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I pissed off a LARP once because instead of recognizing the brilliance of my berserker costume, they kept saying I was "drunk" and "not wearing any pants". Buncha joykills I tell you. e: it's like I have a gift for pagesniping but only with really bad posts
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congrats on taking us to page 1000
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May 10, 2018 16:37
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On the two-handed sword chat, how did guys carry those around? I get why the 'on the back' scabbard is impractical if you plan to need your weapon anytime soon but if zweihander dudes worked as bodyguards they'd need to have their weapons at hand, often within cities where a six foot hip scabbard is going to be a tripping hazard to everyone else nearby.
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May 10, 2018 16:49
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As far as the looting chat goes, apparently the Red Army had a pretty thorough system during WW2, where each soldier got a certain allowance based on weight to send back to their relatives. which was widely regarded as how much you could loot. It may make it sound like they were promoting mass looting, and I've heard such, but to me it sounds more like a way to at least attempt to control the amount of looting, as well as balancing looting between common soldiers and the upper ranks (who have always had more opportunities to loot).
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May 10, 2018 17:09
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Fangz posted:I pissed off people at a larp too. I'm a small fellow and I picked out a shield that basically covered my entire body. Apparently that was 'cheating' :P The real magical time is when you get people who pick the biggest shield they can find then complain when you hit them in the head because it's the only bit you can see
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May 10, 2018 17:18
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SeanBeansShako posted:Entire regiment ends up with lewd French silver plated cigarette cases. I can't believe I'm saying this but it might be worth taking to the whatisthisthing subreddit
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May 10, 2018 17:40
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Milo and POTUS posted:I can't believe I'm saying this but it might be worth taking to the whatisthisthing subreddit They're a good resource for historical buttplugs
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May 10, 2018 17:45
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I will be god damned.
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May 10, 2018 17:50
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Phanatic posted:For that matter, look at Cambodia, China, Zimbabwe, and South Africa to see what happens when you take a bunch of people who aren't farmers and tell them to start being farmers. SlothfulCobra posted:They also tried to run farms while also serving as soldiers, and it turned out you need to be around to make a farm profitable. The wars that enriched Rome bankrupted the soldiers that fought them. That being said, didn't Cao Cao in the Three Kingdoms era of China have a lot of success with soldier colonies? The specifics are a little fuzzy to memory right now, but I seem to recall he had a habit of recruiting soldiers, training them, and then settling them in various abandoned/wartorn regions as a permanent garrison that was also available to campaign when required. Apparently it worked and was part of the reason why he became the strongest of the three kingdoms. Fakeedit: Though that being said, maybe it worked for him because his recruits included a lot of "former farmers displaced by civil war."
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May 10, 2018 17:56
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GotLag posted:The example that comes to my mind is the battle of Mogadishu, when the rangers left most of their NVGs and even some of their canteens back at base because it was supposed to be a quick mission. Pretty sure I posted here about the old Browning machine guns with the perforated jacket, and "gutting the gun" by removing the actual barrel when going on non-shooty marches and exercises. And Infantry Dude getting mildly chewed out because "if you're gonna do that, at least stick a broomstick in there so light doesn't shine all the way through the jacket". IIRC someone else posted the fine mortar-baseplate solution of an appropriately sized and shaped piece of wood instead of the steel deal. See how much poo poo you can safely ditch for loot or just non-herniation purposes!
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May 10, 2018 18:02
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Tomn posted:That being said, didn't Cao Cao in the Three Kingdoms era of China have a lot of success with soldier colonies? The specifics are a little fuzzy to memory right now, but I seem to recall he had a habit of recruiting soldiers, training them, and then settling them in various abandoned/wartorn regions as a permanent garrison that was also available to campaign when required. Apparently it worked and was part of the reason why he became the strongest of the three kingdoms. It's the kind of thing that can work to the benefit of the state (and maybe even to the benefit of the soldier) if done right, but it requires administrative oversight and doesn't benefit rich landowners, so it can fall apart pretty quickly.
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May 10, 2018 18:05
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Ardent Communist posted:As far as the looting chat goes, apparently the Red Army had a pretty thorough system during WW2, where each soldier got a certain allowance based on weight to send back to their relatives. which was widely regarded as how much you could loot. It may make it sound like they were promoting mass looting, and I've heard such, but to me it sounds more like a way to at least attempt to control the amount of looting, as well as balancing looting between common soldiers and the upper ranks (who have always had more opportunities to loot). One of the things that Zhukov did was establish inspections at each of the few crossings over the Vistula that made sure nobody was sending back anything unsanctioned. Unfortunately I don't have any requirements as to what was allowed to be sent back, but presumably anything of actual cultural significance would be turned back.
