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Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Skaw posted:

For me the biggest twist was that the faction Asahi was fake repping turned out to be real and Maxima is a bro.

It's nice to have one good guy Garlean after a patch following Yotsuyu's family of literal Saturday morning cartoon villains. I mean seriously, if they were any more unapologetically evil, her father would have eaten a baby whole onscreen.

Thundarr posted:

Unless you mean you think the mystery elf is actually Zenos.

It's pretty clear that he is from expressions, the theme music, piloting Magitek, and what he says at the end about the Hunt going on.

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MechaX
Nov 19, 2011

"Let's be positive! Let's start a fire!"

Skaw posted:

For me the biggest twist was that the faction Asahi was fake repping turned out to be real and Maxima is a bro.

I like to think Maxima was watching everything from the Tsuyu fight on just around the corner of the stairs with the most “Seriously what in the gently caress did I even get randomly assigned to” expression ever

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


I might go run the new trial again because it's real purty and I'd love it if someone could just explain the moon mechanic to me.

OgretailFood
Oct 9, 2012

Recommended by 10 out of 10 Aragami

jfc Aurum Vale is the hardest dungeon I've played so far. We wiped twice (and almost a third time) against the second boss but bless that tank for killing it while we were dead

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


aurum piss vale is one of the 1.0 remnants (others include toto-rak and cutter's cry)

coincounter's chief gimmick gets reused fairly often, though: one-handed swipe is conal, two-handed swing is a full circle

Rainuwastaken
Oct 30, 2012

Another blue ribbon for Hecarim.

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

Yiazmat's quote if you fail to stop his ultimate is spooky.

Also, the new trial is Minstrel's Ballad. :stonk:

What's the line?

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

How the heck did they get so good at animating cutscenes all of a sudden this is amazing

Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007

World War Mammories posted:

aurum piss vale is one of the 1.0 remnants (others include toto-rak and cutter's cry)

coincounter's chief gimmick gets reused fairly often, though: one-handed swipe is conal, two-handed swing is a full circle

Don't forget Glower is a linear AoE where he's facing and Eye of the Beholder is a cone in front of where he's facing, I'm guilty of mixing up the latter with a Chimera's Dragon's Voice and trying to get close only to walk into it.

HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer
It's nice that with the new BTN and MIN offhands, i don't need buff food anymore to pass the minimum 1350 perception for HQ on 3 star nodes.


It's not quite as nice that i still need to gather over 400 items from timed nodes (some of those on the same node and mutually exclusive) and spend like 2500 creation at minimum to craft the rest of the gatherers' and crafters' tools. Not to mention the ~5000 yellow crafter scrip materials i need.

I haven't even started counting the materials i'll need for the new crafter/gatherer armor. Just the tools so far. This is gonna take a while.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
Gotta say, a certain effect on you during the final duty in the patch's story made me laugh. Spoilered, of course.

OgretailFood
Oct 9, 2012

Recommended by 10 out of 10 Aragami

World War Mammories posted:

aurum piss vale is one of the 1.0 remnants (others include toto-rak and cutter's cry)

coincounter's chief gimmick gets reused fairly often, though: one-handed swipe is conal, two-handed swing is a full circle
No wonder I died thrice i confused those two, alongside the eye beam and the other eye beam

DizzyBum
Apr 16, 2007


homeless snail posted:

How the heck did they get so good at animating cutscenes all of a sudden this is amazing

Sweet, now I'm looking forward to getting to 4.3. My lazy rear end is still somewhere in the middle of 4.2.

HenryEx posted:

It's nice that with the new BTN and MIN offhands, i don't need buff food anymore to pass the minimum 1350 perception for HQ on 3 star nodes.


It's not quite as nice that i still need to gather over 400 items from timed nodes (some of those on the same node and mutually exclusive) and spend like 2500 creation at minimum to craft the rest of the gatherers' and crafters' tools. Not to mention the ~5000 yellow crafter scrip materials i need.

I haven't even started counting the materials i'll need for the new crafter/gatherer armor. Just the tools so far. This is gonna take a while.

I just capped the last of my DoH at the tail-end of 4.2 and I'd like to work on better gearsets for DoH/DoL. All I have right now are the i330 mainhands for DoH specialists, i300 mainhands for DoL, and the two i290 armor sets. Are there any gear progression guides out there, or should I wait a bit for the 4.3 dust to settle?

berenzen
Jan 23, 2012

Just came back to the game since 4.0 and it looks like I have to grind out some 350 gear now to do the current content.

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

Arist posted:

I might go run the new trial again because it's real purty and I'd love it if someone could just explain the moon mechanic to me.

You gain stacks standing on a side. Don't let them get to 5 or you'll be doomed. Get rid of stacks/doom by swapping sides.

Skaw
Aug 5, 2004

OgretailFood posted:

No wonder I died thrice i confused those two, alongside the eye beam and the other eye beam

Once you learn the Cyclops move set they literally can't hurt you. Coincounter especially has really anemic auto attacks, it's just his specials that bring the hurt and they're all super avoidable.

Nodosaur
Dec 23, 2014

I haven't been playing for a while, but can someone explain to me the deal about Gaius being alive?

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Nodosaur posted:

I haven't been playing for a while, but can someone explain to me the deal about Gaius being alive?

As a wise man in another fantasy series that turned into an MMO once asked in exasperation, doesn't anyone stay dead anymore?

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

After going through Ridorina, I think I can safely declare:

This will be the pub killer to end all pub killers.

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

Arist posted:

I might go run the new trial again because it's real purty and I'd love it if someone could just explain the moon mechanic to me.

