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Because 1) Tracer still needs some tweak-y nerfs, as she is still overtuned, and 2) gently caress Tracer.
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Game's literally unplayable. I get huge FPS drops or lag or something? I have no idea. It started a few months ago. Usually the first game has either no drops or infrequent but it gets progressively worse with subsequent games (QP games, by game 3-4 its utterly, completely unplayable). FPS meter shows 120-180 and doesn't show any major change when stuttering happens, latency bounces somewhat, temp no greater than 85C which is probably still too much. Playing on lowest settings, following that popular optimization guide for video settings. If anyone can help me troubleshoot this I can give you a forums upgrade or 
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May 17, 2018 00:04
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Manatee Cannon posted:halloween and uprising are the only ones so far iirc, but that doesn't mean that they won't add more The game youre describing came out and Overwatch obliterated it
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May 17, 2018 00:33
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To be fair, that game was made by Gearbox so it was doomed from the start.
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May 17, 2018 00:35
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Barudak posted:The game youre describing came out and Overwatch obliterated it the game I'm describing is borderlands (which I literally said in that post) and it came out way before overwatch. I don't think that gearbox game was anything like what I was describing
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May 17, 2018 00:43
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Manatee Cannon posted:the game I'm describing is borderlands (which I literally said in that post) and it came out way before overwatch. I don't think that gearbox game was anything like what I was describing It was? It had a campaign mode consisting of co-operative missions that were basically dungeon raids with loot to grind for and all the same character abilities as the main pvp game. Like, there is no more direct comparison.
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May 17, 2018 00:51
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a series of coop missions that you select from a list is very different from borderlands and it didn't have pvp at all. it was just diablo with guns, and this... does not sound like diablo with guns really. if anything it sounds like the strike playlist from destiny
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May 17, 2018 00:53
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porfiria posted:Why is shutting down Tracer specifically important? Tracer got a direct nerf, neo-Hanzo also crushes her, and I'd even guess the Torb rework will hurt her a bit. She's fairly bad right now and presumably will be even if Brig can only instagib her every 6 seconds instead of 5 or whatever. Because Tracer has little to no counters in the game, shes over tuned, and her nerf did nothing to touch her problem areas. Even with Brig, Tracer isn't really countered if she keeps her distance. Honestly, before even touching Brig much more, they should look into toning Tracer down or introducing more solid counters.
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May 17, 2018 01:01
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DeliciousCookie posted:Because Tracer has little to no counters in the game, shes over tuned, and her nerf did nothing to touch her problem areas. Even with Brig, Tracer isn't really countered if she keeps her distance. Honestly, before even touching Brig much more, they should look into toning Tracer down or introducing more solid counters. According to Overbuff she's worse than Genji, Widow, and maybe Doomfist (and Hanzo obviously) at GM. And obviously falls off the lower you go skill wise. Maybe her winrate is affected a bit by people switching onto her to hold points but she seems middle of the road at best. Certainly she's off meta although things may change when Brig's ult gets nerfed.
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May 17, 2018 01:48
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porfiria posted:According to Overbuff she's worse than Genji, Widow, and maybe Doomfist (and Hanzo obviously) at GM. And obviously falls off the lower you go skill wise. Maybe her winrate is affected a bit by people switching onto her to hold points but she seems middle of the road at best. Certainly she's off meta although things may change when Brig's ult gets nerfed. What are you comparing? She has the second highest pick rate of all the offensive heroes, second only to Hanzo at the moment. Her winrate is higher than Genji and Widow as well.
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May 17, 2018 02:07
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DeliciousCookie posted:What are you comparing? She has the second highest pick rate of all the offensive heroes, second only to Hanzo at the moment. Her winrate is higher than Genji and Widow as well. Overbuff GM stats over the past week.
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May 17, 2018 02:35
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Are tokens not dropping? Not getting anything. EDIT: Wrong thread 
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May 17, 2018 02:48
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Manatee Cannon posted:if you're not gonna follow up after you hack someone, why do it in the first place. anyone else is gonna be a harder target by default because they can use their abilities I hack Reinhardts and then gently caress off because any good Reinhardt is gonna be near his team who's going to shoot at you, and bad Reinhardts are already dead Bumper Stickup posted:My question is how do you fix her to not warp the meta while also keeping her as a counter to Tracer? Only thing I can think of is increased cooldown length. Minrad has still the best suggestion: swap the functionality of Shield Bash and Whip Shot. So now Shield Bash shoves enemies, Whip Shot stuns them.
