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chutche2 posted:Yes Okay, corollary: Given the above, can I then spend a further 1CP for the Armoury of Baal stratagem, for another Relic off the BA list? I'd only have to pay 3CP if I wanted to get two extra picks of a single list?
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zeal posted:Okay, corollary: Also yes.
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zeal posted:Okay, corollary: If you had 3 detachments of 3 different factions each you could spend 1 CP on each detachment and still get the free relic for whichever one is your warlord's detachment.
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Artum posted:Also yes. Based on all this, can I have some ice cream?
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So, given all the above it's perfectly legal for the list I described to take the Angel's Wing on a Slamguinius captain, Kurov's Aquila on a Guard character, and the Veritas Vitae on another BA character, for net 2 CP I want to do that this weekend, 2k vs Tau, and I wanted to make absolutely sure it was on the level because it sounds hilarious
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Foul Ole Ron posted:Based on all this, can I have some ice cream? Only if you bring enough for the thread.
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My BA/IG list has exactly that
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Artum posted:Only if you bring enough for the thread. That's a lot of CP.
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Corrode posted:My BA/IG list has exactly that might also shell out for the Standard of Sacrifice on a Terminator Ancient
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zeal posted:So, given all the above it's perfectly legal for the list I described to take the Angel's Wing on a Slamguinius captain, Kurov's Aquila on a Guard character, and the Veritas Vitae on another BA character, for net 2 CP Why on earth are you not making your warlord a Dark Angel with the Brilliant Strategist trait? Once you do that, statistically you're not actually spending CP when you use a 1 CP stratagem.
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Theres also the option of having your warlord be the guard officer with grand strategist and kurovs aquila, then paying 3 for the wing and the veritas so every time you spend a command point you actually get two rolls for command points, meaning you can actually net gain command points by spending them, and less than half the time do you actually spend a command point.
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Angel’s Wing is hilarious against Tau. “What do you mean I can’t overwatch?!”
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Maneck posted:Why on earth are you not making your warlord a Dark Angel with the Brilliant Strategist trait? Once you do that, statistically you're not actually spending CP when you use a 1 CP stratagem. because I play Loyalists e: Artum posted:Theres also the option of having your warlord be the guard officer with grand strategist and kurovs aquila, then paying 3 for the wing and the veritas so every time you spend a command point you actually get two rolls for command points, meaning you can actually net gain command points by spending them, and less than half the time do you actually spend a command point. oh man 1994 Toyota Celica fucked around with this message at 19:56 on May 24, 2018 |
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May 24, 2018 19:53
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Artum posted:Theres also the option of having your warlord be the guard officer with grand strategist and kurovs aquila, then paying 3 for the wing and the veritas so every time you spend a command point you actually get two rolls for command points, meaning you can actually net gain command points by spending them, and less than half the time do you actually spend a command point. It seems obvious one army should only have access to one set of stratagems/wargear or else things break. But here we are.
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Maneck posted:Why on earth are you not making your warlord a Dark Angel with the Brilliant Strategist trait? Once you do that, statistically you're not actually spending CP when you use a 1 CP stratagem. 4 damage thunder hammers wounding T8 on 3s and everything else on 2s are no joke
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Maneck posted:It seems obvious one army should only have access to one set of stratagems/wargear or else things break. But here we are. I'm in the odd position where I point these out to people even though I abhor that sort of min maxing and never do it myself.
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Artum posted:I'm in the odd position where I point these out to people even though I abhor that sort of min maxing and never do it myself. Presumably you want to play with people more than once.
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Finished these up a few weeks ago but never got around to photographing and posting these. Here's the command team for my Rainbow Warriors: Chapter Master Arcus Pluvius and two Lieutenants   
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Finished these up a few weeks ago but never got around to photographing and posting these. Here's the command team for my Rainbow Warriors: Chapter Master Arcus Pluvius and two Lieutenants This is loving awesome. I like the blending on the transition between the armor and the rainbow. If you give a watch master the warlord trait for +1 damage on a weapon, does it work on both the shooting and melee profile of the spear or do you have to pick? It's two different weapon entries on the datasheet.
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Thanks! Yeah, it applies to all profiles.
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chutche2 posted:If you give a watch master the warlord trait for +1 damage on a weapon, does it work on both the shooting and melee profile of the spear or do you have to pick? It's two different weapon entries on the datasheet. It's two profiles for one weapon. It's the same as a Primaris Gravis Captain's Boltstorm Gauntlet. One weapon, multiple profiles and all of them get the bonus.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Finished these up a few weeks ago but never got around to photographing and posting these. Here's the command team for my Rainbow Warriors: Chapter Master Arcus Pluvius and two Lieutenants I was not expecting the cape to be that fabulous as I scrolled down.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Finished these up a few weeks ago but never got around to photographing and posting these. Here's the command team for my Rainbow Warriors: Chapter Master Arcus Pluvius and two Lieutenants I love these guys so much.
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NovemberMike posted:It's two profiles for one weapon. It's the same as a Primaris Gravis Captain's Boltstorm Gauntlet. One weapon, multiple profiles and all of them get the bonus. That's pretty neat then. The other warlord traits seem more geared towards a warlord that's hanging back and supporting shooting and wouldn't do a lot for a watch master with a melee-oriented kill team. But +1 damage on both profiles sounds great.
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Cessna posted:Wow! Definitely. I'd never be able to blend that by hand.
