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Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


iwentdoodie posted:

That's the signal of you being too old to be fun :v:

I haven't liked cars that looked like that since I was like 6. It looks like a robot took a poo poo.

Rhyno posted:

That's what I was hoping to avoid. The freelance guy who had the hookup got C&Ded out of business.

That's interesting, because it's illegal in the US to make it so that only the dealer/factory can service a car. To my mind, that includes the keys. Google "Right to Repair".

Fermented Tinal posted:

It just dawned on me. Look at the front end of my FJ45, and then at the front end of a current gen 4Runner and tell me you think I don't have a Toyota maw.

I don't think the FJ has a maw. I think it has a useful grille. The current 4Runner not only has a maw (though not as bad as Lexus/Camry/etc.), but is making a duckface. too.
It has to do with not just size, but placement, headlights, position, and utility. The current Toyotas just have this sculpted fake thing plastered across their faces. Maybe it's just that I don't like all the plastic? Height? I don't know.

Olympic Mathlete posted:

I could sit here and pick apart this design and tell everyone why it's objectively awful. Instead I'll just say looks wise I'd rather own virtually anything else ever made, it's that bad.

*edit: it gives me this sort of vibe, chavs throwing poo poo at a car simply because they can.



Yes, that, exactly. Chavs. Boy racer. Try hard.

Tide posted:

No sugar. No processed foods. No flour/wheat/etc. No pasta. No rice (this was hard, given how much I love sushi). No potatoes. No HFCS. No soft drinks. No dairy.

Congrats! This is the part I just can't do. I'm trying to cut it down a bit, but Jesus Christ everything that tastes good has starch in it. And no dairy means no cheese, and that's just not going to happen. What's the point of living longer/being healthy if you can't eat tasty stuff? I'm trying for moderation rather then elimination. It would probably help if I exercised a little...
I am trying to avoid HFCS, though. If nothing else because it pisses me off that the corn lobby has their fingers in everything and successfully replaced actual sugar in almost everything.

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Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




Wow, that's insane weight loss. Good job. I was feeling pretty ok since I've lost about 6 lbs recently. :v: Another 7ish pounds and I'll be considered "normal" for BMI vs. overweight for probably the first time in my adult life. Not that I think BMI is really a good indicator of health or fitness...

I just like food and beer too much.

Suburban Dad fucked around with this message at 15:07 on May 16, 2018

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

Tide posted:

Beginning of the year, I weighed 242 lbs (ballooned up after quitting smoking). This morning, I weighed 168 lbs. I basically suffered from a bad diet plus binge eating disorder but without the purge. I have no target weight to get to, other than to just "feel and look good by eating right and exercising". Overcoming the binge eating was the hardest thing. That took more willpower than quitting smoking. There's still times I want to hoover in everything I see. And getting the kid off juices and crappy cereal and such was tough. He loves vegetables and fruits, but also is a chocolate fiend. Both of us were, honestly.

Diet: essentially, it's paleo / keto diet. Water, unsweetened tea, black coffee. Intermittent fasting.
Exercise: some running, walking, biking, yoga, free weights when I can get it in, walking instead of using a cart when i play golf. Try and get at least 30 minutes of something a day. Bought a couple 'standing desk converters' for home and work.

No sugar. No processed foods. No flour/wheat/etc. No pasta. No rice (this was hard, given how much I love sushi). No potatoes. No HFCS. No soft drinks. No dairy.
Great work.

The hard part is keeping it off. Way too easy to fall off the bandwagon and back into old habits. My -50lb one year +50lb the next taught me that.

Also, girlfriend took all my time. Horizontal exercise doesn't replace 1-2 hours a day of cycling. Plus her cooking...

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Darchangel posted:

Congrats! This is the part I just can't do. I'm trying to cut it down a bit, but Jesus Christ everything that tastes good has starch in it. And no dairy means no cheese, and that's just not going to happen. What's the point of living longer/being healthy if you can't eat tasty stuff? I'm trying for moderation rather then elimination. It would probably help if I exercised a little...
I am trying to avoid HFCS, though. If nothing else because it pisses me off that the corn lobby has their fingers in everything and successfully replaced actual sugar in almost everything.

Part of the therapy for me in overcoming the binge eating was coming to the acceptance of food being a fuel and not a pleasure source. That was, and still is, an incredibly hard thing to accept. The thing is, once you eliminate all the 'pleasure foods' from your taste palette, and become accustomed to the relative blandness of 'good' foods, the pleasure foods become so overwhelming that you can't eat them. I tried a cola the other day and just about barfed. It's SO strong and SO sweet that I couldnt take more than just a sip of it.

And to be honest, I want to live long enough to see grandkids.