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May 17, 2018 04:45
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Manatee Cannon posted:a series of coop missions that you select from a list is very different from borderlands and it didn't have pvp at all. it was just diablo with guns, and this... does not sound like diablo with guns really. if anything it sounds like the strike playlist from destiny I was going to mention Destiny before, since that was the first thing to come to mind for "FPS but PvE Co-Op." Too bad there's basically been no good news coming out about Destiny 2 since it came out. I still haven't even logged in to play the Warmind story missions yet.
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May 17, 2018 05:58
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SKULL.GIF posted:I hack Reinhardts and then gently caress off because any good Reinhardt is gonna be near his team who's going to shoot at you, and bad Reinhardts are already dead I've been suggesting this for a while, my team doesn't agree because they're saying "yeah but its easy to hit at long range". I don't really agree, its kinda like a hog hook, if people start looking for it, it becomes much harder to land. Also it stops the stun from going through shields, which means rein gets to have a little more fun again.
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May 17, 2018 10:21
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I think it's a really bad idea that makes the hero stronger at all but the lowest levels of play. She does not need to be a lethal threat at medium range, that change would make a mockery of the 'just stay away from her' tactic.
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May 17, 2018 12:29
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Well, after avoiding comp since the early seasons, I got sufficiently miserable in quick play due to maybe one match out of five being worth the time spent to play it. I had an alternate account already, so I did my placements over the past few days. The first few were quite decent matches - in one of them we had someone attempting to throw by sitting at spawn, but won anyway, and I was thinking yeah, this might be the way to play, people might be right. Went 2-2 in the first 4 games, which was about as I expected. The next three matches were all wins. One of which was legit, one of which was because the enemy team had a throwing duo, and one where the enemy team appeared to be trying but were legitimately so bad that they were unable to move the cart on their round, and unable to pause it on ours. Which was rather unsatisfying. I did the last three matches tonight. All three games were throw games. One in my favour, in which I got to do nothing in our defense round, because I was guarding from high ground like a good Soldier, while my team were camping the choke and killing whichever non-throwing enemies made desultory pushes. I got 3 kills total in the 2nd half, on a Sombra and a Lucio who tried to heroically solo the team from the rear. Two against, one of which had a throwing 2-man and one of which had a throwing 3-man. I can't call them stomps because there would be sticky residue after a stomp, while my team was more of a pink mist. This has confirmed for me that this game has serious, major issues. How the hell could it get a decent calibration on a fresh account in the face of this kind of experience? How is it OK that literally half if not more of the matches presented IN THE COMPETITIVE MODE are illegitimate? And worse, there is no way to resolve these fairly - a loss is a loss is a loss. The "It averages out over time" argument may be true, but to correct for this kind of noise you're talking about a very serious investment of time, and given my experience so far fully half of this time will be wasted time. I can't do that! I don't want to do that! Quick Play has degraded to being nothing but a gently caress-around mode where you can't get a seriously played match to save your drat life. Competitive is even worse, because there are stakes, which means that people who are salty, immature or broken in the brain can really take joy in messing it up - and they do! Half the goddamn time! Y'know that War Games quote? Man, I think it applies here. 100%. E: placed 2580, although that isn't relevant to the above. SadisTech fucked around with this message at 13:55 on May 17, 2018 |
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May 17, 2018 13:42
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SadisTech posted:Well, after avoiding comp since the early seasons, I got sufficiently miserable in quick play due to maybe one match out of five being worth the time spent to play it. I had an alternate account already, so I did my placements over the past few days. Post this on reddit. I know lot's of people complain there but this post is pretty detailed and I think represents how a lot of players feel in a way that most don't articulate. The worst that can happen is nothing, and the best is that Blizzard sees it.
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May 17, 2018 17:43
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ToastyPotato posted:Post this on reddit. I know lot's of people complain there but this post is pretty detailed and I think represents how a lot of players feel in a way that most don't articulate. The worst that can happen is nothing, and the best is that Blizzard sees it. If Blizzard actually punished throwers there might be improvement.
