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Epicurius posted:They're humoring Odo? I like this. I like this answer. They're talking slow and loud to the slow changeling.
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I'm fairly certain that's the answer given in the show, that they wanted to present themselves in a way that would be comfortable for Odo/the viewer.
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May 14, 2018 03:49
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Lexx is straight up a bad show. It's repetitive and lacks charisma. It has a lot of rock stupid jokes. It had a troubled production with tonal shifts from season to season. I'm surprised it ever made it to four seasons. I tried to watch it and never laughed or cared about the characters. Farscape on the other hand is great, even if it does occasionally get soap-opera-ish like most 90s/2000s scifi.
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Tom Guycot posted:I always found it so strange, that since the only reason odo looked all melty faced was because he sucked at being a changeling, and the other changlings could impersonate people down to the smallest detail, why they all also look all melty in their "natural" state. I figure it's just easier for them, they're just schlubbing it like when you throw on sweatpants to go to the grocery store. Probably the reason Odo looks like that is it's the easiest humanoid face Changelings can make.
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May 14, 2018 04:18
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I couldn’t get into Farscape at all, even after 5 or 6 episodes.
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Zesty posted:I don't even know what the gently caress but I'm strangely interested in how this shows continues. This is exactly the reaction I had when I got into Lexx, except it was near the end of season 2 with the musical episode. Holds a special place in my heart as the weirdest show I've ever watched, which is a great part of its appeal. Even Farscape wasn't as bonkers, there's just nothing else like it. Big Mean Jerk posted:I couldn’t get into Farscape at all, even after 5 or 6 episodes. You haven't gotten to any of the good ones yet. It's something like Babylon 5 in that respect, it takes quite a while to really pick up, but when it does it gets good, then great, then incredible.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I couldn’t get into Farscape at all, even after 5 or 6 episodes. it's pretty rough until scorpius shows up
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I didn't get into Farscape until I saw a marathon of it while hopped up on cold meds with a lovely flu Your time will come
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:You haven't gotten to any of the good ones yet. It's something like Babylon 5 in that respect, it takes quite a while to really pick up, but when it does it gets good, then great, then incredible.
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May 14, 2018 04:58
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Nessus posted:Are you sure it isn't Stockholm syndrome? Maybe Scorpholm syndrome
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May 14, 2018 05:02
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I believe in her first appearance, the Founder Leader says essentially that she is choosing to present herself to look more like Odo. Come to think of it, we don’t really see any other Founders in their ‘base’ solid state except her and Laas. There are other changelings but they are all impersonating someone else.
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Its kind of hard to explain how different Farscape was when it premiered -- Muppet aliens and a weird ship with some care taken to what the inhabitants of Moya are like and what their species' quirks are and no real love for exploring the unknown or pushing the boundaries of human knowledge. Plus the music theme was all chanty. It wasnt trying to be Star Trek. Hell, we learn that Zahn cums when exposed to big suns and D'argo needs some S&M when badly hurt or else he dies. It was really different so that alone got us through the first season.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I couldn’t get into Farscape at all, even after 5 or 6 episodes. Like everyone else has said, the show doesn't take off until they introduce Scorpius near the end of season 1. There's a neat call backs to some of the first dozen or so episodes of season 1 in season 2 but most of them are skippable. The show becomes (mostly) serialized at the end of the first season and it really only has a couple of hiccups in the middle of season 4. I've watched all of Star Trek a couple times over but Farscape is by far my favourite scifi series of all time.
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Also skip Jeremiah Crichton unless you have the DVD, in which case turn on the commentary track and let the cast riff on how bad an episode it is.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I couldn’t get into Farscape at all, even after 5 or 6 episodes. Good news ! The season arc that gets into the good stuff starts in episode 7. You can skip 14 (Jeremiah Crichton). If you feel like things are lagging, skip to 19 (Nerve) and strap the gently caress in. Things really don't slow down after that. Ever.
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Farscape is always one of those shows I’ve meant to watch beginning to end. When I was watching on its original run, I dipped out about the episode 5-6 mark, and then didn’t look again till later in the season, so there were new characters and I didn’t know what was going on. That pattern continued over the years every time I’d look in, a bunch of new characters on the ship and insanity.
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May 14, 2018 08:46
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I couldn’t get into Farscape at all, even after 5 or 6 episodes. I would say you stopped right short of where it starts to get good. Lots of folks here are saying it gets better when Scorpius shows up, but PK Tech Girl, That Old Black Magic, and DNA Mad Scientist are all good poo poo. Or you can jump ahead to Durka Returns and A Human Reaction, skip Looking Glass, then the rest of the season rules.