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May 10, 2018 18:26
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the yeti posted:Hi milgoons, posting on behalf of a Dutch friend whose family have found these over the years and they've had no luck identifying them. Unfortunately I don't have measurements on them but any ideas?
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May 10, 2018 18:26
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sullat posted:It's the kind of thing that can work to the benefit of the state (and maybe even to the benefit of the soldier) if done right, but it requires administrative oversight and doesn't benefit rich landowners, so it can fall apart pretty quickly. It also requires not getting into the near-genocidal level of incompetence of some communist regimes and not constantly calling the farmers away from their farms to campaign. That does sound like the sort of deal that the Goths were trying to offer all throughout their rampage through Rome.
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May 10, 2018 18:29
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Libluini posted:The evolution of this was to organize a cavalry force into different "Treffen" (sorry, don't know the English term for this): You would send in the first Treffen to charge and when their charge has lost momentum and the sword/mace/whatever phase begins, you send in the next Treffen for another shock. If used right, this repeatedly disrupting and hammering of the enemy was devastating. Wave? HEY GUNS posted:no but if your axe or polearm has a hook on it you can pull the shaft to one side or trap it, which is a sick fighting move I've thought that you could hook stuff with just the axe blade. And wouldn't zweihander's parrying hooks and long crossguard help with binding your opponents weapon? e: bloom posted:I pissed off a LARP once because instead of recognizing the brilliance of my berserker costume, they kept saying I was "drunk" and "not wearing any pants". Buncha joykills I tell you. a good snipe imo ChubbyChecker fucked around with this message at 18:33 on May 10, 2018 |
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May 10, 2018 18:30
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SeanBeansShako posted:Also, nobody at all know what that strange buttplug round is from still? That is actually driving me crazy. It looks to be an early rifle projectile, predating the Minie ball. It has a (brass ?) driving band to engage the rifling and a cast main body. What's weird is that the main body looks to be cast iron rather than lead, lead doesn't turn black like this. It looks too large to be an early breech loading projectile, so my guess is a pre 19 century muzzle loaded rifle projectile. There is a good chance it was a hunting weapon, as those rifles had to be loaded with a hammer to engrave the rifling on the projectile and force it down the barrel and would foul quickly, making them impractical for most military uses.
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May 10, 2018 18:34
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Kafouille posted:It looks to be an early rifle projectile, predating the Minie ball. It has a (brass ?) driving band to engage the rifling and a cast main body. What's weird is that the main body looks to be cast iron rather than lead, lead doesn't turn black like this. It looks too large to be an early breech loading projectile, so my guess is a pre 19 century muzzle loaded rifle projectile. There is a good chance it was a hunting weapon, as those rifles had to be loaded with a hammer to engrave the rifling on the projectile and force it down the barrel and would foul quickly, making them impractical for most military uses.
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May 10, 2018 18:50
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Yeah perhaps some sort of light field piece?
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May 10, 2018 18:52
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SeanBeansShako posted:Yeah perhaps some sort of light field piece? I mean an elephant gun is nearly one of those...
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May 10, 2018 18:57
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Rent-A-Cop posted:It looks way too big for that. I'd bet on some flavor of early to mid 20th century AP cannon round. It looks to be around .80 caliber when compared to the .50 round, that's on the upper range of black powder hunting rifles. It's not a 20th century AP round, those use steel, not cast iron, they don't have those weird casting details all over and the driving band is primitive at best. SeanBeansShako posted:Yeah perhaps some sort of light field piece? It's too small to be a field piece, and a rifled solid shot would be quite unusual.
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May 10, 2018 19:02
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Tomn posted:That being said, didn't Cao Cao in the Three Kingdoms era of China have a lot of success with soldier colonies? The specifics are a little fuzzy to memory right now, but I seem to recall he had a habit of recruiting soldiers, training them, and then settling them in various abandoned/wartorn regions as a permanent garrison that was also available to campaign when required. Apparently it worked and was part of the reason why he became the strongest of the three kingdoms. In the novel it least it was Shu that sets up a soldier-farmer system. The Qing used similar kinds of military colonies to settle Han in places like Guizhou and Yunnan, it makes sense for occupation forces that you don't plan on sending long distances. And shipping food and supplies from elsewhere to a place like Guizhou would have been unaffordable given the transport costs so self sufficiency was crucial.
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May 10, 2018 19:03
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Is a rifled shotgun a thing that exists? Because that looks like roughly shotgun diameter. Or roughly flare pistol diameter.
