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NmareBfly posted:The problem is ‘power’ doesn’t equate exactly to ‘fun.’ Some people prefer to have units that can cover lots of ground really fast instead of lumber forward then alpha strike. Maybe the ‘fun’ comes from high risk high reward backstabs and lots of ducking and weaving. Assaults are only so much better because the game is balanced to make them so. They basically need a ton of the gear that just doesn't exist in game in this era to have lights progress in power past trivial speedbumps to a player, or ineffective precision strikers to the AI. The stock spider in this game? Eh, whatever. The equivalent of the TT spider with a partial wing and Nimble Jumper that can force a minimum +5 to hit mod against it? God tier forever. (Or, for as long as the AI doesn't get similarly maxed level pilots with max + accuracy gear and tarcomps).
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May 8, 2018 00:48
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Rygar201 posted:It is nice to see the Spheroids learning to appreciate the efficient beauty of Batchall though In the end the Inner Sphere acquiesced to the Clans not because of their superior mechwarriors but because people were sick of all the Lyran scouting lances in every mission. But seriously a large part of the problem is that this game just represents a single lance in short missions. This has no room for some of the logistics or other factors that can favor lights and mediums.
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May 8, 2018 00:48
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I don't think limits for players are enough. Mission load outs & economics have to be different, too. A single light isn't going be much fun when you're facing an assault lance backed up by a full lance of 80t tanks. (Maybe equal weight in lights would be fun, though)
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May 8, 2018 00:48
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Missions where speed is more important than firepower and durability should be a given for any "I want to keep fast movers on my roster forever" of course.
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May 8, 2018 00:51
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What does Bulwark even represent? Your pilot is so personally tough that his mech's armor responds to lasers differently?
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May 8, 2018 00:52
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StringOfLetters posted:I found a way to get good mileage out of a 55 ton Shadow Hawk, pretty late in the game when I've got more assault mechs than I can use. A cheap Light or Medium mech is an overpriced coffin, but a fully equipped one is kinda useful. The pilot wants to have the Piloting skill. The extra evasion bip is necessary, and the higher-rank piloting nub that gives +1 max evasion is even better. A Rangefinder is a very good piece to put in the head spot. Rangefinders++' go up to +100m spot distance, but even the basic +25m ones will let you out-spot the opposition. Jump Jets are also mandatory. When you get any, a Gyro to stick into its torso that adds + Hit Difficulty, basically functions the same way as permanent extra evasion bips. A Shadow Hawk who spends its turn Jumping, who gets 5 evasion bips, who is even harder to hit with the evasion Gyro, will have such a low hit percentage - enemies will only shoot at it when it's the only mech in range, and they'll usually miss. I run one very similar except it's an AC/5 instead of the Medium Laser. I use it as a spotter and jump-in assassin on downed mechs.
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May 8, 2018 00:52
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I love that so many people in this thread both hate the Clans and are also mad that sometime the enemies field a larger force than indicated before the mission starts, as well as want incentives to field lighter Mechs than they have to.
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May 8, 2018 00:53
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Rygar201 posted:I love that so many people in this thread both hate the Clans and are also mad that sometime the enemies field a larger force than indicated before the mission starts, as well as want incentives to field lighter Mechs than they have to. 
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May 8, 2018 00:54
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Flavius Belisarius posted:What does Bulwark even represent? Your pilot is so personally tough that his mech's armor responds to lasers differently? think of it like they're spending all the thought they would have used to move instead constantly subconsciously angling just right to have those autocannon shells glance off or bobbing and weaving so that lasers don't have enough dwell time in one spot to do full damage. e: Rygar201 posted:I love that so many people in this thread both hate the Clans and are also mad that sometime the enemies field a larger force than indicated before the mission starts, as well as want incentives to field lighter Mechs than they have to. also this owns tbh
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May 8, 2018 00:54
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TBH I have a lot more fun playing my sandbox mod with a lance of lights and one or two mediums doing 1-2 skull contracts than I do a bunch of assaults and heavies. I wish that phase of the game lasted longer in the actual story mode, but thats why I made that mod.
