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Schwarzwald posted:The fellow who's having an overreaction to an art style in a children's cartoon does come off a little unhinged, but jumping at the opportunity to diagnose a dude for his opinion ain't making you look much better. i think you're conflating the opinion with the unhinged way in which the opinion is expressed like, i don't like the look of Thundercats Roar, but I'm not going on loving insane tweet-storms about how I had a screaming fit at the state of the animation industry. i'm just... quietly griping about it when it comes up and ignoring it otherwise.
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Bottleneck Gallery released these earlier today to their "Bottlebux Members" as an exclusive. Karl Fitzgerald's Metropolis poster:  I love love Fitgerald's style so it was an instant buy for me (this is the variant).
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May 22, 2018 21:59
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Thundercats looks like poo poo, but who actually cares? Did people actually watch it or He Man?
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RBA Starblade posted:Did people actually watch it or He Man? Of course?
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It turns out those incredibly popular and successful cartoons shows were, in fact, popular and successful. Both series ran for 130 episodes.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:i think you're conflating the opinion with the unhinged way in which the opinion is expressed I liked Polygon's writeup of the backlash against the new show because it points out that the entire complaint of "CalArts style" is effectively meaningless due to overuse while at the same time illustrating that a lot of the backlash is due to people being dissatisfied at the show's art style being uncreative and derivative rather than this gender identity culture war people on both sides are trying to spin it as.  
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May 23, 2018 00:27
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So what? The original Thundercats was created in the standard style of its day too. It looks just like GI Joe which looked just like He-Man which looked just like the goddamn Superfriends. People are so loving entitled.
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Erotic Wakes posted:I liked Polygon's writeup of the backlash against the new show because it points out that the entire complaint of "CalArts style" is effectively meaningless due to overuse while at the same time illustrating that a lot of the backlash is due to people being dissatisfied at the show's art style being uncreative and derivative rather than this gender identity culture war people on both sides are trying to spin it as. That's a stupid rear end complaint considering the original Thundercats, He-Man, etc all looked exactly the fuckin same, 3 frames of animation and all.
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May 23, 2018 00:33
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While people complaining about the art style being overused and people complaining about it being a comedy for kids could be two theoretically different categories, as far as I can tell the two are a 100% overlap venn diagram of people
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May 23, 2018 00:35
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Peanut President posted:That's a stupid rear end complaint considering the original Thundercats, He-Man, etc all looked exactly the fuckin same, 3 frames of animation and all. They looked so similar that the only way you could tell them apart was their intros, which were more often than not one-offs made by an entirely different studio.
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May 23, 2018 00:37
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feedmyleg posted:So what? The original Thundercats was created in the standard style of its day too. It looks just like GI Joe which looked just like He-Man which looked just like the goddamn Superfriends. Similarly, the 2011 thundercats looked pretty much identical to Avatar or Young Justice. Thundercats has always been intensely derivative and terrible.
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May 23, 2018 00:48
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I have no idea what thundercats or any of these other shows people are comparing about are, but... This is almost minions levels of uninspired. I'm sure context helps. But that's some ugly character design. But hey if it makes losers mad, I'm all for it. Lizard Combatant fucked around with this message at 01:01 on May 23, 2018 |
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May 23, 2018 00:58
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Who cares when at least two of those are genuinely well written kids cartoons. I'm pretty sure 90% of the cartoons I watched when I was young were way dumber than the shows kids have now. Also, 2011 Thundercats was surprisingly well written. The new Thundercats might suck, but if it makes kids happy that's fine with me
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feedmyleg posted:So what? The original Thundercats was created in the standard style of its day too. It looks just like GI Joe which looked just like He-Man which looked just like the goddamn Superfriends. The original Thundercats was a deeply medicore show in a sea of other mediocre toy commercials, even the people who worked on it couldn't pretend it was good. The last Thundercats reboot was also just a shallow imitation of what was previously popular and it was subsequently panned and forgotten due to its mediocrity. In a better world this too would be allowed to pass instead of becoming the a battleground in the Nerd Culture Wars just because some bad people dislike the show for the wrong reasons. Lizard Combatant posted:I have no idea what thundercats or any of these other shows people are comparing about are, but... Steven Universe, it's a good show. In fact all of those are good shows and they looked unique and great when they premiered around the same time as the last Thundercats reboot was cancelled.
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Lizard Combatant posted:I have no idea what thundercats or any of these other shows people are comparing about are, but... 
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I tried watching Steven Universe but it’s got nothin I dig in it. Animation looks smooth though. Gravity Falls is the best.
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Erotic Wakes posted:The original Thundercats was a deeply medicore show in a sea of other mediocre toy commercials, even the people who worked on it couldn't pretend it was good. The last Thundercats reboot was also just a shallow imitation of what was previously popular and it was subsequently panned and forgotten due to its mediocrity. In a better world this too would be allowed to pass instead of becoming the a battleground in the Nerd Culture Wars just because some bad people dislike the show for the wrong reasons. Yeah I realised as soon as I posted it that I should probably just look it up, but you caught my edit. Yeah the colours and many of the other character designs are quite nice, but it's odd to make your titular character so bland. (I'm sure they're all very well written, wouldn't know)
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May 23, 2018 01:15
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Nothing will be as bad as anime
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It feels like everyone was much more willing to poo poo on an arbitrary shift in tone and art style when it was this thing.