There's two videos I watch regularly. One is "Sugar: The Bitter Truth" (on youtube) and the other is "The Magic Pill" (on netflix). They are worth a watch.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
Ketoers always come off so culty to me. You really watch two 1hr30min documentaries regularly?

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Cage posted:

Ketoers always come off so culty to me. You really watch two 1hr30min documentaries regularly?

Yeah, just kind of a reminder and as a push not to fall into old bad habits.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Cage posted:

Ketoers always come off so culty to me. You really watch two 1hr30min documentaries regularly?

Everyone I've ever known to do a keto diet has had breath like something has died covered in poo poo in their mouth.

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Olympic Mathlete posted:

Everyone I've ever known to do a keto diet has had breath like something has died covered in poo poo in their mouth.

Can attest to this. Constantly brush my teeth and use mouthwash. It's a downside of the diet when in ketosis.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Glad it's working for you but the reason most diets fail is people set themselves impossible targets then lapse hard. If you can keep that up then go for it. Me, I bake when I get a hankering for something sweet, so I have to put the effort in, I know what's in it and if I eat the whole drat thing I can't have anything else until I make more. Last night was the first time I baked since Christmas, brownies and coffee and walnut cake. I've had one slice of cake.

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
The target is exactly what I didn't set. I didn't set a weight to reach that I considered a success. It was simply "eat this don't eat that and get exercise, the rest will take care of itself". Whatever I weigh is whatever I weigh. I didn't live and die by the scales. Didn't even step on them.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


cakesmith handyman posted:

Glad it's working for you but the reason most diets fail is

...people reach a target weight and then continue eating like they did prior to the diet. It's weird people don't realise it's a thing that needs to be a permanent change rather than a thing you do temporarily in order to hit a specific number or size.

Tide posted:

The target is exactly what I didn't set. I didn't set a weight to reach that I considered a success. It was simply "eat this don't eat that and get exercise, the rest will take care of itself". Whatever I weigh is whatever I weigh. I didn't live and die by the scales. Didn't even step on them.

:hfive:

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:
The point is addictions are terrible and the human brain is a mean jerk.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


KakerMix posted:

The point is addictions are terrible and the human brain is a mean jerk.

Oh God yes. My brain hates me.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Olympic Mathlete posted:

Everyone I've ever known to do a keto diet has had breath like something has died covered in poo poo in their mouth.

:lol:

I don't think one has to resort to any kind of fad diet, if you just improve the quality of your diet in general, avoiding all processed foods and sticking with whole foods you're way ahead of the curve already. There's nothing wrong with whole clean carbs, your body needs carbs and to avoid all carbs completely is silly imo.

Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 17:27 on May 16, 2018

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica
I've been told by nutrionists several times that the best diet is one that has carbs, fat, and protien in it and doesn't target a specific one as evil.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Tide posted:


There's two videos I watch regularly. One is "Sugar: The Bitter Truth" (on youtube) and the other is "The Magic Pill" (on netflix). They are worth a watch.

Be aware that Dr. Lustig has basically no credible sources to back his theories, and the sources he does have are spurious at best.

He makes a lot of claims that are just blatantly untrue.

http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/

It's great that your diet is working, especially if you can keep the weight off. But I think it's mostly because you're thinking about what you eat now, and thus snack a lot less.

The best thing anyone can do is lay off the goddamn snacks, including sugary drinks. It's a super easy thing to do, and gets you 80+% the way to a healthy diet, just by itself.

KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 17:46 on May 16, 2018

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.
A bunch of you guys are computer nerds, right? Any tricks to deal with eye strain from staring at screens most of the day?

I never really had that problem, but the missus keeps complaining that her eyes hurt at work because she's staring at screens for 8 hours

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
The biggest thing is to lower the brightness. Huge. Everyone is staring into the sun all the time.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



The Door Frame posted:

A bunch of you guys are computer nerds, right? Any tricks to deal with eye strain from staring at screens most of the day?

I never really had that problem, but the missus keeps complaining that her eyes hurt at work because she's staring at screens for 8 hours

blue filter glasses

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica
^^^^

The Door Frame posted:

A bunch of you guys are computer nerds, right? Any tricks to deal with eye strain from staring at screens most of the day?

I never really had that problem, but the missus keeps complaining that her eyes hurt at work because she's staring at screens for 8 hours

Ever since I got my new glasses with the anti-blue light coating I've found my eyes are hurting a lot less after staring at a screen for hours on end.

Fermented Tinal fucked around with this message at 18:04 on May 16, 2018

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

The Door Frame posted:

A bunch of you guys are computer nerds, right? Any tricks to deal with eye strain from staring at screens most of the day?

