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nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Geoj posted:


Same thing with the Amish. One of my early jobs was delivering interior trim and doors to new construction homes. Ran across more than one Amish flooring or roofing crew using a gas-powered air compressor and pneumatic nailers, despite their entire religion/society eschewing any technology invented after the 18th century.

The Amish aren't strictly prohibited form using everything from 1800 or whatever. They are allowed to use what is necessary to complete the job, though it will be approved by a group.
For example, amish dairies all have refrigeration.

https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2013/09/02/217287028/amish-community-not-anti-technology-just-more-thoughful

nm fucked around with this message at 07:12 on May 14, 2018

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


angryrobots posted:

My stove has a Sabbath mode, where you can set it to come on the day before and it will begin cooking at the preset time. Because that isn't "work", while actually setting the dial when you need it, is "work".

Taking your cooked lamb or whatever out of the oven is ok, apparently. ما شاء الله

I am completely oblivious to Jewish customs - but all I see from the Sabbath is a way for me to make a bundle of cash by being hired by a family to press buttons stuff.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Humphreys posted:

I am completely oblivious to Jewish customs - but all I see from the Sabbath is a way for me to make a bundle of cash by being hired by a family to press buttons stuff.

You do that, I'm going to buy a cherrypicker and charge $100,00 per year to tie some fishing line round some lightpoles.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Tide posted:

Why the gently caress does a refrigerator need wifi?

...so it can order things when you run out (but also sell your purchasing habit info to supermarkets and such).

gently caress 'smart' products forever.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Olympic Mathlete posted:

...so it can order things when you run out (but also sell your purchasing habit info to supermarkets and such).

gently caress 'smart' products forever.

We're in the process of switching to a different coffee machine vendor at my workplace, because the current machines and coffee we get are both unmitigated poo poo. So there's been a tasting test with around 60 employees participating, and they've narrowed down the field, so we now basically have two to choose from, and everyone has been invited to try out the machines.

Both are supposedly "high-end" machines with "high-end" beans, the very best these companies can offer, and the best two choices from the entire field according to our own employees who participated in the test.

And they both suck gigantic amounts of rear end. They have big-rear end touchscreens with lousy sensitivity, horrible UI design and pointless video playback features, super finicky cup sensors, and one of them even has a completely and utterly stupid cargo cult-style pressure indicator, which serves absolutely no purpose (there are no manual controls on either machine), other than making stupid people go "ooh" and "aah" at it.

Worst of all, the coffee is entirely bland and unremarkable. This is supposedly the highest quality coffee these companies offer, made on the very best machines they offer, and just tastes completely empty, with no body at all. Honestly, I make vastly better coffee at home with a $2 plastic filter holder, paper filters and fresh-ground supermarket coffee.

It's an absolute disgrace. But I'm sure the machines can phone home and order more beans or whatever.

KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 12:32 on May 14, 2018

jabadoo
Aug 10, 2004

Humphreys posted:

I am completely oblivious to Jewish customs - but all I see from the Sabbath is a way for me to make a bundle of cash by being hired by a family to press buttons stuff.

it's a thing, but I think mostly voluntary.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabbos_goy

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

KozmoNaut posted:

We're in the process of switching to a different coffee machine vendor at my workplace, because the current machines and coffee we get are both unmitigated poo poo. So there's been a tasting test with around 60 employees participating, and they've narrowed down the field, so we now basically have two to choose from, and everyone has been invited to try out the machines.

Both are supposedly "high-end" machines with "high-end" beans, the very best these companies can offer, and the best two choices from the entire field according to our own employees who participated in the test.

And they both suck gigantic amounts of rear end. They have big-rear end touchscreens with lousy sensitivity, horrible UI design and pointless video playback features, super finicky cup sensors, and one of them even has a completely and utterly stupid cargo cult-style pressure indicator, which serves absolutely no purpose (there are no manual controls on either machine), other than making stupid people go "ooh" and "aah" at it.

Worst of all, the coffee is entirely bland and unremarkable. This is supposedly the highest quality coffee these companies offer, made on the very best machines they offer, and just tastes completely empty, with no body at all. Honestly, I make vastly better coffee at home with a $2 plastic filter holder, paper filters and fresh-ground supermarket coffee.

