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rudatron posted:maybe. i see where you're coming from. but the reality is that there's a lot of ugliness out there, and being a subject of oppression is not enobling, but degrading. Oh hey, in the abstract I agree with you, but in the specific case, I feel like we could've built a bridge with a bit more planning that would've been less controversial. EDIT: More planning meaning not this specific NPC member just kinda going off and saying "HAY I AM THE DSA! WE ARE DOING THIS NOW" without much consultation with the local folks, or anybody, really.
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I'm glad the NPC gave us a full day to celebrate a solid set of wins before doing something embarrassing again.
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Goon Danton posted:I'm glad the NPC gave us a full day to celebrate a solid set of wins before doing something embarrassing again.
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RL, a grandstanding narcissistic stunt? Well, I never.
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Goon Danton posted:I'm glad the NPC gave us a full day to celebrate a solid set of wins before doing something embarrassing again.
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# ? May 17, 2018 15:46 |
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i dont really like rl stephens tbh. i cant remember why any more but he said something that pissed me off ob a podcast. also this particular preacher probably is, in fact, not worth reaching out to. but i felt it was necessary to point out that it could be, sometimes, maybe
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Larry Parrish posted:also this particular preacher probably is, in fact, not worth reaching out to. but i felt it was necessary to point out that it could be, sometimes, maybe This is why I don't like what he's doing. His point is correct, but his way of making it undermines it.
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There's a big difference in reaching out to working-class people with problematic views and reaching out to a pastor who used his status and power for bigotry. Every single one of us has lovely views on something, and purity tests are bad, but this is clearly a gently caress-up.
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Goon Danton posted:I'm glad the NPC gave us a full day to celebrate a solid set of wins before doing something embarrassing again.
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Nikita Khrushchev posted:RL, a grandstanding narcissistic stunt? Well, I never. I like a lot of his writing and his criticism of Coates, but he is extremely prone to grandstanding poo poo, you’re right
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Dmitri-9 posted:Maoism in the first world is stupid. I'm in favour of it, but as is common in leftist discourse, a diversity of tactics get conflated with one idea. If antifa is about making the cost of open white supremacism untenably high, arming yourself dissuades people from thinking they can isolate and attack you without risk. Some people take it to mean "Let's form a leftist militia and go looking for fights with right-wing militias." That ain't gonna work out. I'm in favour of communities arming themselves against white supremacy, including against the police, but it's not a first step, and not something to be fetishized the way the RGA are doing.
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Halloween Jack posted:Just curious, what do people ITT think of the general principle of arming the Left? I understand the argument for it but I have yet to meet a single person in DSA that I would trust with a loaded firearm
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Halloween Jack posted:Just curious, what do people ITT think of the general principle of arming the Left? i literally think we should form workers militias like the pre-October Revolution soviets
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I understand the argument for it but I have yet to meet a single person in DSA that I would trust with a loaded firearm
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# ? May 17, 2018 16:27 |
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And tbh your incredibly retarded if you want to restrict firearms access but also think the police are brutal and violent. The whole point of the 2nd Amendment is protection from state violence
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Gah
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Larry Parrish posted:And tbh your incredibly retarded if you want to restrict firearms access but also think the police and brutal and violent. The whole point of the 2nd Amendment is protection from state violence agreed but also Uncle Boogeyman posted:I understand the argument for it but I have yet to meet a single person in DSA that I would trust with a loaded firearm
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Halloween Jack posted:Just curious, what do people ITT think of the general principle of arming the Left? I am for it, at least as one small part of a greater program of skill development including first aid, gardening, and general like.... food autonomy skills (fishing and hunting) etc. We shouldn't cede those skills to fascists or the reactionary middle class, imo urban leftists in general should learn more about outdoor activities for their own / community's benefit (it's surprising how often random fishermen just give away nice fish to random people while I'm out, some of those fish are a substantially large free meal), as well as a way to connect with the rural working class. The worst way to go about it would be to fetishize guns as like a magic tool that wards away fascism tho. Doing that is a quick ticket to niche subculture development and not a real movement. I recently taught some new leftist shooters how to shoot some guns and it was both a cool experience as well as a harrowing one (muzzling me, forgetting how to load the gun, bad stance, etc). All will be fixed in time though