Look at your debuffs, don't let them stack high by switching sides.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Rainuwastaken posted:

What's the line?

"Scream louder. I want to remember this."

Axle_Stukov
Feb 26, 2011

Stylin'

Ibblebibble posted:

After going through Ridorina, I think I can safely declare:

This will be the pub killer to end all pub killers.

This gets said every 24man, and a week later most of the pubs have picked up on it. I've already run it 4 times today getting the drop I wanted, each run was better then the last.

Hommando
Mar 2, 2012

Ibblebibble posted:

After going through Ridorina, I think I can safely declare:

This will be the pub killer to end all pub killers.

I wouldn't be surprised if mathbot gets nerfed. The punishment for failing that mechanic is pretty severe for a 24 man since a couple of bad party members can wipe your alliance.

Skaw
Aug 5, 2004

Arist posted:

I might go run the new trial again because it's real purty and I'd love it if someone could just explain the moon mechanic to me.

It's basically Angra Mainyu except the arena effect is persistent and the stacks build over time. Watch the icon above your head, it'll go through half a lunar cycle(New to Full or Full to New depending on which Influence you are in) before putting Doom on you. You can reset the cycle and clear Doom by just switching over to the opposite side. The circles you have to stand in are there to trip up people who are sitting in one side too long. When they appear, just go to the other side. You have plenty of time.

Mymla
Aug 12, 2010


See you in 4.4, dangling man.

MechaX
Nov 19, 2011

"Let's be positive! Let's start a fire!"
Just finished up the main story quests.

Like, Mystery Elf Man is so obviously Zenos from the way he was like "shall I use this chance to become a better person? gently caress that noise, the HUNT MUST CONTINUE" and Shadowhunter is most obviously Gaius not only from the slow pan on his old Legate Mask, or the fact that he fights exactly like a Legate, but also because he identifies Alphinaud as a Scion pretty much immediately.

But despite this, I am pretty hyped for where they can take the story next.

MechaX fucked around with this message at 00:31 on May 23, 2018

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Just finished the 4.3 MSQ. This is a significant step up from 4.1 and 4.2 and goes a long way towards moving Stormblood closer to the standard that Heavensward set.

Good stuff.

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


Just finished my first shot at Ridorania with one minute left on the clock. Considering this alliance had spent nearly an hour wiping to MathMan, I was kind of impressed they were able to down the last boss in two pulls (only wiped the first time due to the unexpected Hashmal mechanic).

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

I'm glad the last boss of the new dungeon is literally Goku

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

MechaX posted:

Just finished up the main story quests.

Like, Mystery Elf Man is so obviously Zenos from the way he was like "shall I use this chance to become a better person? gently caress that noise, the HUNT MUST CONTINUE" and Shadowhunter is most obviously Gaius not only from the slow pan on his old Legate Mask, or the fact that he fights exactly like a Legate, but also because he identifies Alphinaud as a Scion pretty much immediately.

But despite this, I am pretty hyped for where they can take the story next.

I am guessing that the elf rear end in a top hat is the previous body and somehow (Zenos was a Cyber-Echotype IIRC) Zenos managed to latch onto it when his own body got jacked.

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

https://twitter.com/saerki/status/999072496409341954

Sadly, I still need to farm MGP for the set.

Meeko
Sep 15, 2017

That's right! I'm the counting sheep, Meeko. And I'm a proper sheep youkai!

the only explanation for why the story is so much better that I could possibly conceive of is that lyse was one of the story writer's pets or something and everyone was forced to write around that because now that we've moved on the story has considerably improved.

or maybe it's just a coincidence.

Mister Olympus
Oct 31, 2011

Buzzard, Who Steals From Dead Bodies

nyttyn posted:

the only explanation for why the story is so much better that I could possibly conceive of is that lyse was one of the story writer's pets or something and everyone was forced to write around that because now that we've moved on the story has considerably improved.

or maybe it's just a coincidence.

It's a coincidence. We're being set up for something more important there. People hated the Hien/Gosetsu/Tsuyu situation just as much before the whole story was told.

I mentioned this in the general FF thread but don't memory hole past reactions to things so those of us who are constantly rolling our eyes at people comparing a finished story to an unfinished one. Early HW patch content was pretty dire, with how awkwardly they were filling in holes with the Warriors of Darkness and what happened to Urianger and Minfilia all of a sudden--but it all worked out well.

Mister Olympus fucked around with this message at 07:19 on May 23, 2018

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

Anyone get the BRD/MCH chest out of Swallow's Compass yet? I'm curious how it dyes

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007



Whoops

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

nyttyn posted:

the only explanation for why the story is so much better that I could possibly conceive of is that lyse was one of the story writer's pets or something and everyone was forced to write around that because now that we've moved on the story has considerably improved.

or maybe it's just a coincidence.
As said above, the other explanation is that this is the payoff for all the build up we've gotten of the Gosetsu/Tsuyu stuff. Things are finally getting resolved and that's where everything comes together.

And that's satisfying when it's done well.


Even the items are saying healers should be doing damage now.

EponymousMrYar fucked around with this message at 03:31 on May 23, 2018

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
The add phase in the trial is probably one of the most creative things I've seen in-game.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!


This is racism.

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

Countblanc posted:



This is racism.

Lalafell's aren't a race they're a disease

Hommando
Mar 2, 2012

Countblanc posted:



This is racism.

Anyone know what she says if you're a Roe or Elezen?

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Chuch
Jun 28, 2003

A very good doggo

Hommando posted:

Anyone know what she says if you're a Roe or Elezen?

I have a max-height Elezen and she said the same thing.

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