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Blaze Dragon posted:The Pokemon Gang is maybe not a terrible idea but I can't stop looking at how its sprite is not actually lined up with the circle so it looks totally off. Also, do they still appear off Poke Balls or is the game intelligent enough to have them appear from off-screen like the Pokemon that follow you in HGSS? 
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OK, I actually kind of dig the scraggy gang. Intimidate spam actually changes things up a bit in a way that's well communicated to the player (unlike whatever the factory field effect is!) and the enemies are actually at appropriate levels. Also scraggy is The Best.
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May 24, 2018 19:01
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Oh god, one gym for each type. That's ridiculous. 'Bo' is ぼ though? That thing at the front is just...nothing. 
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May 24, 2018 19:02
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Yeah, Candy shop looks like the platonic idea of how a kid would design a candy store, especially if they were a 90s girl that bought all Lisa Frank school supplies and binged on Roald Dahl. While on the other hand the rest of the city looks uninspired.
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May 24, 2018 19:18
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limeicebreakers posted:'Bo' is ぼ though? That thing at the front is just...nothing. Yeah I have no idea what's going on there. If it is supposed to be ぼ then ぼ-ん could be "Born", although then it should have been written in Katakana since it's transliterating an English word. Maybe they got confused and were trying to write "Ban" (ば-ん) as in "Ban [Evil Company]"? Still doesn't explain the horizontal stroke through the first part of the character, though. Also that's not how you'd transliterate ban, even using Hiragana. This game can't even weeb right.
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May 24, 2018 19:23
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Sydin posted:Also that's not how you'd transliterate ban, even using Hiragana. It would, however, be how you'd transliterate "burn", other than using the wrong syllabary. Same sentiment with more violence.
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May 24, 2018 19:33
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wait whats quash and why is it so bad
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May 24, 2018 19:34
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Dragonatrix posted:wait whats quash and why is it so bad You force the pokemon you use it on to go last in the turn order. This is completely useless in single battles and still super niche in double battles. There is no reason to ever use it e: It also deals no damage and has no increased priority. If you want to use it properly you must be faster than the opponent you want to stall.
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May 24, 2018 19:35
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Ah, Pokemon Reborn. This Romhack holds a special place in my heart... not a good place mind, but a special one. It and Golden Sun are responsible for a certain policy of mine regarding video games: If I have to have a guide open at all times in order to enjoy it, I should play something else. Agreed on the candy store being nice and the reverse-bitter candy being a neat idea (I've even borrowed the latter idea myself). Like others have said, there actually are a number of good ideas here. It's just that the implementation was so near-universally awful that it's impossible to enjoy it. Onmi posted:Again, it's not a perfect community, but it's legitimately trying and a lot of that was spurned on by having the toppest of titles almost all ripped to shreds and each flaw exposed and pointed out. More importantly, it revealed the immaturity of the story telling on a wider scale. And for a lot of hackers, that was embarrassing. Namely because they didn't really have an excuse.
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May 24, 2018 19:39
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rannum posted:You force the pokemon you use it on to go last in the turn order.
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May 24, 2018 19:43
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Capfalcon posted:I was actually thinking the TV was actually amusing when it was just "Famous people blowing off the reporter" and then it had to go suuuuuper creepy. Did you really think a game like this was going to have a talking Gardevoir and NOT have it be weird and creepy?
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May 24, 2018 19:43
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AweStriker posted:It would, however, be how you'd transliterate "burn", other than using the wrong syllabary. Same sentiment with more violence. Good point. It would also fit in more with the... er, let's call it "tone" of the game. Still doesn't explain why 5/6 characters are perfectly fine but the first is mangled to all hell though.
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May 24, 2018 19:44
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Sigh, I guessed so. I just wanted to give Reborn the benefit of the doubt, but I guess it did not deserve it.
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May 24, 2018 19:49
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PMush Perfect posted:Does anything with Prankster get Quash? That would at least give it a +1 Priority and make it theoretically usable in double battles. Murkrow (not Honchkrow, it gets Moxie) and Sableye (not Mega Sableye), both as Hidden Abilities. So, I mean. If you want to bring a BST 405/380 pokemon (respectively) that can get one-shot by a Clefairy into a double battle, by all means.
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May 24, 2018 20:01
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I'm assuming sliding puzzle was in there because Essentials presumably gives you the tools to recreate the HGSS sliding puzzles, and of course the Reborn 'devs' have to use every random piece of bullshit just to show they can. To be fair it would be neat in a vaccuum, but in the context of them making everything have a bunch of extra hoops just because... I'm also assuming that's where the stupid jumping puzzles came from, since those were a thing in HGSS too.
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May 24, 2018 20:07
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KataraniSword posted:Murkrow (not Honchkrow, it gets Moxie) and Sableye (not Mega Sableye), both as Hidden Abilities.
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May 24, 2018 20:11
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PMush Perfect posted:Does anything with Prankster get Quash? That would at least give it a +1 Priority and make it theoretically usable in double battles. If you have prankster and Quash is your first move of choice, either you're drinking bleach or you're developing a RomHack of a beloved video game series aimed towards a more Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:
Ok. I'll give some props where due; I like this. It reminds me of how the anime envisioned pokemon eggs.
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May 24, 2018 21:57
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Actually, now that I think about it... back when I played this game, the egg in that spot could only be either Drowzee or Ducklett. I'm pretty sure Bronzor is better than either of those, so is this a rare case of the devs giving better tools to the players instead of worse ones? Shocking if true. Of course, it's more likely that I'm overvaluing Bronzong or undervaluing Hypno/Swanna here. I'm sure someone will tell me if that's the case.