It's an absolute disgrace. But I'm sure the machines can phone home and order more beans or whatever.

It's not great but ages ago I got a cup with built-in French press like this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00DB4JY72/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Nwx-Ab4CKZ6PB

You drink from above the press so the last half of your coffee gets stronger and bitter but it's still a million times better than machine coffee.

bolind
Jun 19, 2005



Pillbug

KozmoNaut posted:

We're in the process of switching to a different coffee machine vendor at my workplace, because the current machines and coffee we get are both unmitigated poo poo. So there's been a tasting test with around 60 employees participating, and they've narrowed down the field, so we now basically have two to choose from, and everyone has been invited to try out the machines.

Both are supposedly "high-end" machines with "high-end" beans, the very best these companies can offer, and the best two choices from the entire field according to our own employees who participated in the test.

And they both suck gigantic amounts of rear end. They have big-rear end touchscreens with lousy sensitivity, horrible UI design and pointless video playback features, super finicky cup sensors, and one of them even has a completely and utterly stupid cargo cult-style pressure indicator, which serves absolutely no purpose (there are no manual controls on either machine), other than making stupid people go "ooh" and "aah" at it.

Worst of all, the coffee is entirely bland and unremarkable. This is supposedly the highest quality coffee these companies offer, made on the very best machines they offer, and just tastes completely empty, with no body at all. Honestly, I make vastly better coffee at home with a $2 plastic filter holder, paper filters and fresh-ground supermarket coffee.

It's an absolute disgrace. But I'm sure the machines can phone home and order more beans or whatever.

Company coffee is (almost) always poo poo. At my previous place, we had a giant three-group Italian motherfucker of an espresso machine, literally the price of a small car. Fed it decent beans too through a non-lovely grinder. Cue people never cleaning anything so everything tasted like rear end after two weeks and the brewheads looked like the back of an asphalt truck.

But I'm sure the vendors charge out the rear end for the machines and consumables.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


No pricing information has been published, but yeah I expect it to be horribly expensive.

I'll just continue drinking my morning coffee at home, in old-fashioned pour over style.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
As silly as religious edicts generally are, it's often interesting to see the workarounds and adaptations that come into play.

IIRC McDonald's filet o'fish was the idea of some enterprising bugger with a franchise in a Catholic area.

bolind
Jun 19, 2005



Pillbug
My old man and I spent most of Saturday clearing out the house we bought. That's actually the seller's job, should've loving been way more stern about that. Then we found a bottle of parathion :stare: Which, for the uninitiated, is a VERY toxic pesticide which has been banned for at least four decades.

Then Sunday my wife starts to explore the wilderness that is the garden and comes back to report that there's a whole shed that we didn't realize was there. Full of more junk.

I'm going to enjoy a pint of the best craft IPA in my possession when that thing is demoed holy gently caress. I'm almost looking more forward to that than the new house.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

KozmoNaut posted:

We're in the process of switching to a different coffee machine vendor at my workplace

When switching coffee machines is a "process" that requires input and evaluation, you've got to see that there's some prioritization problems, or y'all just don't have enough work to do.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Seminal Flu posted:

When switching coffee machines is a "process" that requires input and evaluation, you've got to see that there's some prioritization problems, or y'all just don't have enough work to do.

It's a 5000+ employee company, there are so many people here who've carved out their own little "important" niche and fight tooth-and-nail to make it seem really important.

gently caress, I hate bureaucracy.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

bolind posted:

Then we found a bottle of parathion :stare: Which, for the uninitiated, is a VERY toxic pesticide which has been banned for at least four decades.
That sorts out clearing the no doubt overgrown back garden, then.

Edit: misread it as being a herbicide. Ah well. I'm sure it'll come in handy for something.

InitialDave fucked around with this message at 14:23 on May 14, 2018

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Seat Safety Switch posted:

If I act like a child with a terminal illness will you help me finally get the dinner I deserve? I got to 3rd once solo.

Most of the time in squad I spend accurately calling out partially concealed snipers so the Chinese gold farmers I am playing with can dodge them and get to the boat where they camp out for the rest of the match.

