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gegi
Aug 3, 2004
Butterfly Girl
but... I need physical carts so I don't run into region-lock problems, that's WHY I BOUGHT A VITA...

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Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

I thought Vita meant life... :smith:

Not Operator
Jan 1, 2009

Not A doctor, THE Doctor!

Raxivace posted:

I thought Vita meant life... :smith:

It does, just in a dead-as-gently caress language.

MegaZeroX
Dec 11, 2013

"I'm Jack Frost, ho! Nice to meet ya, hee ho!"



Not Operator posted:

It does, just in a dead-as-gently caress language.

I'm totally stealing this joke!

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

https://store.steampowered.com/app/804700/The_House_in_Fata_Morgana_A_Requiem_for_Innocence/

It's out

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world


Jacopo did nothing wrong.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Incorrect

TalkLittle
Jun 23, 2004


Also they put the first Fata Morgana on sale for 50% off this week https://store.steampowered.com/app/303310/The_House_in_Fata_Morgana/ -- I haven't played yet but will be picking up thanks to the praise it gets in this thread.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
Jacopo is a monster but I do need a dose of Maria.

Catalina
May 20, 2008




Help, I don't understand what my demon butler is saying, I think he's trying to murder someone-



-Oh. :3:

Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

I was already interested in the follow up to Fata Morgana, but from reading some reviews I didn't know there were additional sub stories in it including ones with The Main Man Michel, so now I NEED to get it.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

if i were to play DR3, a) would this be misguided, b) do i need to have engaged with anything but the first two games

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

companion post: are there any untranslated visual novels that are worthwhile

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

a) sure it's good b) nah

numerrik
Jul 15, 2009

Falcon Punch!

Cake Attack posted:

if i were to play DR3, a) would this be misguided, b) do i need to have engaged with anything but the first two games

It’s extremely misguided. I liked it for most of it but goddamn does it go places.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

kirbysuperstar posted:

Vic Mignogna: Eyyy it's Yuka-taaaan

IIRC it's actually not even Yuka-tan originally; it was Yukaricchi.

(I think they were trying to do some pun with "Yucatan (peninsula)" or something and ended up using something that is also a casual honorific in the process)

Truga posted:

speaking of key, they have a new game coming in june and art actually looks... OK?

I'm sad that it doesn't look like it's going to be another crazy action-y thing like Rewrite. Rewrite was kind of a mess, but I still had a lot of fun reading it.

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

So yeah, there's a lot of fingers in that pie. The tonal differences in the three writers' routes are pretty apparent even to people who tend to gloss over such details. Many larger VNs are written by multiple people, but the seams show more in Rewrite than any other VN I can think of. It's like Key made absolutely no effort to keep their multiple writers to a single consistent style, and they didn't even try all that hard to keep their plot consistent. Rewrite is kind of a mess.

Haha, I made the post above mentioning it being a mess before seeing this post. I still recommend it just because it's still pretty ambitious and entertaining.

Snooze Cruise posted:

I like to pretend Umineko is really about Eva, Rosa, and Natsuhi.

e: someone make a detective game about cool adult women who are gay please this is all i want in life.

I think Umineko might be the only one with older adults as major characters. Other VNs might have adults, but usually only ones in their 20s/30s, while Umineko spends a bunch of time with 40-50-somethings.


Holy poo poo! I had just assumed this would never come out in English!

Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 02:38 on May 19, 2018

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

gegi posted:

Is 7'scarlet more or less worth trying to obtain than psychedelica of the black butterfly?
I worry about missing out on vita games but at the same time I never have time to PLAY them, they just pile up...

I would say it probably would be a good idea to take a break and clear up the backlog. I'm looking forward to 7'scarlet since I like the art and it got decent reviews. Otome VN do go on sale often and PSN will never disappear overnight.

Irukandji Syndrome
Dec 26, 2008
So has nobody yet discussed the recent kerfuffle on VNs and Steam?

The long and the short of it is that Steam recently sent out a mass notice to a bunch of VN devs saying "if you don't take the porn content out of your game now, it will be delisted in a month." This ranges from games where the sexual content is suggestive at worst and in no way exceeds the sexual content in AAA games like Mass Effect or Dragon Age (Roommates) to games we don't speak the name of here (Huniepop).

It's apparently been inconsistently applied as well - Ladykiller in a Bind, for instance, has gotten no takedown notices, but Kindred Spirits on the Roof is being threatened with one despite the fact that it ran its sexual content by Steam extensively before release and was told it was fine.