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May 23, 2018 01:19
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A lot of people were unhappy with the Legend of Galactic Hero redesigns too 
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Lizard Combatant posted:I have no idea what thundercats or any of these other shows people are comparing about are, but... I’m pretty sure that’s just a bullshit meme someone made to push the “cartoons are derivative!” message, given how off the characters look. It’s particularly absurd that it’s trying to argue Gumball (bottom right) is an uncreative show; it’s one of the most visually inventive cartoons ever made. 
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May 23, 2018 01:25
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But, strangely enough, people were generally OK with the Captain Tsubasa cartoon taking big liberties with the character designs from the comic 
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May 23, 2018 01:31
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I can make stupid charts too
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I would like to retract all opinions on cartoons new or old. e: for clarity it was the post two above that showed me the folly of my ways.
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Steve Yun posted:I can make stupid charts too Man. It's like that I idea I had but was too lazy to execute on just manifested itself in front of my eyes.
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May 23, 2018 01:50
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:They looked so similar that the only way you could tell them apart was their intros, which were more often than not one-offs made by an entirely different studio. As a kid I was an idiot because the intro to every show and episode promised amazing animation (and action) that never actually happened. Every time it was "But this episode it will be different...!" Well actually I haven't learned anything. I'm still watching Dragonball Super.
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Lobok posted:As a kid I was an idiot because the intro to every show and episode promised amazing animation (and action) that never actually happened. Every time it was "But this episode it will be different...!" I think the all time king of this is Silverhawks, which looks like an OVA in the intro and the cartoon itself its like Scooby-Doo poo poo.
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Erebus posted:It feels like everyone was much more willing to poo poo on an arbitrary shift in tone and art style when it was this thing. That’s because the intended audience rejected it. The people whining about Thundercats Roar are mostly adults complaining that it’s being marketed to an audience segment that isn’t them
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Steve Yun posted:That’s because the intended audience rejected it. The people whining about Thundercats Roar are mostly adults complaining that it’s being marketed to an audience segment that isn’t them The ultimate injustice.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I think the all time king of this is Silverhawks, which looks like an OVA in the intro and the cartoon itself its like Scooby-Doo poo poo. That first time you see a clip of anime from a Gundam/Macross/whatever and something fires off those dozen swirling missiles and you realize it's the actual show and not the intro that's a moment that sucks a lot of kids into anime. The anime tried living up to the promise of the intros, man.
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Steve Yun posted:I can make stupid charts too you forgot the butt-chins on the outlines
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Lobok posted:That first time you see a clip of anime from a Gundam/Macross/whatever and something fires off those dozen swirling missiles and you realize it's the actual show and not the intro that's a moment that sucks a lot of kids into anime. 
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An excuse to share useless anime trivia! Macross was a testing ground for cheap Korean animation labor, and because episodes rotated between teams (one of them I think was made up of students) some episodes looked great and some looked pretty janky. Budget savings they had on some episodes meant they could splurge on other episodes, raising the quality beyond what had been seen on TV before Because of what the animation industry learned from Macross, there was an explosion in the production quality of anime in the 80’s and 90’s as more in-betweening work went to Korea and quality control was tightened. Spaghetti missiles were the specialty of a particular Mr Itano who was called into several different shows because nobody could keep the flight paths of a dozen different missiles straight in their head like this guy. It was often nicknamed the Itano Circus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzXfVgYCxWI Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 06:38 on May 23, 2018 |
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May 23, 2018 06:27
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The Hokuto no Ken/Fist of the North Star OVA was basically any of those Toei animation intro quality spread throughout an entire movie. Kenshiro as a golem walking through a building is still something pretty amazing. There's also the entire holocaust segment where the Earth is depicted as giving birth to/conceiving Lynn.
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I feel like it's worth noting that even this is still better animated than the average he-man era cartoon.
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Steve Yun posted:Spaghetti missiles were the specialty of a particular Mr Itano who was called into several different shows because nobody could keep the flight paths of a dozen different missiles straight in their head like this guy. It was often nicknamed the Itano Circus This poo poo just blew my loving mind as a kid. Turning on the Saturday morning cartoons in the 80s consisted of watching generic Loony Tunes for half an hour, then lovely three frames a second Super Friends which was like watching a presentation done by someone with down syndrome using dollar store crayons. Then maybe something like GI Joe or Centurians would come on which were just loving insulting at every level.. Then Robotech would come on and there was just nothing like it, both in plot and in animation. Such a drat shame the industry went and dedicated itself to pursuing the pervert market and 30 minute toy commercials which made Super Friends look like quality animation.
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