I typically call out snipers and other hidden opponents... by catching a bullet from them. I am a literal bullet magnet in most shooting games. Any game that lets you have a emblem or spray, I craft a bullet magnet emblem. It's my motto on Live.

bolind posted:

Company coffee is (almost) always poo poo. At my previous place, we had a giant three-group Italian motherfucker of an espresso machine, literally the price of a small car. Fed it decent beans too through a non-lovely grinder. Cue people never cleaning anything so everything tasted like rear end after two weeks and the brewheads looked like the back of an asphalt truck.

But I'm sure the vendors charge out the rear end for the machines and consumables.

They have a Mars Flavia Barista machine on every floor where I am now, and those seem to work well, for what they are. If nothing else, they don't require cleaning, because they use coffee packs with built in nozzles, so that's never a problem. We also have traditional coffee machines with vacuum flasks, but since those depend on someone cleaning them and putting in the grounds properly, no thanks. I'm no kind of coffee gourmet, but I do know when it's nasty.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗
I just keep my French press, a grinder and some beans at work.

I lived with lovely coffee for too long I'm the military to deal with it now. This also makes me very popular somehow, thanks to it being a fairly small office. It's really odd.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




I don't drink coffee and never have. My friends all thought this would change with a newborn, and I'm still staying awake. Mostly.

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica
Manufacturer of the new bed for my truck shipped it via Day & Ross. It arrived in Brampton on the 5th. It is now the 13th and after several phonecalls last week I was told to wait until they contact me.

I called today, 9 days after it arrived there, and have just been told it's been put into warehouse storage for reasons unexplained. I've been on hold for 15 minutes trying to find out what those reasons are.

The long and short of it is this, at what point can I call the police and report this as theft over $5k?

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Fermented Tinal posted:

Manufacturer of the new bed for my truck shipped it via Day & Ross. It arrived in Brampton on the 5th. It is now the 13th and after several phonecalls last week I was told to wait until they contact me.

I called today, 9 days after it arrived there, and have just been told it's been put into warehouse storage for reasons unexplained. I've been on hold for 15 minutes trying to find out what those reasons are.

The long and short of it is this, at what point can I call the police and report this as theft over $5k?

Calling youre credit card company and disputing the charge sometimes gives people akick up the backside

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


InitialDave posted:

As silly as religious edicts generally are, it's often interesting to see the workarounds and adaptations that come into play.

IIRC McDonald's filet o'fish was the idea of some enterprising bugger with a franchise in a Catholic area.

I believe the church stated Capybara was a fish due to missionaries in the amazon dying of hunger due to their inability to catch enough to eat. Same with beavers in North America apparently, due to both animals spending most of their time in water that was good enough reason to classify them as fish.

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost

bolind posted:

My old man and I spent most of Saturday clearing out the house we bought. That's actually the seller's job, should've loving been way more stern about that. Then we found a bottle of parathion :stare: Which, for the uninitiated, is a VERY toxic pesticide which has been banned for at least four decades.

Then Sunday my wife starts to explore the wilderness that is the garden and comes back to report that there's a whole shed that we didn't realize was there. Full of more junk.

I'm going to enjoy a pint of the best craft IPA in my possession when that thing is demoed holy gently caress. I'm almost looking more forward to that than the new house.

Yeah, a good side-yard clean-out was how we found our portal to Hell.

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica

spog posted:

Calling youre credit card company and disputing the charge sometimes gives people akick up the backside

I paid the manufacturer of the bed via a bank draft and they in turn paid Day & Ross to ship it. I didn't have the credit limit to pay for the bed and didn't feel like moving money from one bank to another just to overpay on my CC for that.

This isn't the manufacturer's fault, it's someone in Brampton at Day & Ross who's dropped the ball and decided to not do their job by contacting me when it was ready and instead sent it to the warehouse.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


spog posted:

Calling youre credit card company and disputing the charge sometimes gives people akick up the backside

Sounds good to me. Aside from the threat of law, removing money seems to be the only effective motivator for some businesses.
I like the idea of reporting it as theft, though, because effectively, it is.