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I gave up on Farscape after three or four episodes, and now don't have enough free time to give it another shot.  As for Lexx, do what I did and watch the miniseries, then stop. (I actually watched for a few episodes of the series proper after Zev was replaced by Xev, or whichever way round it was, and felt I would have been better off stopping sooner.)
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FlamingLiberal posted:I believe in her first appearance, the Founder Leader says essentially that she is choosing to present herself to look more like Odo. The changeling that died in the Defiant while tusslin' with Odo took on a 'base' state that looked a lot like him, but different, like the female changeling. This was just as 'he' knocked out O'Brien and some goldshirt and then tried one last time to convince Odo to abandon them and come with him to escape, though, so likely, again, going with the 'deliberately looking like Odo' reasoning.
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Payndz posted:As for Lexx, do what I did and watch the miniseries, then stop. (I actually watched for a few episodes of the series proper after Zev was replaced by Xev, or whichever way round it was, and felt I would have been better off stopping sooner.) You missed Xevivor Island because you stopped several seasons too early 
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Farscape is legit good after season 1. The first few are bad though-- like TNG S1 levels bad.
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so do Klingons just grow up faster than humans cuz Alexander can't have been conceived more than a year before this season 4 episode I'm watching
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The short answer is "probably yes". The slightly less short answer is no one actually bothered thinking of this before they wrote the episode.
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May 15, 2018 01:47
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Yes. Toral grows up similarly fast.
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Nodosaur posted:Do we know if B'Elanna aged at a Klingon rate or a human rate? It's been a while since I saw Voyager. So, he's the perfect representative for the Klingon race, then?
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EimiYoshikawa posted:So, he's the perfect representative for the Klingon race, then? He's the perfect representative of a Klingon noble, in their feudal society. Martok on the other hand is a commoner. The two of them cover what Klingons are actually like pretty well.
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I think it's that Gowron is the preferred candidate because he didn't assassinate the previous Chancellor. It's not so much that he's the "good" candidate, just the less poisony one.
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Gowron also isn't in bed with the loving sharp-ears.
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Epicurius posted:I think it's that Gowron is the preferred candidate because he didn't assassinate the previous Chancellor. It's not so much that he's the "good" candidate, just the less poisony one. Actually, Gowron owns and he Made Qo'noS Great Again.
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It really is a shame he put his own ego and paranoia above the good of the Empire. Martok never would've been a challenger to the throne in a million years, not with his commoner background...and, y'know, loyalty and common sense and pragmatism and not wanting to be a politician and
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EimiYoshikawa posted:It really is a shame he put his own ego and paranoia above the good of the Empire. It's a pretty normal way for villains to engineer their own demise: they assume everyone's as self-serving and ambitious as they are. Gowron saw Martok's total lack of interest in the throne as proof of his supreme cunning and desire for the throne. Because that's how Gowron would do it in Martok's position. By all accounts Gowron is a pretty good chancellor throughout his run, he just ends up engineering his own demise at the end out of paranoia.
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Why is anyone watching Lexx if there are other sci-fi shows they haven't seen? Lexx is the bottom. That's the layer of caked mud right under the barrel. You can only properly watch Lexx if you have seen every other second of sci-fi ever filmed for TV, it's 3 AM, and you know you can't sleep so you're going to watch something. Anything. Then you see Lexx.
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EimiYoshikawa posted:It really is a shame he put his own ego and paranoia above the good of the Empire. I mean I kinda figure the Klingon Empire has a lot of stuff like the Roman Empire where a popular general realizes he has an army that's utterly loyal to him and can go grab the throne. Even though WE know Martok wouldn't it makes sense to me that Gowron WOULD think he might.
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Gorelab posted:I mean I kinda figure the Klingon Empire has a lot of stuff like the Roman Empire where a popular general realizes he has an army that's utterly loyal to him and can go grab the throne. Even though WE know Martok wouldn't it makes sense to me that Gowron WOULD think he might. For large chunks of Byzantine history the two ways to obtain the throne that seemed legitimate to the populace were: 1) be crowned co-emperor during your predecessor's lifetime 2) win a civil war Like, there was no codification of a peaceful way to resolve succession when there were no emperors. The expectation was a civil war and at a not-insignificant portion of the populace thought that this resulted in better emperors. I would be utterly unsurprised if this was true for the Klingons before the establishment of the high council and if at least some people pined for those days.
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Gowron is the preferred candidate for chancellor because his eyes are fuckin crazy, man
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The first ninety seconds of Lexx are the best part of the show. Not even joking. However it is still a far better use of your time than Andromeda or Caprica.
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