I'm concerned about how this may threaten releases with optional adult patches like Muv-Luv Alternative and affect whether or not Japanese developers bring their games to the US in the future, if it's uncertain whether or not they'll be able to market them on Steam, when we had just started to hit a period of them being released in unprecedented number. :sigh:

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/20...mangagamer/amp/
http://blog.mangagamer.org/2018/05/18/regarding-recent-inquires-into-steam-content-policy-notices/
http://hanakogames.tumblr.com/post/174024852882/earlier-this-year-without-warning-valve-suddenly

Meanwhile, Bloody Boobs (nsfw) is totally intact. It's fine if it's not in a visual novel I guess? :downs:

Irukandji Syndrome fucked around with this message at 18:09 on May 19, 2018

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
It's definitely a mess. I've always found the *wink wink nudge nudge* approach some devs take to just releasing "unofficial" porn patches to be kind of a silly/lame workaround but from the sounds of it this isn't really necessarily about that and the targeting in general is extremely inconsistent and in some cases seems to be showcasing a strong anti-LBGT bias more than anything else.

In somewhat better news:
https://twitter.com/MangaGamer/status/996964859244883968

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

I read about it and it's completely unfair to VN devs since they're getting shut down vs AAA games. I wonder if anything could be done by players?

Irukandji Syndrome
Dec 26, 2008
Yeah, it's happening even to games that don't have patch workarounds, e.g. Kindred Spirits, which was famous for having explicit content when it came out and went through great lengths to vet it with Steam beforehand.

There are rumblings that it's the work of some kind of right-wing anti-porn group pressuring Steam, but who knows how true that is when a lot of misinformation tends to circulate with things like this.

One can really only hope that they'll backpedal on this, because it definitely sets a troubling precedent, but a lot of the coverage is calling it stuff like the "anime tittie holocaust" so people aren't that likely to take it seriously. :suicide:

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world


Nate RFB posted:

It's definitely a mess. I've always found the *wink wink nudge nudge* approach some devs take to just releasing "unofficial" porn patches to be kind of a silly/lame workaround but from the sounds of it this isn't really necessarily about that and the targeting in general is extremely inconsistent and in some cases seems to be showcasing a strong anti-LBGT bias more than anything else.

In somewhat better news:
https://twitter.com/MangaGamer/status/996964859244883968

Getting close to the finish line. I'm glad, since I don't actually want to start reading Higurashi until it's all there.

numerrik
Jul 15, 2009

Falcon Punch!

voltcatfish posted:

Getting close to the finish line. I'm glad, since I don't actually want to start reading Higurashi until it's all there.

What’s the total number of chapters that there should be? This is an A arc, right? That puts us in the back half, correct?

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

numerrik posted:

What’s the total number of chapters that there should be? This is an A arc, right? That puts us in the back half, correct?
A as in Answer? If so then yeah, it's an Answer/Kai arc chapter though the second overall of that set as Meakashi/Ch. 5 was also one. The original story has eight total chapters so we'll be at 6 out of that 8, though presumably they might tackle some of the side story chapters that came out afterwards as well later on.

It's also probably the 2nd best overall Higurashi chapter (just behind Minagoroshi which is the next one) and I can't wait to reread it.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

lets hang out posted:

a) sure it's good b) nah

its also 80 friggen bucks on steam so no thanks

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

Nate RFB posted:

It's definitely a mess. I've always found the *wink wink nudge nudge* approach some devs take to just releasing "unofficial" porn patches to be kind of a silly/lame workaround but from the sounds of it this isn't really necessarily about that and the targeting in general is extremely inconsistent and in some cases seems to be showcasing a strong anti-LBGT bias more than anything else.

In somewhat better news:
https://twitter.com/MangaGamer/status/996964859244883968

The whole thing is because of some fundie christian group in the states, so that's not surprising.

Ryuga Death
May 14, 2008

There's gotta be one more bell to crack
Fun Shoe
Is the house of fata morgana a good read? I've read all the Danganronpas and am still going through Stein's Gate and the Nonary Games.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Ryuga Death posted:

Is the house of fata morgana a good read? I've read all the Danganronpas and am still going through Stein's Gate and the Nonary Games.
It's probably the best VN I've ever read. I'm reading the prequel/sequel/sidstory/whatever that just came out and it's also pretty good so far (though the opening scene is a bit :yikes:)

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

Ryuga Death posted:

Is the house of fata morgana a good read? I've read all the Danganronpas and am still going through Stein's Gate and the Nonary Games.
It's got a few rough spots but its pretty solid overall. Excellent OST as well.

Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

Ryuga Death posted:

Is the house of fata morgana a good read? I've read all the Danganronpas and am still going through Stein's Gate and the Nonary Games.

Fata Morgana is my favorite VN by a longshot. It's basically amazing barring maybe one misstep from what I remember.

Speaking of Fata Morgana, I played some of the follow up today. It's good for the most part, but I'm left with a feeling that I thought I would have when I first heard about this one: I feel like this section of the story was already well-trodden ground in the original Fata Morgana and I'm not sure if expanding it out into its own game is going to be worth it. I don't know how long it is, but I am guessing it's quite shorting than the original game which is good. The opening is uncomfortable, and I'm not sure that I'm going to like how the Jacopo/Morgana relationship is framed. I'm saving the sub episodes until after I beat the main one.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

Cuntellectual posted:

The whole thing is because of some fundie christian group in the states, so that's not surprising.
I just read up on some of this, and jesus its fuckin' Morality in Media.

What's next? Jack Thompson coming back onto the scene?

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

Cuntellectual posted:

The whole thing is because of some fundie christian group in the states, so that's not surprising.

Allegedly. They claimed responsibility but that doesn't mean anything.

gegi
Aug 3, 2004
Butterfly Girl

Alder posted:

I would say it probably would be a good idea to take a break and clear up the backlog. I'm looking forward to 7'scarlet since I like the art and it got decent reviews. Otome VN do go on sale often and PSN will never disappear overnight.

I can't use the PSN that's why I stockpile the physical games.

Well, I say can't, but that's a slight exaggeration. I travel between regions constantly. I don't really even know what region my account is, if I have an account, which I assume I do but I pay as little attention as possible to how all that works. I just want to play games. I do not want to get tied into any digital purchase that might be revoked for stupid reasons, or might lock my account in a way that stops it from playing half my games.

gegi
Aug 3, 2004
Butterfly Girl

Raxivace posted:

I just read up on some of this, and jesus its fuckin' Morality in Media.

What's next? Jack Thompson coming back onto the scene?

From what I've heard multiple different causes have been blamed, none with proof. At least one claimed responsibility but there was pretty good evidence that it was nothing to do with them.

https://twitter.com/metasynthie/status/997910081273507840


EDIT: And now they're all starting to receive emails telling them to disregard the earlier ban threat?

gegi fucked around with this message at 00:49 on May 20, 2018

NRVNQSR
Mar 1, 2009

gegi posted:

but... I need physical carts so I don't run into region-lock problems, that's WHY I BOUGHT A VITA...

Good news, they've since clarified that they're only ending production of physical carts for America and Europe; Japanese games will keep making cart versions for a while yet.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

gegi posted:

From what I've heard multiple different causes have been blamed, none with proof. At least one claimed responsibility but there was pretty good evidence that it was nothing to do with them.
Given that it's grossly out of character for Valve to give a poo poo about anything, I think it's very likely that they are (or were) under pressure from someone, but I think it's just as likely to be a government as anything else.

FractalSandwich fucked around with this message at 06:15 on May 20, 2018

MegaZeroX
Dec 11, 2013

"I'm Jack Frost, ho! Nice to meet ya, hee ho!"



Cuntellectual posted:

The whole thing is because of some fundie christian group in the states, so that's not surprising.

Really? Does anyone have anything with more information? I thought this was because of PayPal policies due to the rate that people attempt to return their porn ("I never bought this!").

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
The only people who know why it's truly happening are at Valve and they aren't saying poo poo.


lmao at ever thinking steam was a free market

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
I can't believe nobody noticed the rider in the GDPR that makes pornography illegal. Typical EU overreach.

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Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Ryuga Death posted:

Is the house of fata morgana a good read? I've read all the Danganronpas and am still going through Stein's Gate and the Nonary Games.

It's easily the second best VN IMO, after Umineko, which is still first by a long shot. It's a much "tighter" story than Umineko, but its "core" isn't quite as interesting (though it's still really more interesting than most/all other VNs; I only mean that in comparison with Umineko which is exceptional in that regard).

Since your post implies you haven't played Fata Morgana or Umineko, you should absolutely play both. Though make sure you get either the PS3 sprites or the original ones for Umineko, because the Steam version default sprites are loving awful (they give everyone big faces and give all the women huge boobs that they never had with either the original or PS3 sprites).

edit: A lot of people have trouble with the original Umineko sprites (the ones that look all amateur-ish) for understandable reasons, but even if you choose to not use them I would still recommend looking at the original ones just because they're surprisingly good at conveying some nuances that the other sprites aren't (stuff like facial expressions and what have you).

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