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May 8, 2018 00:57
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So just started playing the game and absolutely loving it so far, but is Glitch supposed to be a complete murder machine out of the box? I just got the dropship and I swear Glitch has killed like 15 mechs so far 
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May 8, 2018 00:58
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Glitch has the highest gunnery and landing hits on the swarms of made-of-glass lights is one thing that leads to another, so... Pretty quick everyone will be just as proficient, though.
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May 8, 2018 01:04
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Rygar201 posted:I love that so many people in this thread both hate the Clans and are also mad that sometime the enemies field a larger force than indicated before the mission starts, as well as want incentives to field lighter Mechs than they have to. Yeah, but we're not furries.
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Rygar201 posted:I love that so many people in this thread both hate the Clans and are also mad that sometime the enemies field a larger force than indicated before the mission starts, as well as want incentives to field lighter Mechs than they have to. And whatever it is they want, it had better be optimal
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May 8, 2018 01:17
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What's the deal with how some assassination missions have the target backed up by a spotter on top of reinforcements/ambushes? It's not listed in the objectives as a target and doesn't count toward any of them and no one seems to ever mention it, but like half the time the target will just have some locust or spider hanging out with it.
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I really want another Gauss Rifle to appear somehow. I know it won't, but I'm having visions of a dual-Gauss King Crab just murdering everything. Speaking of, Crabs: 2 AC-20s, JJs, and...? I really don't know what to add to that loadout though I want to. I'm using a Stalker LRMboat, the SLDF Highlander that I just switched to 2 LRM-20s and the Gauss that I might switch back to a more midrange/bracket set-up, and currently a scout Grasshopper that switches between 3 loadouts because they keep getting blown up, but I'm looking for suggestions on another mech as well.
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May 8, 2018 01:20
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Flavius Belisarius posted:What does Bulwark even represent? Your pilot is so personally tough that his mech's armor responds to lasers differently? They know how to torso-twist a la mwo. Non-bulwark is a pubbie who stares you down and lets you core him, bulwark is someone who knows how to spread damage and get the most out of their mech. Maybe a bit of fancy footwork.
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May 8, 2018 01:23
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I threw my glitch in the bin because I levelled her badly. Replaced with some Ronin. Also I think adding the ecm suites might help lights, like letting them fire indirect weapons to unconfirmed targets might help.
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Flipswitch posted:I threw my glitch in the bin because I levelled her badly. Replaced with some Ronin.
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Flipswitch posted:I threw my glitch in the bin because I levelled her badly. Replaced with some Ronin. oh man, imagine C3 Ravens spotting for your LRM spam... Go from 50% of your missiles hitting at extreme range to 95% Perma-evasion from Guardian ECM Massively increased spotting ranges with Beagle Active Probe
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May 8, 2018 01:33
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People want lighter mechs to remain relevant because it makes for a more interesting tactical game than a slow mosh between a bunch of 3/5 gunboats with maybe the odd 4/6 jumpy gunboat mixed in.
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Ravenfood posted:I really want another Gauss Rifle to appear somehow. I know it won't, but I'm having visions of a dual-Gauss King Crab just murdering everything. Speaking of, Crabs: 2 AC-20s, JJs, and...? I really don't know what to add to that loadout though I want to. There's a mod out there that adds SLDF stuff to the shops. 'Mechs too. And thank you, that's a great idea. it's time stop playing Citizen Snips with AC/20s.
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What was that other pilot that shares Glitch's voice lines? Might need a spare.
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May 8, 2018 01:38
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Tarezax posted:oh man, imagine C3 Ravens spotting for your LRM spam... Go from 50% of your missiles hitting at extreme range to 95% e SpookyLizard posted:There's a mod out there that adds SLDF stuff to the shops. 'Mechs too.
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Conspiratiorist posted:What was that other pilot that shares Glitch's voice lines? Might need a spare. Spenthia uses glitches voice.
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Ravenfood posted:All of my missiles have 95% accuracy at pretty much all times, tbh. There's a +missile accuracy TTS that weighs maybe 2 tons and gives +2 to accuracy. You'll never, ever miss. https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleTechMods/comments/8frbbn/mod_releaselostech_in_shops/ Gotcha.
