caberham posted:

I probably will write a more coherrent post in next week

caberham posted:

I probably will write a more coherrent post in next week

fish and chips and dip posted:

This is what I don't understand from a government perspective. Wouldn't you want to have your population actually learn something valuable, skills, or whatever to bring back home? Of course the students and their families are all about the face, but to actually be blacklisted by the government? Even for China, I just can't comprehend this.

kenner116 posted:

法輪大法好

Eox posted:

the epoch times is a falun gong show

Jack-Off Lantern posted:

Hey, I live in the same town as the chainsaw manufacturer Stihl and they had a huge issue with Chinese reverse engineering their chainsaws and then ordering necessary parts online.

So Stihl just opened a Qingdao Factory in 2006 so that they profit from cheap labour while getting their technology stolen

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China Considers Ending Birth Limits as Soon as This Year


China is planning to scrap all limits on the number of children a family can have, according to people familiar with the matter, in what would be a historic end to a policy that spurred countless human-rights abuses and left the world’s second-largest economy short of workers.

The State Council, China’s cabinet, has commissioned research on the repercussions of ending the country’s roughly four-decade-old policy and intends to enact the change nationwide, said the people, who asked not to be named while discussing government deliberations. The leadership wants to reduce the pace of aging in China’s population and remove a source of international criticism, one of the people said.

Proposals under discussion would replace the population-control policy with one called “independent fertility,” allowing people to decide how many children to have, the person said. The decision could be made as soon as the fourth quarter, the second person said, adding that the announcement might also be pushed into 2019.

"It’s late for China to remove birth limits even within this year but it’s better than never," said Chen Jian, a former division chief at the National Family Planning Commission, who’s now a vice president of the China Society of Economic Reform. "Scrapping birth limits will have little effect on the tendency of China’s declining births."

Baby-related stocks climbed in China Tuesday, with Ningbo David Medical Device Co., a maker of infant incubators and obstetric equipment, surging by as much as 10 percent. Childcare firms climbed with toy makers, while infant formula producers Beingmate Baby & Child Food Co. and Bright Dairy & Food Co. jumped at least 1.4 percent.

On Monday, Danone, which has doubled its share of China’s baby food market in the past five years, rose to a session high before paring gains, while U.K.-based Reckitt Benckiser Group Plc shares erased declines in London.

The policy change would close the book on one of the largest social experiments in human history, which left the world’s most-populous country with a rapidly aging population and 30 million more men than women. The policies have forced generations of Chinese parents to pay fines, submit to abortions or raise children in the shadows.

Two-Child Policy
The U.S. and other Western nations have criticized the coercive measures required to enforce the birth limits, including steep fines, sterilization and forced abortions. The 2015 shift toward a two-child policy was part of a gradual effort to loosen the birth limits over the years as China’s working-age population began to wane.

An initial feasibility study was submitted to Chinese Premier Li Keqiang in April, according to one of the people familiar with the discussions. That study found there would be “limited” benefits to lifting birth restrictions nationwide. Li requested more research on the social impact of scrapping the policy altogether, the person said.

Neither the State Council Information Office nor the National Health Commission immediately returned faxed requests for comment Monday.

"The policy shift will hardly boost the number of newborns in China," said Huang Wenzheng, a specially-invited senior researcher of Center for China and Globalization, a Beijing-based think tank. "China’s number of births will continue to drop dramatically, considering a sharp decrease in the number of fertile women and declining fertility willingness."

Still, the move underscores growing concern among Chinese policy makers that more dramatic action is needed three years after allowing all families to have two children instead of one. Births fell 3.5 percent to 17.2 million nationwide last year, according to the Bureau of National Statistics, erasing almost half of the increase in births caused by relaxing the policy.

China’s graying society will have broad consequences for the nation and the world, weighing on President Xi Jinping’s effort to develop the economy, driving up pension and healthcare costs, and sending foreign companies further afield for labor. The State Council last year projected that about a quarter of China’s population will be 60 or older by 2030, up from 13 percent in 2010.

“The low birth rate and low number of newborns from the previous two years after the two-child policy sent a strong message to the decision-makers that the young generation has a weak willingness to have more children,” Chen said. “China’s population issues will be a major hurdle for President Xi Jinping’s vision of building a modernized country by 2035.”

Why more children may be bad for Chinese growth: Bloomberg Economics’ take.

In March, China removed the term “family planning” from the name of the newly consolidated National Health Commission -- the first time since 1981 that no agency bears the name. Xi and Li also omitted any reference to the phrase from key policy reports in recent months.

