injury in practice? You do realize that teams with good QBs sometimes lose a lot of games, yes? Look at the Chargers '15/'16 seasons.
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If you're gonna say a 9-7 team was "close to 11-5" then you also have to look at it the other way. How many wins were just barely wins? They beat the niners 12-9 week 2, and the Texans 41-38 week 8. So you could say by the same logic that they were "close to 7-9."
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Leperflesh posted:If you're gonna say a 9-7 team was "close to 11-5" then you also have to look at it the other way. How many wins were just barely wins? Okay so let's say they were almost 7-9. That's still more than 6 wins and the 2018 roster is better than the 2017 injured team. Coldforge posted:You do realize that teams with good QBs sometimes lose a lot of games, yes? Look at the Chargers '15/'16 seasons. Yeah so? Teams with good qbs can lose a lot of games. Those teams generally suck outside of the qb position. This is not the case with Seattle, which has a lot of surrounding talent. E.g., with almost half the starters injured, the defense was still 11th best. Which is even crazier considering the offense had no loving running backs.
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I understand that you yellow-bellied 49er fans are hungry for the mighty Seahawks to fall from grace, but 2018 is not that year.
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Which were the Seahawks injuries that decimated the team last year?
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Which were the Seahawks injuries that decimated the team last year? Earl Thomas, Kam Chancellor and Cliff Avril on the d side off the top of my head Edit: DeShawn Shead maybe Cat Hassler fucked around with this message at 03:11 on May 6, 2018 |
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Kam Sherm Shead Avril McDowell* 5/11 Defensive Starters Then the defensive depth chart also had injuries (at least 7 games missed): Dion Jordan Cromartie Elliot Jones* Powell McDonald And that's not counting people like Earl Thomas who missed a couple games. *these are both DTs, and one of them was going to be the starter and the other was going to be depth
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Again, I'm not saying Seattle is a lock for winning the superbowl or anything ridiculous,. But a healthy 2018 roster is very likely to be better than the injured 2017 team. And the injured 2017 team was still above .500.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Kam All of those dudes except maybe Kam are gone though. It seems like you’re both saying that the team will be better with them gone this year but also that they were important enough that their injuries last year really hurt the team.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:All of those dudes except maybe Kam are gone though. It seems like you’re both saying that the team will be better with them gone this year but also that they were important enough that their injuries last year really hurt the team. That's exactly what he's been saying and I can't stop laughing.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:All of those dudes except maybe Kam are gone though. It seems like you’re both saying that the team will be better with them gone this year but also that they were important enough that their injuries last year really hurt the team. I'm saying it is reasonable to expect the healthy 2018 Seahawks to have an equal or better record than the actual record of the injured 2017 Seahawks. Coldforge posted:That's exactly what he's been saying and I can't stop laughing. I am going to try and explain this as simply as I can because Coldforge has smooth brains. The 2017 team had injuries to many defensive players. Effectively, that meant the 2017 team did not have those players. Ex/ Elliot was a Seahawk in 2017, but because of injuries he didn't play a single regular season game. So effectively, the 2017 team did not have Elliot. Despite the many injuries, the 2017 team still went 9-7. This means that the 2017 team, which effectively did not have Avril or Shead or Sherman, was still talented enough to go 9-7. This means the team is productive enough to go 9-7 without those players. It's measurably true, because that's what actually happened. So when estimating how the good the 2018 Seahawks (without the players who left in FA) will be, we can look at the 2017 team as a baseline for the production level of the team. Because the 2017 team effectively didn't have those players either.
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Dunno why this point is hard to grasp without it being spelled out but here you are.
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Team X puts their LT on IR before the regular season, and ends with an 8-8 record. The following offseason the LT leaves in FA. Holding all other variables constant, would you expect their upcoming record to change from 8-8? No. warcrimes posted:Dunno why this point is hard to grasp without it being spelled out but here you are. I appreciate you getting it 
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Coldfudge i hate you and your football team but i respect the work you put in making everyone mad all the time.
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Papercut posted:They hired Brian Schottenheimer and Ken Norton Jr as their coordinators. Yep, a gosh darned nightmare!
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Team X puts their LT on IR before the regular season, and ends with an 8-8 record. I’m glad you’ve moved on from “Russ will save us,” to “the math says everything’s okay!”
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Coldforge posted:I’m glad you’ve moved on from “Russ will save us,” to “the math says everything’s okay!” And when it fails, he's already made his leverage for "it's a fluke, 2019 will be when everything goes back to normal okay"
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It's amazing how the transfer of Dick Sherm has changed the personalities of these two fandoms.
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Coldforge posted:I’m glad you’ve moved on from “Russ will save us,” to “the math says everything’s okay!” I’m glad you are an idiot who can’t comprehend simple logic.
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i have nfc west brain
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By the time Sherman went out the Hawks had picked up more than half their wins and were on their way to another. Likewise for Chancellor, who isn’t guaranteed to return and can’t seem to last a season anymore anyway.
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Chichevache posted:It's amazing how the transfer of Dick Sherm has changed the personalities of these two fandoms.  
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Gonna need a silhouette of a kneeling Kaepernick on a green, blue and silver shirt now.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:By the time Sherman went out the Hawks had picked up more than half their wins and were on their way to another. Likewise for Chancellor, who isn’t guaranteed to return and can’t seem to last a season anymore anyway. Or “with Sherman out, Kam out, and a bunch of other defensive players out, the Seahawks had almost the same number of wins when Sherman was healthy” E: let’s cut the foreplay YOLO. Toxx bet $20 to the winner’s charity of choice. I wager that the 2018 Seahawks will have more than the claimed 6 wins if Wilson is healthy all year.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:if Wilson is healthy all year. That is a hell of qualifier
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My god, this is the best off season.
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Coldforge posted:My god, this is the best off season. Nut up punk. Take the toxx or shut your villainous mouth.
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