I never really had that problem, but the missus keeps complaining that her eyes hurt at work because she's staring at screens for 8 hours

Break timer every fifteen minutes. Stare at something in the distance, ideally outside. Good time to stretch too.

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

KozmoNaut posted:

Be aware that Dr. Lustig has basically no credible sources to back his theories, and the sources he does have are spurious at best.

He makes a lot of claims that are just blatantly untrue.

http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/

It's great that your diet is working, especially if you can keep the weight off. But I think it's mostly because you're thinking about what you eat now, and thus snack a lot less.

The best thing anyone can do is lay off the goddamn snacks, including sugary drinks. It's a super easy thing to do, and gets you 80+% the way to a healthy diet, just by itself.

The problem with *any* study on dieting or diet...belief? system is that every one of them has a counter. I still snack. It's that my snacks are different (celery vs snickers bar).

My own tinfoil hat response is that there's a vested financial interest in convincing people to eat A rather than B. Whether its the high carb / high fat diet people or the sugar is fine! hfcs is fine! people.

All I know is that once I focused my diet on more natural foods and eliminated processed/enriched crap and sugars/carbs from sugars, weight came off. During the middle of the first week and into the second week, I felt like absolute dog turd. It was the same feeling I had when I quit smoking. But after that, I felt better. My eczema is mostly cleared up. Skin looked better. I slept better. I no longer have to use a CPAP (backed up by a sleep study). My blood profiles are radically better, to the point that at my next check up, I'm hopeful to come off the cholesterol medication.

Then there's the changes in my kid...

Teachers noticed a remarkable improvement in his attention span. He's no longer a bit fidgity or a space cadet. He's never been a behavior problem, but he could be a bit high energy. His focus is better. Could some of that be attributed to simply maturing a bit? Sure. He wasnt fat by ANY stretch but he's put on some lean muscle mass. He's more consistent in a lot of ways.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org

The Door Frame posted:

A bunch of you guys are computer nerds, right? Any tricks to deal with eye strain from staring at screens most of the day?

I never really had that problem, but the missus keeps complaining that her eyes hurt at work because she's staring at screens for 8 hours
Download f.lux. It changes the warmness/color temperature of your screen based on where the sun is.

Cage fucked around with this message at 18:38 on May 16, 2018

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Applebees Appetizer posted:

:lol:

I don't think one has to resort to any kind of fad diet, if you just improve the quality of your diet in general, avoiding all processed foods and sticking with whole foods you're way ahead of the curve already. There's nothing wrong with whole clean carbs, your body needs carbs and to avoid all carbs completely is silly imo.

Well yeah but people get addicted to stuff. It's easy for me to go "nah I don't need that" but others that isn't even a question that comes up. If you make hard sweeping generalizations and cut out all 'carbs' that makes it easy for some people.

I'll continue eating modest portions of everything but I don't have an addiction to deal with while doing it so I won't lapse.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

Olympic Mathlete posted:

...people reach a target weight and then continue eating like they did prior to the diet. It's weird people don't realise it's a thing that needs to be a permanent change rather than a thing you do temporarily in order to hit a specific number or size.


:hfive:
For me winter hit and riding the bike fell off from being a daily thing to being a "gently caress it's too cold out there to ride" thing and just fell out of the habit.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Tide posted:

more natural foods and eliminated processed/enriched crap and sugars/carbs from sugars

Cutting out added sugar is good, and there doesn't need to be any pseudoscience alarmism behind it.

Eat more veggies, cook more at home is also a guideline more people should follow.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

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:kheldragar:

ilkhan posted:

For me winter hit and riding the bike fell off from being a daily thing to being a "gently caress it's too cold out there to ride" thing and just fell out of the habit.

Christ, that's what I've been fighting. I've got a normal cycle of fitness in the summer, gradually fading through the fall, getting fat in the winter and biking it off in the spring-into-summer.

This year hosed me hard. I was sick most of the winter, then the spring weather turbo-sucked for riding. So here I am at the beginning of the season in poo poo for shape, a full 10 pounds over where I should be right now.

Then I started to think what else changed... the loving instant pot has me eating way too much rice and pasta.

So, I'm back on my no-name diet, which consists of a Met-RX meal replacement shake (only chocolate, all the other ones taste like protein rear end to me) in the morning and for lunch (one packet for both meals), then whatever I want in the evening. It's worked for me before, and it's an easy habit to get into.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Tide posted:

The target is exactly what I didn't set. I didn't set a weight to reach that I considered a success. It was simply "eat this don't eat that and get exercise, the rest will take care of itself". Whatever I weigh is whatever I weigh. I didn't live and die by the scales. Didn't even step on them.