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May 17, 2018 17:54
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if you can figure out how to motivate people to always do their best in no stakes video games you'd have much better things to spend your time on than improving a video game if you can't or don't want to join a 6 stack via the various group finders, that isn't on blizzard
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May 17, 2018 18:12
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Minrad posted:if you can figure out how to motivate people to always do their best in no stakes video games you'd have much better things to spend your time on than improving a video game And being an old with a career and family, 6-stacking is pretty much out since my schedule is unreliable at best and it's rare that I'm able to play for more than an hour at a time. Ersatz fucked around with this message at 18:21 on May 17, 2018 |
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May 17, 2018 18:19
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that's just not a reasonable expectation if you want robot teammates, custom games with 11 ai teammates is there for you. if you want all of your team on the same page, making friends or joining a discord and asking if there's a stack with room are options. there is no perfect matchmaker psychologist that scans brain waves to evaluate with people are in the optimal mental state to play one video game with you at your whim, and there literally never will be.
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May 17, 2018 18:24
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Minrad posted:that's just not a reasonable expectation
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May 17, 2018 18:26
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yet somehow, you can't? custom games exist discord servers to make stacks exist but still you bash your head into quick play and go "why does my head hurt"
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May 17, 2018 18:26
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Minrad posted:yet somehow, you can't? It's kind of bizzarre that you're so invested in defending the lovely matchmaker and lack of consequences for easily-detectable patterns of griefing. You're also seriously overestimating the complexity of solving the latter issue. Ersatz fucked around with this message at 18:31 on May 17, 2018 |
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May 17, 2018 18:28
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there's no difference between solo queue competitive at literally any rating and quick play you don't want to make the effort to improve your own play experience but expect 11 randos and an automated matchmaking system with the weakest of variables to consider to do it for you. if you don't have the onus to fix things yourself when options are there and easily available, why are you expecting everything else to do it instead.
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May 17, 2018 18:29
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Minrad posted:there's no difference between solo queue competitive at literally any rating and quick play
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May 17, 2018 18:29
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I don't solo queue so no, I don't experience this game where "half of my games are boring stomps"
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May 17, 2018 18:33
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its terrible that matchmaker cannot predetermine if someone is going to have a bad game or is on the verge of tilting or whatever you want it to precog
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May 17, 2018 18:35
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Minrad posted:I don't solo queue hey everyone check out this dude's opinions
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Snazzy Frocks posted:its terrible that matchmaker cannot predetermine if someone is going to have a bad game or is on the verge of tilting or whatever you want it to precog
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May 17, 2018 18:38
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I've never seen the "thanks for reporting" screen for gameplay sabotage. Or abusive voice chat for that matter, only for abusive text chat.
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May 17, 2018 18:43
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My games are unfun, total blowouts either for a win or a loss. It's been this way for six+ months and it's only been intensifying, leading me to play more infrequently. I'm not as sharp as I used to be so my rank is slowly falling and I'm playing with more and more dumb heads. It's not a fun system. I uninstalled the game yesterday and hopefully I don't reinstall it. I never turn the game off feeling like it was a good/fun use of my time, again regardless of winning or losing. I don't understand how anyone can defend the matchmaking.
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May 17, 2018 18:43
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the problem of throwers isn't unique but I think it's compounded by the fact that the game is a moba, on top of being a team-based fps. so on top of real, actual throwers, you have people who have disagreements about the win condition and what different classes/characters should be doing because there are so many variables and so much to keep track of. so you get situations where e.g. a rein on attack gets tilted when mccree doesn't use the shield - but it may or may not be prudent to do so. so he stops using his shield - then the mercy can't heal him safely, so the rein gets no healing, tilts, and throw switches to torb, and the rest of the team falls apart. it's a delicate house of cards. the game probably needs a server or clan system so players can *actually* craft their experience but they want to maintain absolute control over their product so  I also think the popular "role queue" suggestion is a terrible idea
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May 17, 2018 18:52
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also, please move further discussion of how much overwatch sucks to the whining thread, tia
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May 17, 2018 18:56
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It's an absolutely fantastic year to get in to/play fighting games, the most holy of competitive bideo shames 
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May 17, 2018 18:56
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Minrad posted:I don't solo queue 
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teh_Broseph posted:It's an absolutely fantastic year to get in to/play fighting games, the most holy of competitive bideo shames  Please play fighting games
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May 17, 2018 20:59
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But I am bad at them and my slurred F,D,DF uppercut motion is rejected by my fightstick that insists on a proper Z.
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Get in Blazblue Cross Tag with us other day 1 bads, it comes out in 2 weeks for $50 ($40 Amazon PS4 pre-order) and I'm p sure the most complicated input in it is D,F + 2 buttons for a super. Dragonballs Figherzzz is out too and is cool and has Goku and real simple inputs. Both games do automagic combos when you mash the attack buttons. Overwatch for Mystery Heroes, emotes, and voice line spamming, fighting games for comp mode (or also mashing buttons) 
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