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a fundamentally good idea executed in the worst loving possible way with absolutely zero forethought is basically RL's modus operandi
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guns are disgustingly easy to use, but much like other dangerous tools, its amazing what people who have never injured themselves in an accident will try. also ive never really trusted more than a few people around guns anyway. nobody ever takes those saftey courses or takes them seriously if they do
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remove all weapons bans, but you cant purchase guns that aren't like, 10/22s if you demonstrate how to clear, clean, and maintain them without pointing the barrel at someone's foot
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deep web creep posted:a fundamentally good idea executed in the worst loving possible way with absolutely zero forethought is basically
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Good news, even giving a cop a dirty look can land you in jail for 10 years soon. https://twitter.com/JonathanCohn/status/996890864738807814
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Bullfrog posted:I am for it, at least as one small part of a greater program of skill development including first aid, gardening, and general like.... food autonomy skills (fishing and hunting) etc. We shouldn't cede those skills to fascists or the reactionary middle class, imo urban leftists in general should learn more about outdoor activities for their own / community's benefit (it's surprising how often random fishermen just give away nice fish to random people while I'm out, some of those fish are a substantially large free meal), as well as a way to connect with the rural working class. Basically, people who want to do this: BrutalistMcDonalds posted:They first popped up during the Black Lives Matter protests around the same time as Ferguson if I remember right. They really came out of nowhere and I don't think Austin activists really knew who any of them were. So imagine a police reform rally and then these Maoists with their faces covered roll in, dump a slaughtered pig's head on the ground (really) in front of the cops and then start chanting "OINK OINK BANG BANG. OINK OINK BANG BANG."
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https://twitter.com/RLisDead/status/997165653030207488 Mature, sober, professional leadership.
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GunnerJ posted:https://twitter.com/RLisDead/status/997165653030207488 It's true though -- that would stunt on us pretty hard
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Gandhi: Lol check this out yall im gonna try something hold my beer
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That post was just a joke on a serious man starting his serious mission by introing his insta vid. I know that Gandhi is actually bad. please relax folks.
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:Congrats to Austin DSA for somehow staying out of the Austin PSL / Redguard feud, which is genuinely hilarious https://twitter.com/RSF_Austin/status/994250738292477958 i have no idea about this feud but lmao at 'rapist,abductor...gentrifier'
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also he strangles
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the spacing between gentrifier and enemy of the people is really bugging me
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:the spacing between gentrifier and enemy of the people is really bugging me graphic design is a part of COINTELPRO
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Stairmaster posted:also he strangles she. regardless of the validity of the allegations don't stoop to their level of anti-LGBT propaganda.
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Syndlig posted:she. regardless of the validity of the allegations don't stoop to their level of anti-LGBT propaganda. Sure but based on the picture the RGA used (one of her pre-transition hmm wonder why they did that) you wouldn't know her gender basedon their post.
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# ? May 17, 2018 19:48 |
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Halloween Jack posted:My main concern is that if you purport to protect a community from violence, you have to be a part of that community, or at least engaged with it, and have the approval of the community. So I would prioritize teaching safety, first aid, conflict deescalation, and mutual aid organizing skills before outdoor skills. yeah, i fundamentally agree for sure. there's an issue where a lot of the "sexier" skills like holding the gun are emphasized over the much more important immediate skills like the ones you mentioned. it needs to be balanced, and comprise all of them while staying coherent.
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Larry Parrish posted:And tbh your incredibly retarded if you want to restrict firearms access but also think the police are brutal and violent. The whole point of the 2nd Amendment is protection from state violence why just look at all those police murders guns have prevented, such as
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yes that's right i'm taking the bait, it's time for a Gun Derail yeehaw *throws hat into air while shooting revolvers*
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Yinlock posted:why just look at all those police murders guns have prevented, such as yeah, but can you imagine
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Ace of Baes posted:yeah, but can you imagine i will admit that in an alternate universe where guns helped prevent gun violence, more guns would be a fantastic idea
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