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mp5 posted:Is there any update on the Crytek lawsuit? Nothing until June, although there are rumors that Discovery might have promoted the UK government to look into the tax breaks. I looked at the scoring myself last week and it's extremely generous to companies to identify as 'british-ish', but if they fibbed on the paperwork (BFI template), they could be in the poo poo. I'll wait until something actually happens, personally.
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Saw posted:I'm almost 100% sure Sq42 will release 'something'. Don't ignore the Sandi Factor. She's got to be breathing down the neck of her husband and whatever unlucky developer(s) are within earshot. She will NOT end up on the cutting room floor once more! Even if the game is nothing more than 'click the button to watch the next scene' - Sandi WILL be seen 'acting' with B+ list stars. I’m pretty sure Sandi A) hates video games and B) thinks Chris is a two bit hack. She could give a poo poo if Squadron comes out, the YouTube shows look better on her IMDB at this point anyway.
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Beet Wagon posted:the YouTube shows look better on her IMDB at this point anyway. yes i agree the doll web series was an absolutely riviting performance. edit: just checked and that series never made it beyond releasing a youtube trailer. count that as more sandi footage ending up in a trash bin Nicholas fucked around with this message at 19:04 on May 9, 2018 |
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DrBall_MD posted:With that amount of capital, surely they should be paying most of their expenses out of the returns on some safe investments? I can't see how they can be in financial trouble at this point. We don't know poo poo about payroll or random costs. Ortwin engages in movie-math, which is a little like bistro-math but can show no profit while standing on a large stack of cash. Everything we've modelled out has been back of an envelope sketches based on prevailing rates and whatever we can get from published accounts. We don't know about any dividends that might have been taken out, apart from some transfers made early on. It's one of the funnier aspects of 'transparency' as a term. It's usually used loudest by the people who are actually avoiding it... The obvious example being the effort tracker that was actually there to obfuscate the progress. Beet Wagon posted:I'm pretty sure Sandi A) hates video games Well, not one. Or possibly two, depending on how discovery goes. I don't think it's opened the doors that she was hoping for, given the talent they acquired. Ooh, there's a thought. Maybe the contracts are due for the mocap?
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A gentle reminder that Duke Nukem Forever took 15 years to make, so Star Citizen has about 9 more years of development ahead until they reach the same level of polish.
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A 2004-timeframe, 3D-modeled, low-res skin, Nintendo Wii-captured mocap with a budget VA would be a better actor than Sandi
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Drunk Theory posted:I was just thinking that the tone of the backer community has shifted with more and more negative news in relation to.detractors. Just two years ago, people would just say wait for Jesus patch to silence doubts or haters. Now the argument has increased in frevor and that CIG are dealing with an organized hate campaign that wants the game to fail. An anagram for "ill forum beaver?" What are you trying to tell us?
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Mirificus posted:https://twitter.com/CliffordakaMiku/status/994215898360709121 Part of me wishes Star Citizen comes out and is playable. Purely so I can grief the gently caress out of Clifford aka Miku.
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54 thousand dollars. There's being a corporate whore, and then there's this.
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The Bind Culling Problem.
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Tarkaroshe on Twitter posted:Unfortunately, when people are given more freedom, with little consequence, the more they'll try to push the envelope on what they can get away with Dude accidentally hit the nail on the head with regards to Chris Roberts developing Star Citizen
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Hav posted:The Bind Culling Problem. I heard that Alan Turing himself struggled with this problem. He never solved it... I am sure Chris Roberts will show him how it's done!
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It's the promo/free pc guys https://www.twitch.tv/wtfosaurus
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StarBegotten posted:I heard that Alan Turing himself struggled with this problem. He never solved it... It's just funny how it becomes it's own thing.  Everything was going to change in 2.6.1. Then 3.0. I think they're talking 3.2 now. If it's that big of a problem and it's the _only thing standing in the way of silencing goons_...
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The Bind Culling Problem Well, it's not because of server sync, see;  Although point #5 appears to suggest that the client *is* effecting server speed. The other worrying point is that he says himself, 'Fidelity is the enemy of performance'. This brings into play what the targets for performance should be be (as a metric, because you can measure it) versus what the Fidelity should be, which is entirely subjective.