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Arkanian posted:Actually, now that I think about it... back when I played this game, the egg in that spot could only be either Drowzee or Ducklett. I'm pretty sure Bronzor is better than either of those, so is this a rare case of the devs giving better tools to the players instead of worse ones? Shocking if true. Bronzor is more useful in so far as it can take a hit thanks to interesting typing, fantastic defenses, and good abilities (heatproof means it has no fire weakness, levitate makes it ground immune) but it's not necessarily better, per say. It's weaker than either Ducklett or Drowzee, which might matter more if it replaced one of them. Is it possible it just replaced Drowzee, looking at him again? Our level cap is 25, Drowzee evolves at 26 while the other 2 evolve at level 33 (Bronzor) & 35 (Ducklett). Having a Hypno, then using the level down candies, might have been too useful so they swapped in a psychic type who evolves later Or just a random whim of the designers. With Reborn, anything is possible!
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May 24, 2018 23:50
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rannum posted:Is it possible it just replaced Drowzee, looking at him again? Our level cap is 25, Drowzee evolves at 26 while the other 2 evolve at level 33 (Bronzor) & 35 (Ducklett). Having a Hypno, then using the level down candies, might have been too useful so they swapped in a psychic type who evolves later
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May 24, 2018 23:59
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It would be really fitting in a way for this hack's "designers" to make going over the level cap and then leveling down a requirement only to later realise that doing so incentivises doing that for other things later. Can't have that, so we gotta hastily remove the possibility lest players get ideas to use the methods and tactics the game teaches them to use.
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May 25, 2018 00:18
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Seeing that every Egg had its own sprite made me suspect that it was too much effort for someone on the Reborn team to do this. Well, someone else made them over a year ago and I guess they got permission. Still a cool little thing, though it's literally the second image when you google it, so whoever was in charge of it didn't search for long.
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May 25, 2018 00:37
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Crosspeice posted:Seeing that every Egg had its own sprite made me suspect that it was too much effort for someone on the Reborn team to do this. Well, someone else made them over a year ago and I guess they got permission. Still a cool little thing, though it's literally the second image when you google it, so whoever was in charge of it didn't search for long. if i was in the same boat i'd have done the same thing after seeing how nice and thorough these are. They even did legendary pokemon!
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May 25, 2018 00:50
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And eggs for different forms, even ones that don't make any sense, like black and white Kyurem, all of Rotom's forms, and Burmy.
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May 25, 2018 01:03
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So with the lack of ever wanting to give the player an easy time, is Starmie locked behind several doors, game hacking, a pound of flesh, a week of manual labor at the creator's home, and a pact with a demon you (not the player character) have to enter into?
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May 25, 2018 01:15
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The TV interview would've just been harmlessly silly if it didn't go for a creepy bestiality joke right off the bat. It's like they thought "these TV interview segments are too childish and safe, we need raunchy sex humor because that's mature!"
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:So with the lack of ever wanting to give the player an easy time, is Starmie locked behind several doors, game hacking, a pound of flesh, a week of manual labor at the creator's home, and a pact with a demon you (not the player character) have to enter into? No it's just late as poo poo. The complete absence of Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, and Energy Ball is a big knock against it. Arkanian posted:Actually, now that I think about it... back when I played this game, the egg in that spot could only be either Drowzee or Ducklett. It was changed to also be Bronzor, at random. I forgot to mention that. I'll have to amend the update.
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May 25, 2018 02:12
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Lot of the fanbase is so loving weird about Gardevoir, I never understood why that one gets so sexualized.
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May 25, 2018 02:14
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Robindaybird posted:Lot of the fanbase is so loving weird about Gardevoir, I never understood why that one gets so sexualized. Because it's literally a woman in a dress for it's sprite
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May 25, 2018 02:28
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Gardevoir is a weird jellyfish thing with monstrous hands but it also looks kinda like a pretty lady so
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Robindaybird posted:Lot of the fanbase is so loving weird about Gardevoir, I never understood why that one gets so sexualized.
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May 25, 2018 02:44
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Commander Keene posted:It's probably because Gardevoir is one of the most humanlike Pokemon. Funny enough it's not in the humanlike egg group. It's in amorphous with grimer and koffing. It has more in common with a candle than a human!
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May 25, 2018 03:25
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FoolyCharged posted:Because it's literally a woman in a dress for it's sprite Also a bob cut.
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May 25, 2018 03:39
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The more I notice the weird inhuman elements of Gardevoir the more I like it. It's like an uncanny valley of an elegant woman in a ballroom dress and that rules
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Leal posted:Also a bob cut. it will also die &/or summon a blackhole for you quote:Gardevoir has the psychokinetic power to distort the dimensions and create a small black hole. This Pokémon will try to protect its Trainer even at the risk of its own life.
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May 25, 2018 03:44
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I'm not sure why anyone even considers the idea that a Pokemon might be in the box, even the player character. I was wondering if the box was a Pokemon.
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May 25, 2018 03:50
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Bogleech once went over every single pokemon in existence and their design. http://www.bogleech.com/pokemon/p280ralts.html
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May 25, 2018 03:56
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Onmi posted:Bogleech once went over every single pokemon in existence and their design. thank you for reminding me of Pokken's horrifying textures from vaguely fleshy to weirdly furry to overly slimy, all textures in pokken are firmly in "off putting" 
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May 25, 2018 04:04
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Sylveon's ribbons being made of flesh is the best part of its design
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:
I think the kid is asking you if you're going to leave. When you say no, he's like "welp I gotta smack a bitch then". Also thank gently caress you're playing through this so I don't have to. You deserve a medal.
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