I meant "eliminate sugar" or "eliminate carbs" both of which aren't necessary for a healthy sustainable diet and are really difficult changes to sustain. But yes, not hitting target weights or target losses per week can make people think they've failed and give up.

Olympic Mathlete posted:

...people reach a target weight and then continue eating like they did prior to the diet. It's weird people don't realise it's a thing that needs to be a permanent change rather than a thing you do temporarily in order to hit a specific number or size.

That too

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗

cakesmith handyman posted:

I meant "eliminate sugar" or "eliminate carbs" both of which aren't necessary for a healthy sustainable diet and are really difficult changes to sustain. But yes, not hitting target weights or target losses per week can make people think they've failed and give up.


That too

It's really not that hard if you have willpower and a reason.

My wife has a medical condition that basically only works itself out when eating keto, which means I'm usually eating the same way. It's really not a hard change to make, but it is a big one and is a lifestyle change as well not just a changing what you eat thing.

If I didn't love beer so goddamn much I could be nice and skinny again :v:

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

iwentdoodie posted:

It's really not that hard if you have willpower and a reason.


It takes willpower, a reason, and a tremendous amount of effort in the beginning. But once you figure it out in terms of what to buy, what not to buy, etc, it gets easier.

For example, rather than buying big things of brocolli, cauliflower, etc, I'll pick up a veggie tray from costco and use that for a couple to three days. it's the right amount for me and my kid to eat and saves on waste. and it's actually cheaper than buying whole things of broc, cauliflower, etc. just toss the dipping sauce. then use what you need / how you need. it's already cut, ready to be eaten raw or tossed in a skillet or on a tray in the oven.

Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."


cakesmith handyman posted:

I meant "eliminate sugar" or "eliminate carbs" both of which aren't necessary for a healthy sustainable diet and are really difficult changes to sustain. But yes, not hitting target weights or target losses per week can make people think they've failed and give up.


That too

Carbs I'd argue, although cutting them for me leaves me feeling way better.
Sugar is just loving bad for people - I mean, don't "purge it all forever", but people eat SO MUCH SUGAR, and a lot of it is hidden.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.
Dieting is really easy unless you're part of a group that enjoys food and drinks. So if you have no friends or family, it's simple and easy to control, since it's all measured calories in<calories out

I find that the more restrictive, esoteric diets make it easier to go to restaurants and bars, because your choices are extremely limited and hard to get fat off of

FAT32 SHAMER posted:

blue filter glasses

Fermented Tinal posted:

^^^^


Ever since I got my new glasses with the anti-blue light coating I've found my eyes are hurting a lot less after staring at a screen for hours on end.

Do these change the look of colors?

Seat Safety Switch posted:

Break timer every fifteen minutes. Stare at something in the distance, ideally outside. Good time to stretch too.

Couldn't hurt to take a break every once in a while either way, but if it's good for your eyes too...

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

KakerMix posted:

Well yeah but people get addicted to stuff. It's easy for me to go "nah I don't need that" but others that isn't even a question that comes up. If you make hard sweeping generalizations and cut out all 'carbs' that makes it easy for some people.

Cutting out all carbs isn't necessarily good for you though. Dumbing down things works in some situations, but as far as diet goes people should be more informed before going on some fad diet that completely cuts out this or that. Making sweeping generalizations only helps the people selling whatever fad diet is popular at the time.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
My diet is protein good fat not horrible carbs keep em low and sugar keep it low.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
also wendys

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.
I ate a yoghurt today.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

Cage posted:

also taco bell

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Darchangel posted:

That's interesting, because it's illegal in the US to make it so that only the dealer/factory can service a car. To my mind, that includes the keys. Google "Right to Repair".

I do believe locksmithing license was revoked at some point and he continued to run his business anyways.


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KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Applebees Appetizer posted:

Cutting out all carbs isn't necessarily good for you though. Dumbing down things works in some situations, but as far as diet goes people should be more informed before going on some fad diet that completely cuts out this or that. Making sweeping generalizations only helps the people selling whatever fad diet is popular at the time.

I wasn't defending the practice, I'm with you. It's just that to me it seems the reason people jump to keto or Atkins or "_______" diets is because it's a big general sweep change. Carbs = Bad is an easy thing to rationalize in a black and white outlook.

Weight is the easiest thing to understand, put less in the system than comes out. It's just the brain and emotions come into play and gently caress it all up.

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angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

My wife does keto, but it's a limited carb diet, not completely eliminated. It's worked better for her than meticulously counting calories + exercise did, both in results and in the way she feels. Though not getting the regimented cardio anymore isn't really on propose... It's just difficult to maintain with our schedules and family life.

Anyway, I made low carb pancakes on Sunday with carbquick, and they were pretty delicious.

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