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I think Mr. Turing actually had issues with another culling program. But as to the scam-ness of star citizen, let's not forget that Croberts himself said in Jan 2015 that Squadron 42 was coming in Fall of 2015. That's a product ready to launch in 9 months. Squadron 42 is an cinematic FPS. People make them all the loving time. Crysis/Lumberyard is more or less the perfect engine for them. None of the PTU additions or features should've dragged on SQ42. FPSes themselves are bog easy. It used to be conventional wisdom around game dev shops to release an FPS first cause it was easy and you'd get at least some revenue. When you know you are going to launch SQ42 in 9 months, you better have a pretty loving good idea of where it is in development. It is now May of 2018. CR is 32 months late on that promise, that can't be blamed on backers or bind culling or mesh servers or Crysis or anything. that is almost a 400% overrun. So in reality, we are left with two options. A) Chris Roberts is so loving incompetent that he shouldn't be given the licence to develop anything, or B) it was a lie. B seems WAY more likely. But he still sat on that stage an said it. He didn't say (at that time) don't trust my dates. He took pre-orders for "coming in fall 2015" for 9 months after that. This is why Star Citizen is a scam. Chris will stand up and tell whatever lie he needs to get people to buy. Are they working on a game? Sure kinda looks like it. Will it ever be done? Who knows. Does that excuse raising money on blatantly untrue statements? Nope. EDIT: I also love when I read about Dead Reckoning thrown in as an improvement CIG needs to make to code. Every modern engine does this as a matter of course. SoftNum fucked around with this message at 19:33 on May 9, 2018 |
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his nibs posted:Part of me wishes Star Citizen comes out and is playable. The game he wants to play for the rest of his life? What a derp. I mean, i love bacon, but i can't eat just bacon. I love ED and hope to play it for years, but sooner or later it will go into the pile of other loved games that i rarely play, and I still play other games regardless from time to time. Anyway, back to the grind... and no, i don't mean ED, i mean Fortnite: Save the World. Playing as a constructor i'm always needing a ton of crafting stuff to make decent bases.... that other players then screw up by building all around my carefully designed defenses... assholes.
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_The_ Bind Culling Problem Of course, we can always toss that football down the road, because it's far more important to flesh out land claims rather than performance. It's not like any gamed failed for lack of performance, ever.
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Hav posted:The Bind Culling Problem I wonder if every time CR says he wants more fidelity the devs weep.
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SoftNum posted:So in reality, we are left with two options. A) Chris Roberts is so loving incompetent that he shouldn't be given the licence to develop anything, or B) it was a lie. B seems WAY more likely. But he still sat on that stage an said it. He didn't say (at that time) don't trust my dates. He took pre-orders for "coming in fall 2015" for 9 months after that. Yeah, I'm on 'B' too. He claimed that everything was done; that was an utter lie. I keep hammering on the Bind Culling because it's not actually that big of a problem, it's just that their Fidelity _claims_, and let's be loving honest, they're talking polygon count don't hold any water in the face of seeing the mechanics demonstrated. It's literally a keystone to the arch that is this whole thing because it informs the network traffic. Network traffic is a big loving deal, its just that most people don't have to deal with it, or have to diagnose why you're routing through St Petersburg rather than just punting to your AWS instance directly*. It's literally a test you could hang your hat on, there is a metric for success and they've kicked that can down the road for _three years_ that I can tell. Two years ago was the time to have the conversation about less fidelity. Agony Aunt posted:I wonder if every time CR says he wants more fidelity the devs weep. I'm hoping that flat 'ummm' causes a break out of psychosomatic illness amongst the artists, at least.
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Agony Aunt posted:The game he wants to play for the rest of his life? What a derp. I mean, i love bacon, but i can't eat just bacon. I love ED and hope to play it for years, but sooner or later it will go into the pile of other loved games that i rarely play, and I still play other games regardless from time to time. I think he's just figuring out that in order to get a decent return on investment in time-value once the game launches (and he's 60) he will be required to play the game for the rest of his life to get his money out of it.
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DrBall_MD posted:It's got to be '3', unless there is an unsurpassed level of idiocy at work here. Please tell me where can I get a minimum of 33% anual return on a safe investment.
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Hav posted:The Bind Culling Problem.
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SoftNum posted:So in reality, we are left with two options. A) Chris Roberts is so loving incompetent that he shouldn't be given the licence to develop anything, or B) it was a lie. B seems WAY more likely. False Dilemma. Croberts is both massively incompetent AND dishonest.
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VictorianQueerLit posted:It's a big leap from simply knowing some facts like who is quitting or what the name of a ship will be, that hundreds of people knew, and being this paragon of the community leading the charge for justice against a scam developer by providing an outlet for their voices where there was none before. tl:dr Free Derek!
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Jobbo_Fett posted:So Elite: Dangerous just has a solo mode, which is essentially "Offline Mode", whereas SotA has no offline mode, and Star Citizen's offline mode engages every time it crashes. The most hilarious/dumb thing to me is that the literal only defense they have is "someone else does it too". E:D pulled offline mode and rightfully got poo poo for it. They also, for awhile at least, weren't giving refunds to people who wanted to pull their pledges because of that renege, and rightfully got poo poo for it and walked it back (also someone said "hey uk consumer law fucknuts"). "Someone else did it" is not a "get out of criticism free" card, it means everyone who does it should get criticism for doing it. But no the worst pay to win, anti-consumer excesses are fine from CIG because (company we hate for doing literally the same thing) did it first. 