Gender Gap
While China credits birth limits with helping to launch a decades-long economic boom under reformer Deng Xiaoping, they have also exacerbated demographic imbalances, with many parents choosing to abort female fetuses. China has 106 men for every 100 women, compared with 102 globally, according to the CIA World Factbook.

Such moves have done little to increase the fertility rate, with many parents concerned about the costs of raising additional children in a society accustomed to focusing family resources on one. Nonetheless, Chinese policy makers have resisted calls by economists and demographers to relinquish control amid concerns over the impact of a sudden increase in births or older parents angry about missing the chance to expand their families.

Even a short-lived baby boom could prove lucrative for businesses who cater to childrens’ needs in the world’s most populous county. Chinese consumers bought $19.4 billion of infant products between September 2016 and August 2017, an 11 percent increase, according to an annual report released by Nielsen Holdings Plc in November.

Patrocclesiastes posted:

Sorry i didnt read the 500 posts I missed, i want to pose a quiz to you.

Please enter your answer for if you think a global chinese state owned company has done anything, or even cares, about GDPR, go ahead, make a wild guess

hailthefish posted:

I'm sure some will get around to banning all of Europe.

Patrocclesiastes posted:

Our local office is doing GDPR because we want to cover our rear end, germany local office too, EU hq company isnt, not to speak of the group itself, and the penalty applies for the global whole group 4% of worldwide turnaround

value-brand cereal posted:

Why do I get a vague feeling it's going to be an arms race to pump out as many sons as possible? More sons means healthy sperm and maximum face gain. I didn't see anything about sex education in that article, so I assume people aren't going to get help on learning about birth control or how to have a healthy pregnancy.

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A couple in China have been married for 7 years and haven't had any children. A visit to the doctor's reveals a shocking reason, and the prescription for the cure is even more stunning.



This unusual story came from Chinese media. According to the news, the couple married 7 years ago but haven't had any children. Their concerned parents asked them to visit the doctor's for a checkup. The doctor examined the couple and discovered the wife was still a virgin.


Apparently, they have only been hugging each other to sleep. Under separate questioning, it was confirmed that the husband and wife simply did not understand 'the birds and the bees,' as the saying goes. They have never had sex since (and obviously before) they got married.

The doctor tried to explain the important how-to to them, but they didn't seem to understand. Finally, he suggested that they watch some adult films.

Also according to the news, the husband is a teacher and the wife is an accountant. They are both around 30 years old, and they have been HAPPILY married for 7 years.

value-brand cereal posted:

Why do I get a vague feeling it's going to be an arms race to pump out as many sons as possible? More sons means healthy sperm and maximum face gain. I didn't see anything about sex education in that article, so I assume people aren't going to get help on learning about birth control or how to have a healthy pregnancy.

Grand Fromage posted:

Part of why the one child policy was such a waste of time is China already naturally got to the place where people are wealthy enough to stop having so many loving kids. The populations that still have a high birth rate are mostly the ones that were exempted from the policy anyway.

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Riptor posted:

4% or €20 million, whichever is bigger

Fojar38 posted:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/british-columbia/article-indigenous-groups-in-bc-welcome-traditional-chinese-medicine-clinics/

jfc havent they suffered enough

Patrocclesiastes posted:

Sorry i didnt read the 500 posts I missed, i want to pose a quiz to you.

Please enter your answer for if you think a global chinese state owned company has done anything, or even cares, about GDPR, go ahead, make a wild guess

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Blistex posted:

First Nations medicine at this point is equal parts willful ignorance, inventing "traditional remedies", and just plain spite. . . which seems to dovetail nicely with TCM.

The last FN school I worked at had a guy come in every other Friday to give a presentation on traditional FN healing methods and sell his wares for a massive markup. I personally witnessed him try and (maybe successfully) convince people not undertake western treatments for their cancers and other life-threatening conditions. When people would ask if they should take his medicines and undergo Chemo or a scheduled surgery, he would tell them the medicines don't work in conjunction with western treatments (which is technically correct since they don't work at all). He'd brag about all the different cases of cancer, Alzheimer's, and Parkinson's, but for some reason could never come up with the name of someone he cured, despite him telling us how many of his clients wanted him to spread the word of his medicines. (the students and staff were forced to listen to this for an hour every Friday)

90% of his remedies were cedar, juniper, and pine needles which he would sell in little baggies for prices close to what you would expect to pay for pot. After I had another job lined up for Sept, I decided to ask him during one of his presentations why I couldn't just walk 15 feet out the door and pick all three ingredients and boil them in water myself. His answer (which satisfied everyone in the audience) was that his materials had been blessed by special elders, and picked in a sacred grove.

nickmeister posted:

Careful, you're going to get the thread shut down again.