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Argas posted:In the end the Inner Sphere acquiesced to the Clans not because of their superior mechwarriors but because people were sick of all the Lyran scouting lances in every mission. It's hard to represent the in-universe explanation for a small mercenary company in the rear end end of nowhere to keep using that one locust they have, which is that there isn't a replacement so they use what they have. It's pretty easy after a few missions to get several replacement mechs in the game, but usually it would be harder.
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May 8, 2018 01:45
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SpookyLizard posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleTechMods/comments/8frbbn/mod_releaselostech_in_shops/ SLDF tech doesn't get +s so the only good poo poo is really the Gauss Rifle and DHS
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seaborgium posted:It's hard to represent the in-universe explanation for a small mercenary company in the rear end end of nowhere to keep using that one locust they have, which is that there isn't a replacement so they use what they have. It's pretty easy after a few missions to get several replacement mechs in the game, but usually it would be harder. Well, since your Rating Board is also zero, I like to think that there were about three years of paperwork and bureaucracy to wait on as well as finalizing the Raiders old commander's records and remains before you took ownership of the company and started dropping.
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Eej posted:SLDF tech doesn't get +s so the only good poo poo is really the Gauss Rifle and DHS
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Eej posted:SLDF tech doesn't get +s so the only good poo poo is really the Gauss Rifle and DHS Modding the damage and heat values to something more in line with the + weapons is simple as opening a text editor and changing a couple clearly labeled values.
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BurntCornMuffin posted:Well, since your Rating Board is also zero, I like to think that there were about three years of paperwork and bureaucracy to wait on as well as finalizing the Raiders old commander's records and remains before you took ownership of the company and started dropping. Plus you're stuck in debt so excess cash and salvage goes into debt servicing rather than upgrading your company
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Galaga Galaxian posted:TBH I have a lot more fun playing my sandbox mod with a lance of lights and one or two mediums doing 1-2 skull contracts than I do a bunch of assaults and heavies. I have been having so much fun with this. I am using Galaga's sandbox mod and I have JK's Variants in the campaign now. Starting off with a Cicada, Commando, Panther and a two Locusts has made picking a contract a serious consideration. Damage is brutal and fast, because everything has so little armour. Mechs with PPC's and AC/5's are really scary as they can expose or even destroy a torso in a hit. Enemy Medium mechs are terrifying right now. There is a real sense of progress as you slowly acquire the money and parts to upgrade your starting lance, and work towards adding new mechs to your team. I really love the light/medium play in this game. My locust has the most kills in my company so far.
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Ultimately, the issue comes down to the basic framework of the game. Without changing that, you're never going to get your "lights stay relevant" wish bar never advancing the storyline and taking the easy missions forever. The problem is a combination of only ever being able to field one lance, combined with more skulls on the mission meaning precisely one thing only - higher tonnage enemies with more elite pilots. Like, in universe a difficult mission could be something like being dropped on an occupied planet to run a guerrilla campaign - in that case running faster mechs actually makes some sense, given you'd want hit and fade tactics combined with garrisons not necessarily consisting entirely of super elite pilots in assault mechs (that'd be something you'd want to avoid). But within the context of this game this is frankly impossible to have. And (bar some huge tech difference, like a Firemoth D against an IS Assault of this era) engaging an Assault lance with a scout lance SHOULD be suicidal, but the game requires you to do so if you're taking light mechs into a difficult mission.
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May 8, 2018 02:26
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I really am stuck on my Mechwarrior Mercenaries mech design. A Catapult doesn't look like that!
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May 8, 2018 02:40
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Rygar201 posted:I love that so many people in this thread both hate the Clans and are also mad that sometime the enemies field a larger force than indicated before the mission starts, as well as want incentives to field lighter Mechs than they have to. 
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May 8, 2018 02:42
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I started trying out some AC-2 instead of just relying on LRM 20 spamming. It seems....okay? I dunno if I'm not far enough that they're actually okay to use over a billion M lasers yet. I just finished the mission where I have a time limit to kill a dropship building for reference.
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