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If the goon agenda is so sew chaos among star citizen and its fans, then derek smart gets a lot of credit regardless of whether he's right or wrong or crazy because he is a lightning rod for controversy. in short, unban derek
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VictorianQueerLit posted:It's a big leap from simply knowing some facts like who is quitting or what the name of a ship will be, that hundreds of people knew, and being this paragon of the community leading the charge for justice against a scam developer by providing an outlet for their voices where there was none before. You know. To read it like this I am beginning to think you don't like Derek very much and that you think he is not a stand up kind of guy.
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Nicholas posted:If the goon agenda is so sew chaos among star citizen and its fans, then derek smart gets a lot of credit regardless of whether he's right or wrong or crazy because he is a lightning rod for controversy. Agreed. Free Derek. Let him come back home. 
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Hav posted:Well, for fucks sake don't mention that cash injection we had from George Soros. [platinum]Real talk: I'm pretty sure they already figured out Geroge Soros funding was behind Operation Derek Smart all along so there's probably no point keeping up our pretenses anymore sorry I know were supposed to keep it on the discord but I'm on my phone right now]/platinum] 
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Hav posted:The other worrying point is that he says himself, 'Fidelity is the enemy of performance'. Fidelity and realism are your enemies as a game designer. You must embrace the abstractions, compromises and hiding/removing everything that doesn't have to show or makes too little of a difference when it does in expense to performance and gameplay experience. Of course both fidelity and realism are the essence of the marketing and promotional material (which usually doesn't reflect the state of the end product) for too many overhyped game titles. So it's not a surprise that the CIG hacks are still dragging out this state of the project --longer than backers should have allowed-- and are ignoring the performance issues. In fact they are further breaking the thing they are supposed to be building on a solid base with random bullshit, six years in "development", and the backers are still cheering. And what's more puzzling is backers with supposed game development experience writing on reddit and focusing on the "game development is hard and takes time you guys" aspect. Sure, but what about all the other backwards poo poo? Or at least the huge don'ts of development? Nothing to say about that, huh?
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MarcusSA posted:This guy can gently caress right off. Had to lol at the lean dismissal of that wall of shill. Thank you sir.
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Mirificus posted:https://twitter.com/badnewsbaron/status/993932175417528320 Star Citizer: There's a difference between passion and 'toxicity', however...
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While posting about the eccentric early access launch event for Worlds Adrift someone reminded me of the Firefall bus and of course the similarities to Star Citizen mismanagement quickly came to mind... https://www.techinasia.com/firefall-mark-kern-sacked-the9-story quote:Spending millions to promote a game still in alpha Humm this DOES sound familiar: quote:The wrath of the boss quote:"He would swoop in one afternoon and berate a series of features several teams had spent months on, declaring they begin again and LISTEN to what he told them to do. He’d be back in a few days to see if it was done. This crushed morale, and forced people into spontaneous, isolated crunch mode. He would shout and scream his perspectives. He would ignore anything that didn’t fit his immediate viewpoint – which was subject to sudden, violent changes. He would rage-email people in the small hours of the night, or on weekends. Raskolnikov fucked around with this message at 20:09 on May 9, 2018 |
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trucutru posted:Please tell me where can I get a minimum of 33% anual return on a safe investment. I'm getting 12% on a tiny fraction of what CIG have to invest from a high-street IFA. They'll be getting at least 20%, even in the current climate. But even assuming 10%, and that they aren't totally retarded and have invested 2/3rds of what they have; that's still $10m a year; which is more than enough to run a jpg factory staffed by fresh-faced interns IMO; even if you do spend ludicrous amounts on doors, furniture and coffee machines. I'd be interested to see objective calculations of their outgoings...
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Saw posted:I'm almost 100% sure Sq42 will release 'something'. Don't ignore the Sandi Factor. She's got to be breathing down the neck of her husband and whatever unlucky developer(s) are within earshot. She will NOT end up on the cutting room floor once more! Even if the game is nothing more than 'click the button to watch the next scene' - Sandi WILL be seen 'acting' with B+ list stars. Cue every let's play-er ever: HOLY poo poo That's Gillian Anderson...... and some other lady. 
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Sample_text posted:Cue every let's play-er ever: lmao i doubt gill a is going to be in There was a Rumor that some of the Big Name Stars had a time limit attached to their likenesses appearing in game (maybe the timer on that actually started when they showed off all that mocap behind the scenes stuff, which would be lol), which was not confirmed outright but certainly seemed a bit more likely with the complete lack of anyone but Hamil in the SQ42 "slice". Croberts not showing off his star cast at every opportunity would be out of character at best.
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