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May 10, 2018 19:06
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ChubbyChecker posted:Wave? "Strike" would probably come closest in meaning.
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May 10, 2018 19:06
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catfry posted:honestly it's probably a chess piece. Why would someone put a chess piece up their rear end
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May 10, 2018 19:07
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zoux posted:Why would someone put a chess piece up their rear end Nice flared base
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May 10, 2018 19:14
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It's probably a gas check ring, but not that kind of gas.
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May 10, 2018 19:18
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Honestly I feel like that thing is just an ornament made in the shape of a bullet.
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May 10, 2018 19:20
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I liked this thing about the Bismarck and Swordfish I have no idea if the maker is legit but I enjoyed his accent and graphics Also I am endlessly fascinated by pre-digital fire control solutions
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May 10, 2018 19:22
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MikeCrotch posted:LARP nerds get real mad if you do this to them fyi People get mad about it here (and it's against the rules of the ones in my experience) because it's potentially dangerous to have two people struggling for control of a long rod especially in a more confused fight.
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May 10, 2018 19:25
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Lake Effect posted:Is a rifled shotgun a thing that exists? Yes. But put me down on the side of "it's a random ornament, not a real projectile."
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May 10, 2018 19:30
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Kafouille posted:It's too small to be a field piece, and a rifled solid shot would be quite unusual. They had them in the American Civil War.
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May 10, 2018 19:34
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bewbies posted:I liked this thing about the Bismarck and Swordfish He's pretty good, I did a podcast with him recently.
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May 10, 2018 19:35
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I enjoyed his comment of the Bismarck being advanced though. I guess compared to other German vessels it was.
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The Hotchkiss 37x94r sort of has the general appearance, and the 1-inch Nordenfelt had solid shot because apparently 400g was the minimum allowed size for explosive bullets, and that thing looks to be about 1 inch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-inch_Nordenfelt_gun It's very probably some victorian / WW1 era autocannon round but I can't find the exact one.
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May 10, 2018 20:23
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Phanatic posted:For that matter, look at Cambodia, China, Zimbabwe, and South Africa to see what happens when you take a bunch of people who aren't farmers and tell them to start being farmers. The Zimbabwe example is a complex one, because that land seizure programme was designed to not work. There was a structured and achievable land reform programme in place after the end of the Bush War, but it was based on the UK kicking in money for voluntary sales of white owned land. The UK government under Blair raised issues with the land reform process as they reckoned it was benefiting only black elites (which in fairness was 100% true). Clare Short wrote a stunningly tone deaf letter saying the UK didn't recognise any responsibility for Zim land reform because a) the labour party was historically anti colonialism, and b) she was ethnically Irish anyway (seriously, read it, it's loving bananas). Mugabe, rightly or wrongly, assumed this was a prelude to the UK backing out of their responsibilities. Short denies this, but based on the letter you can absolutely see why that conclusion was drawn. Mugabe's government introduced a deliberately extreme version of land reform, on the assumption that the threat to white farmers would force the UK back to the negotiating table. The UK shrugged, most white farmers moved into cities or left the country, and a bunch of military veterans and political bigwigs got control of farms they had no idea what to do with. I'm no apologist for Mugabe, but he never thought for a moment that uncontrolled land seizures by military veterans was a sustainable agricultural strategy. It was a massive cock up driven by a complete lack of mutual misunderstanding.
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MikeCrotch posted:People get mad when you use to actual skill to rob them of their one thing. Same when you use a shield or buckler to parry their polearm into the ground and then wail on them with a sword or w/e god i hate larpers HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 20:41 on May 10, 2018 |
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May 10, 2018 20:34
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:They're not ceremonial, what gave you that idea?
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May 10, 2018 20:50
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occamsnailfile posted:On the two-handed sword chat, how did guys carry those around? Like this. This is somewhat cartoonist, but crossguard behind the shoulder, pommel in the hand, blade bare seems to be the way. The blade would be in a scabbard if you were on the march. People also stand with them point on the ground, which is how most of the montante "lessons" begin.
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:Like this. This is somewhat cartoonist, but crossguard behind the shoulder, pommel in the hand, blade bare seems to be the way. The blade would be in a scabbard if you were on the march. People also stand with them point on the ground, which is how most of the montante "lessons" begin. "All my money is spent"?
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ChubbyChecker posted:"All my money is spent"? Yeah. In the original it's clear that there's a hole in his purse and coins are falling out. This looks like a photo copy but it was the first result and clearly shows what was necessary for the question asked.
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