Whacked a rock while mowing a while back. Bent the blade pretty good. Enough so that I noticed it cutting lower. I removed it and straightened it enough to finish the job, but it still caught on some exposed tree roots in the back yard. Ordered a new one and a new spark plug from Amazon (because way cheaper than the local home stores, which don't carry the correct plug for literally the most common Briggs engine ever made, at least not in OEM or Champion. All they have is E3 and some other poo poo brand I've never heard of) since I hadn't done th tune up fro the year.

Guess the blade really needed to be changed, even discounting the bendy bit:



Getting a bit thin there:


Whoops:


Still need to change the oil, for which I need straight 30W non-detergent, if I remember correctly.

edit: huh. SAE 30, normal detergent (SF, SG, SH, SJ,etc.) is the usual recommended oil, but 10W-30 is recommended for lower temps at the cost of increased consumption, and B&S says that synthetic is acceptable at all temperatures. 15W-30 synthetic for my usage temperature range, though 5W-30 will work as well. So, basically, almost anything I normally have in the garage...

Darchangel fucked around with this message at 16:37 on May 14, 2018

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
So one of the residents just followed me as I walked the grounds, loudly complaining about the grass being too tall when it was just cut on friday.

Yay for new experiences!

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

iwentdoodie posted:

I just keep my French press, a grinder and some beans at work.

I lived with lovely coffee for too long I'm the military to deal with it now. This also makes me very popular somehow, thanks to it being a fairly small office. It's really odd.

Oh god the poo poo coffee in the air force is what forced me to the japanese vending machines when I worked graveyard shift, never was a coffee drinker until then. thank god for good japanese coffee dispensed out of machine in a can, hot or cold, just the way you like it (heavy cream/light sugar, black, just sugar, just cream, etc.)

tetrapyloctomy posted:

Yeah, a good side-yard clean-out was how we found our portal to Hell.


:stare:

That's.....something

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

What the gently caress Hulu? Every time I ignore it for a bit (leaving it as background noise), it always winds up going to...

Golden Girls.

I never liked the show, never watched it on Hulu, but it always goes to Golden Girls when it runs out of episodes of, say, Archer. :argh:

Larrymer posted:

I don't drink coffee and never have. My friends all thought this would change with a newborn, and I'm still staying awake. Mostly.

I used to love coffee, but generally only drank it at work when I worked in offices (also guzzled it at AA meetings). Yeah, it was usually garbage coffee, but enough cream and sugar helped cover it up.

When the beetus came knocking, I cut soft drinks out of my diet entirely, which was 99% of my caffeine (and sugar) intake after leaving the cubicle life. Now a nice cup of coffee makes me jittery as poo poo and sends my blood pressure into low orbit. :sigh: Even decaf makes me a bit jittery (shocked face, decaf still has some caffeine - not much, but it's there).

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 18:25 on May 14, 2018

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

And if you threw a party, invited everyone you knew...

Golden girls owns.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Blanche is the spitting image of one of my aunts (well, how she looked in the 80s, anyway). It creeps me out just a bit.

freelop
Apr 28, 2013

Where we're going, we won't need fries to see



Our house was pretty dirty when we bought it and had came with all the contents the previous person living there (2 owners ago) including 6 month old milk, furniture, a TV and a box of parachute flares which the police didn't appreciate me turning up on their doorstep with.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON
Coffee chat, I am make a 1 liter French press every morning and fill a small 16 ounce tumbler for the drive in and my 22 ounce Zojirushi vacuum flask for the rest of the morning. The vacuum flask keeps the coffee hot enough that I'm forced to sip it from start to finish, so it usually lasts the whole morning.

Of course, this has ruined coffee for me anywhere else that isn't a coffee shop.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

freelop posted:

Our house was pretty dirty when we bought it and had came with all the contents the previous person living there (2 owners ago) including 6 month old milk, furniture, a TV and a box of parachute flares which the police didn't appreciate me turning up on their doorstep with.
The best way I can put how I'd react to finding that in a property:



All I found in my house when I bought it was 500 wiper blades in kit form :wtc:.

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost

Applebees Appetizer posted:

:stare:

That's.....something

What's funny is that it is actually really close to the driveway, and totally is visible from the road now that the brush is cleared, and yet we had no idea it was there for about a year.

The perspective makes it look weird, but that strip of asphalt is a very busy road maybe ten feet away from the upper parking spot.

