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Rhyno posted:Once upon a time I loved his work but man, finding out what kind of man he was really soured me. That said, I do still own the DC collections of his post COIE run. I've still got a bunch of his She-Hulk issues, all of Next Men. I remember getting on AOL in like 1993 and he did some Q&A chat and thinking it was so cool that I got to ask a famous person a question.
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davebo posted:I've still got a bunch of his She-Hulk issues, all of Next Men. I remember getting on AOL in like 1993 and he did some Q&A chat and thinking it was so cool that I got to ask a famous person a question. Thos AOL years were great. Especially when a bunch of people made screen names lampooning his JohnLByrne account.
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May 15, 2018 21:54
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Rhyno posted:Thos AOL years were great. Especially when a bunch of people made screen names lampooning his JohnLByrne account. Was JohnByrne already taken? -Skwirl
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May 15, 2018 21:56
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Yes and I believe he was asked about it and went on a classic Byrne rant over it as well.
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May 15, 2018 22:02
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Rhyno posted:Yes and I believe he was asked about it and went on a classic Byrne rant over it as well. I guess JohnLByrne is better than xxxJohnByrne420xxx, but that's still loving hilarious. -Skwirl
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May 15, 2018 22:14
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John Byrne's Wikiquote entry is, in several places, a masterpiece of juxtaposition. The Neil Gaiman Eternals quote leading into the Lee/Kirby Thor quote is  but there are others in there.
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May 15, 2018 22:45
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Byrne once boasted that he stood up to Shooter in defence of Alex Saviuk in the middle of the office and the entire bullpen applauded.
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May 15, 2018 22:55
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Wheat Loaf posted:Byrne once boasted that he stood up to Shooter in defence of Alex Saviuk in the middle of the office and the entire bullpen applauded. He's also argued extensively that he should be allowed to use the N-word. Since you know, black people use it.
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May 15, 2018 23:02
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davebo posted:Well if they don't want the older fans then there's really no point catering to us like they have been recently. I'm just saying if they're gonna keep it up then they'll end up with some of us anyway. Sort of like how Honda came out with the Element and thought it'd be a big hit with young hip kids then it was bought overwhelmingly by seniors. They want people that will buy single issues every week, not a guy that only buys it on sale months after its out.
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May 15, 2018 23:09
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Roth posted:They want people that will buy single issues every week, not a guy that only buys it on sale months after its out. Yeah this is what I was trying to get at.
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May 16, 2018 00:41
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I got my LCS to get me a Rogue and Gambit trade when it comes out in July. I like the time displaced X-men, but the only one I cared about was Jean, but with regular Jean back, their time is up. Oh god the cover for AN Wolverine 35 is so adorable.
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May 16, 2018 04:39
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Roth posted:They want people that will buy single issues every week, not a guy that only buys it on sale months after its out. Yes I fully get what they WANT (money), I just don't think catering to olds will achieve that, but I don't care because it serves my purposes just fine. Marvel makes so much money on the movies and licensing why even care if the comics are profitable at this point? I'm honestly surprised they don't just scale down titles for simplicity's sake. Some sense that dominating the market is only achieved by volume? I suppose there's value in people walking into a comic store and most of what they see are recognizable Marvel characters.
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May 16, 2018 16:14
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davebo posted:Yes I fully get what they WANT (money), I just don't think catering to olds will achieve that, but I don't care because it serves my purposes just fine. Marvel makes so much money on the movies and licensing why even care if the comics are profitable at this point? I'm honestly surprised they don't just scale down titles for simplicity's sake. Some sense that dominating the market is only achieved by volume? I suppose there's value in people walking into a comic store and most of what they see are recognizable Marvel characters. I know I've said this a hundred times before, but I'm certain that at this point paper comics are actually losing money. They're being kept alive because they grant legitimacy to Marvel's movies, TV, games and Underoos, which rake in roughly 23 trillion dollars a year each, making the losses from paper negligible.
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May 16, 2018 18:33
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I don't think that's necessarily true, or books that sold low numbers would continue in perpetuity and books that were big hits wouldn't generate a million spin-offs. If money was irrelevant to these decisions, they wouldn't make much sense. Also, money-making tactics retailers hate, like having to order unrealistic amounts of an issue before you can order its variant covers, would have no reason to exist. If comics were being sold at a loss to generate public awareness of the characters, the industry wouldn't be so obviously constrained by financial concerns.
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May 16, 2018 18:42
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The comic industry topped 1 billion in 2016 but I don't know if it's dipped back below that now. I don't know what the costs are like producing a comic though. Seems like not a whole lot is required. I'd hate to kill off local shops but I wonder if they just had entirely digital distribution at lower prices and a big marketing campaign, if the added readership and revenue would offset all the people who just want to collect a physical comic.
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I don't think they will ever go fully-digital, but I do suspect digital sales will eventually be the main driver of comics sales, and b&m stores will mostly be selling stuff beyond printed comics (and, realistically, the most successful ones at this point are already doing that).