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I have painted a small army of Raptors Primaris marines. Painted: 20 intercessors 10 Hellblasters 1 Librarian 1 apothecary 2 lieutenants 1 Gravis Captain 1 Chaplain 15 Reivers I am also completely burned out on the Raptor's green color scheme. I want to expand this force with a detachment of something that's not green, with a focus on anti tank. Any thoughts?
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Definitely. I'd never be able to blend that by hand. That's some beautiful work.
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I love listening to badcast while I paint Amazing bitching about Virginia weather though, I moved here from Savannah and Richmond is like a temperate paradise in comparison.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Finished these up a few weeks ago but never got around to photographing and posting these. Here's the command team for my Rainbow Warriors: Chapter Master Arcus Pluvius and two Lieutenants You gotta do a time lapse of one of those capes, dude. Friggin fantastic
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Maneck posted:It seems obvious one army should only have access to one set of stratagems/wargear or else things break. But here we are. I would loving love a beta rule where you can only use stratagems from the Detachment containing your warlord.
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Ayn Marx posted:I have painted a small army of Raptors Primaris marines. Maybe there will be something cool in the new Knights book in a few weeks?
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Maybe there will be something cool in the new Knights book in a few weeks? Yeah maybe grab an armiger. I wonder how big an armiger would be at AT scale? I bet they'd be adorable. With how fast they are it seems like they could be nice anklebiters like battlefleet gothic escort ships. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 20:53 on May 24, 2018 |
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Corrode what are you thinking about coven wise? I promised to come back on this and didn't get around to it until now. So yeah, the Hellions are great, and offer a ton offensively, but they crumple so quickly and it's a huge points investment to get them going to where they need to be. They could be more effective split into 2 10-man squads, but then you can't pile +1A on all of them so easily and you lose out on the efficiency of the stratagem. It's a tough call but I think they're too vulnerable to too broad of a variety of opponents to make the cut. I agree that the Reavers are great. I have enough to run a 3x3 with the Succubus for a cheap Red Grief detachment which causes real problems for gunline players. Against other stuff they're less useful, but they still float around grabbing objectives or screening (unless I'm a dumb poo poo and put them right at the front where my opponent's Hellhounds can kill them T1). Incidentally, the Succubus is loving amazing - she's so quick it's unbelievable. She doesn't necessarily do that much damage (although without the Hellions in the list she'll be guaranteed +1A, which helps a lot), but she gets around the board insanely fast and she can just sit and tie stuff up forever. She made some clutch No Escapes in my game 4, and then locked up Pask for basically the whole game in game 5. I didn't even bother giving her the +1 invuln warlord trait and she still wrecked face. My opinion of her for a 54pt character has gone way up. My thought if I went with the Coven stuff would be the Haemonculus bits to be Prophets of the Flesh in the main detachment, with the standard Black Heart group and the Red Grief supporting. This worked very successfully for Kane Foster at LGT, and it's something Naramyth's teammate has been trying too. Basic template is Rakarth, another Haemi, 3x Wracks, and then a pile of Grots and Talos. It offers a surprising amount of shooting (and, key, a lot of mortal wounds which DE otherwise lack). It's slow, but tough as hell. It's great in combat, which my list is not good at right now. It's a very different playstyle and poses questions to e.g. jetbike captains or Chaos/Daemon infantry spam that Venoms really don't. I don't think it's necessarily better than the Flayed Skull Venom spam, because that's obviously really good, but I think it poses different challenges to your opponent and they might not be answered quite so efficiently as Venoms can be. Plus I have this idea to convert up some sweet looking Grotesques from Talos bits and some fantasy Ogres, which is a big part of the attraction, even if it's monetarily challenging.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Finished these up a few weeks ago but never got around to photographing and posting these. Here's the command team for my Rainbow Warriors: Chapter Master Arcus Pluvius and two Lieutenants I love this project so much. These guys are great.
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  Techmarine just needs his servo harness finished. WIP of the 1k list mentioned earlier in the thread: 
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I've been sorting through my pile of shame to sell stuff at the Games Expo and I've found an almost complete 2nd edition 40k boxed set (all books and counters, just missing the space marines). Should I keep it and play some games? Or sell for Titanicus cash? I had a look through and the army sizes from the time give you armies possibly less than half the size of current armies. Tactical space marines are 30 points each.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N_odAms6rQ
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Yeah after TTT's latest tactica about how hard it was to win for Drukhari because of cumulative scoring, I started looking at the Coven for resiliency. And the shooting from Talos is actually pretty good. Haywire blasters seem great. I did the math and a Coven Brigade with Urien + the KoBH 3x Ravager = 1901 points. One problem with that is that to fill out the fast attack I took 3 units of scourge with haywire blasters. Scourge are actually pretty decent at killing according to beer's sheet but...they are probably going to die the turn after they arrive. They are efficient, but not so efficient that they earn their points back in one turn. A second problem was that the list can only afford 4 total talos across 3 squads. That's still legal with the new Ro3 right? Because they are units. And only 9 total grots. Overall not optimal to run a brigade of coven but it was fun to calculate out. Corrode posted:Plus I have this idea to convert up some sweet looking Grotesques from Talos bits and some fantasy Ogres, which is a big part of the attraction, even if it's monetarily challenging. Agreed 10,000%! Look like such a fun project. AoS Crypt Horrors or Skaven Stormfiends seem ripe for conversions into Grots. e: I hope there's some list out there where scourges are an optimal choice, because I'd love to model the rascals. JIZZ DENOUEMENT fucked around with this message at 23:09 on May 24, 2018 |
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