Alternatively, the portal WASN'T there when we moved in, and later made its appearance.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Picked up a bottle of copper dog 🐕 whiskey at Costco, it's quite nice. Then I tried it with a drop of apple juice. loving revelation, this is amazing.

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

STR posted:

Blanche is the spitting image of one of my aunts (well, how she looked in the 80s, anyway). It creeps me out just a bit.

Her style was pretty drat popular in the 80s, there were leagues of middle aged/early senior women who looked almost exactly like Rue McClanahan in the day.

An old ladies rippin savage burns on each other while Betty White goofs off will never not be funny.

freelop
Apr 28, 2013

Where we're going, we won't need fries to see



InitialDave posted:

The best way I can put how I'd react to finding that in a property:



All I found in my house when I bought it was 500 wiper blades in kit form :wtc:.

The coast guard ignored my quip about disposing of them in a fire.

Oddly I couldn't give them to then because they were on land and thus it was a police matter

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003






slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Fermented Tinal posted:

I paid the manufacturer of the bed via a bank draft and they in turn paid Day & Ross to ship it. I didn't have the credit limit to pay for the bed and didn't feel like moving money from one bank to another just to overpay on my CC for that.

This isn't the manufacturer's fault, it's someone in Brampton at Day & Ross who's dropped the ball and decided to not do their job by contacting me when it was ready and instead sent it to the warehouse.
Did they prepay the freight for you or was it sent collect? If it's prepaid and even if it isn't their fault (or, it might be you don't know what the issue is - maybe the f'd up paperwork?) but my suggestion would be to ask the shipper to contact them and ask them to find out what the deal is. All you know is it's late and you paid in full and still don't have what you paid for. They probably have more weight to throw around and the trucking company probably cares more about them.

e: Who here has a beard?

While I was on holidays I didn't shave. So now I haven't shaved for over 2 weeks and I don't mind the look (I was told outright by a woman at work that if I wasn't married she'd take me home RIGHT THEN and ride me ragged) it's a pain to groom, and to be honest I'm not entirely sure how to best do it. Also, I now need to wear beard nets when I go into food environments.

I think I'm shaving it off tomorrow.

slidebite fucked around with this message at 20:08 on May 14, 2018

Magnus Praeda
Jul 18, 2003
The largess in the land.

slidebite posted:

e: Who here has a beard?

While I was on holidays I didn't shave. So now I haven't shaved for over 2 weeks and I don't mind the look (I was told outright by a woman at work that if I wasn't married she'd take me home RIGHT THEN and ride me ragged) it's a pain to groom, and to be honest I'm not entirely sure how to best do it. Also, I now need to wear beard nets when I go into food environments.

I think I'm shaving it off tomorrow.

I've had a beard of some kind for 15-16 years at this point (as in: I haven't been clean-shaved at any time since I was 17 or 18). Right now I've got the full beard going but it was a goatee for most of that time. As long as it's neatly trimmed, my wife digs the full beard but I'll probably go back to just the goatee now that summer's coming on.

If you can find a good barber (not a "hair stylist"), they can show you some good techniques for trimming and maintaining it. Really every man should have a good barber, though.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Beard chat: I hate shaving, only reason I have a beard. I buzz it off when it starts itching (generally every 2 weeks). I might do an actual shave once every 6 weeks.

Despite how hairy I am, I can't seem to grow a good looking beard anyway.

NumbersMatching320 posted:

Her style was pretty drat popular in the 80s, there were leagues of middle aged/early senior women who looked almost exactly like Rue McClanahan in the day.

Trust me, I know... my aunt looked EXACTLY like her, and my mother was dressing similarly. Except mom had bigger/longer hair.

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Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Just trimmed mine down a bit. It was getting too mountain man. I actually liked it, but harder to keep neat, and a little annoying sometimes. I usually trim pretty close (like, the longest guard on the beard trimmer) but decided to let it go for a couple months. Now that summer's starting to show up, it may go back to being a goatee.
Nice only having to shave under my chin, though.

Protip: use shampoo and conditioner on the beard. Less itch, ladies like it more.

edit: every time I shave completely I get ths:


Except I'm not nearly so manly to begin with. I look like more of a doof without my chin fur.

Darchangel fucked around with this message at 22:28 on May 14, 2018

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