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Android Blues posted:Also, money-making tactics retailers hate, like having to order unrealistic amounts of an issue before you can order its variant covers, would have no reason to exist. If comics were being sold at a loss to generate public awareness of the characters, the industry wouldn't be so obviously constrained by financial concerns. It's not so much as 'giving comics out to raise awareness'. The problem is that the young'uns today simply are not buying paper comics. Some of them get their fix digitally, but most consider comics to be something their grandparents used to read. The oldsters are the only ones with pull lists, and they're becoming increasingly embittered by thirty years of lovely marketing tactics like ^^that^^. Thing is, as long as paper comics are sitting in racks somewhere, it it continues the mindset of "Superheroes are as American as apple pie! Everyone loves superheroes!" Whereas if Marvel (and others) were to pull back publication, or go all digital, it would send the message "Superheroes are passe, go play Fortnite".
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Huh, I had no idea Storm would be an actual recurring teammate character on X-Men: Red. Does that mean she's off the Gold team now? As if I couldn't appreciate this book even more! It does sort of encapsulate the slapdash nature of this roster though, like oh hey, you were in the general vicinity of relevant events occurring, great, you're a main character of this book now! 
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twistedmentat posted:I like the time displaced X-men, but the only one I cared about was Jean, but with regular Jean back, their time is up. They can all go back but Scott. Unless they bring old Scott back. There must always be a Cyclops.
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Codependent Poster posted:They can all go back but Scott. Unless they bring old Scott back. Bring back old Cyclops. Cyclops was right.
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Taylor ended ANW on a really great note, but I have to say that X-Men Red is just so my jam that I actually preferred the fourth issue to the finale of the series of my favourite character. Heck yeah, mermaids!  Abroham Lincoln posted:From the same issue: Metalshark fucked around with this message at 23:24 on May 16, 2018 |
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Metalshark posted:Taylor ended ANW on a really great note, but I have to say that X-Men Red is just so my jam that I actually preferred the fourth issue to the finale of the series of my favourite character. I like X-Men Red, but the art on this last issue was atrocious. I can't pinpoint why this issue was so much worse than the rest, but that's how it felt.
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They always forget the toe blades. That was a great ending, I'm hoping X-23 is a good. The Cap was Dani Cage right?
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Okay so who sent Kitty the bottle of champagne in the Wedding Special?
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pubic works project posted:Okay so who sent Kitty the bottle of champagne in the Wedding Special? Emma. The initials are E. F. Dont feel bad, I though Psylock was Kate Bishop at first. I couldn't identify everyone in the last page. Too many redheads. Racheal is easy, but I can only assume the one on the couch is old Jean. I liked Illyana leather look in that.
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twistedmentat posted:Emma. The initials are E. F. Of course! I thought that was an E, but couldn't tell. I still wouldn't have guessed right. Thanks!
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I can't stop laughing when people refer to Guggenheim's awful Gambit writing as Remy LeBoyo. No idea why he's suddenly got the most stereotypical Welsh (or Irish, where it's actual slang) affectation but he keeps saying "Boyo" and it's the weirdest thing, even by Guggenheim's low, low standards.
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twistedmentat posted:Emma. The initials are E. F. Emma's still a villain right now right?
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Metalshark posted:I can't stop laughing when people refer to Guggenheim's awful Gambit writing as Remy LeBoyo. No idea why he's suddenly got the most stereotypical Welsh (or Irish, where it's actual slang) affectation but he keeps saying "Boyo" and it's the weirdest thing, even by Guggenheim's low, low standards. It is extremely weird. I half-thought, "wait, do Cajun dialect speakers say 'boyo' and I'm just not aware of it?".
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Obviously he’s saying Beaulieu and it’s being spelled phonetically.
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Aphrodite posted:Emma's still a villain right now right? Flip a coin.
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May 17, 2018 23:56
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I'm just saying, champagne isn't kosher. Dick move.
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Aphrodite posted:I'm just saying, champagne isn't kosher. Dick move. There's no way Kitty keeps kosher.
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May 18, 2018 00:29
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Wait, how is alcohol not kosher? This is news to me.
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May 18, 2018 04:02
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Aint kosher if it's not produced by observant faithful apparently.
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Synthbuttrange posted:Aint kosher if it's not produced by observant faithful apparently. So, then, what if it was Kosher Champagne?
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They have kosher Champagne but Emma Frost is not buying no $45 bottle of Champagne.
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Covok posted:Wait, how is alcohol not kosher? This is news to me. Wine has to meet specific guidelines to be considered kosher. Other boozes might be acceptable unless it's passover, depending on what they're made out of.
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Aphrodite posted:They have kosher Champagne but Emma Frost is not buying no $45 bottle of Champagne. Uh, she's the White Queen. If there is anyone buying expensive Champagne, it'd be her. Also, if that's actually cheap for Champagne, I'd just like to say I'm a poor fucker who'd never spend more than 5-10 dollars on a bottle of wine.
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