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It's just endlessly funny to see the various peaceful nature enthusiasts screaming for this kid's blood. By funny I mean evidence our species is doomed.
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cheetah7071 posted:You realize the best and really only way to let a natural forest come back is to wait for trees to grow naturally right Yes they do.
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May 23, 2018 06:37
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SeaborneClink posted:Yes they do. I just looked this up and you're right. That's pretty dumb given that regen is basically never a problem except in areas where climate change means a forest will never grow there again, but on the other hand that's super far down the list of dumb forest service fire policy
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May 23, 2018 06:41
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We need to stop jailing kids but can we please start with the black ones?
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May 23, 2018 06:57
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Soarer posted:Make him do the community service until he turns 18 and graduates high school. Then press him into the forestry service until the area is back to the way it was before he torched it. Hell even give him whatever salary they pay forestry workers, but tie his life to taking care of that area. source your embarrassingly bad quotes please let me guess..... comments from the oregonian?
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May 23, 2018 07:06
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cheetah7071 posted:I just looked this up and you're right. That's pretty dumb given that regen is basically never a problem except in areas where climate change means a forest will never grow there again But hey, at least you got this part right! cheetah7071 posted:but on the other hand that's super far down the list of dumb forest service fire policy
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May 23, 2018 07:08
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I have to wonder how many folks screaming for blood have actually held a forest service job or worked in the WCC or anything like that. It’s certainly the hardest job I’ve ever had - and that’s without having to face the immense damage he’s done every single time he goes out to work. It’s a good punishment.
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May 23, 2018 07:13
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The lesson you should all learn from this is that Oregon is full of vengeful wood elves and if you burn the sacred forests they will howl for your blood. The judge probably saved this kid's life by giving him a large symbolic fine that will be discharged while he's still a young adult.
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May 23, 2018 07:18
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I like how everyone is talking about crime and punishment, right and wrong, fair vs unfair. And yet nobody has directly addressed rehabilitation, which is always job one for justice.
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May 23, 2018 07:29
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Yeah most everyone reading this is likely older than this kid will be when this debt is discharged, it certainly isn't going to ruin his life by then.
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May 23, 2018 07:29
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This 36 million smells like those early RIAA and MPAA lawsuits and now nobody torrents
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May 23, 2018 08:05
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porkface posted:I like how everyone is talking about crime and punishment, right and wrong, fair vs unfair. And yet nobody has directly addressed rehabilitation, which is always job one for justice.
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May 23, 2018 17:34
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Depends on how far along their affluenza infection is. Sometimes there’s just nothing we can do.
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May 23, 2018 17:46
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Teabag Dome Scandal posted:This 36 million smells like those early RIAA and MPAA lawsuits and now nobody torrents I assume this is sarcasm but it would be interesting to me to know how many people still torrent when streaming has frankly become far more convenient.
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anthonypants posted:Are well-off white kids even capable of rehabilitation idk ask Bill Gates and get back to me
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May 23, 2018 18:52
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dont even fink about it posted:I assume this is sarcasm but it would be interesting to me to know how many people still torrent when streaming has frankly become far more convenient.
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May 23, 2018 20:17
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Streaming is great until you want to watch something Netflix has decided is physical disc only because gently caress you.
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May 23, 2018 21:27
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Javid posted:Streaming is great until you want to watch something Netflix has decided is physical disc only because gently caress you. Netflix doesn't decide this. Media companies are pulling content to put on their own streaming services.
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:The judge probably saved this kid's life by giving him [an albatross] that will be discharged while he's still a young adult.
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May 25, 2018 20:04
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Cougar killed and started to eat a biker out by me, even made the NYTs. Cougar Attacks Two Bicyclists in Washington State, Killing One https://nyti.ms/2IYfUtv
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Flying guns are comin for us http://komonews.com/news/local/flying-gun-gets-lodged-in-bumper-of-passing-car-on-i-5 seriously what the gently caress
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silicone thrills posted:seriously what the flying gently caress ftfy
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May 25, 2018 20:56
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BrandorKP posted:Cougar killed and started to eat a biker out by me, even made the NYTs. The time to stop building suburban McMansion sprawl for lovely white people who don't want to see the poor/minorities was like 40 years ago btw. Look forward to more and more of this poo poo. One of the places where I work is still fairly rural but there are plans for a big development that's going to basically wipe an entire hillside of wildlife habitat and there have already been several cougar sightings where they are going to be clearing for their idiot houses. At this point I'm rooting for the cougars.
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May 25, 2018 21:29
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This was way the hell out there, further out than Ernies Grove. Some of the photos of sightings the cougar I recognize yards from Ernies Grove in. It's not a sprawl area ( atleast, not yet). Most of the growth in NB is happening in or near downtown, well away from this.
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silicone thrills posted:Flying guns are comin for us Once the gun is no longer evidence, does he get to keep it?
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BrandorKP posted:Cougar killed and started to eat a biker out by me, even made the NYTs. with bonus stealth AC (especially rural ones) AB, even quote:It released him and chased after the other cyclist, who had started to run. The authorities identified that cyclist as Sonja J. Brooks.
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Space Gopher posted:with bonus stealth AC (especially rural ones) AB, even That quote caused a little freakout. It seemed really unlikely that there were two trans people about that age, bike enthusiasts, prefers they/them, lived in King County, and called SJ but my wife has a friend matching those details that wasn't killed by a cougar. Also, another article mentioned in the autopsy the cougar was not starving. For a wild animal to be driven away and then come back to attack is weird. I've read of cougar attacks against hikers over the years and victims were always lone injured/injured seeming adults or children ambushed with little warning. I wonder if this is going to end up like that brown bear that went berserk in a campground and turned out to have a very specifically placed tumor.
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It's making me re-evaluate my go away animal kit. Normally I just have bear spray and some decently sized rocks
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BrandorKP posted:It's making me re-evaluate my go away animal kit. Normally I just have bear spray and some decently sized rocks What would you add to it? Anything that can't be dealt with using bear spray is probably going to take a rifle to deal with successfully.
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May 28, 2018 04:25
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Vuvuzella and a megaphone.
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therobit posted:What would you add to it? Anything that can't be dealt with using bear spray is probably going to take a rifle to deal with successfully. That's the problem, I'm definitely not interested in adding a firearm. HEY NONG MAN posted:Vuvuzella and a megaphone. You might be onto something here. An airhorn might be a good add.
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BrandorKP posted:That's the problem, I'm definitely not interested in adding a firearm. If animal attacks figure sufficiently into your plans to be having this discussion, a gun is an entirely reasonable piece of that kit. "hey guys I just bought a boat and I need to haul it, but I'm definitely not interested in owning a trailer, what should I do??"
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Javid posted:If animal attacks figure sufficiently into your plans to be having this discussion, a gun is an entirely reasonable piece of that kit. We get bears and elk in town. It's not an unreasonable choice. I'm just not going to do it, especially if there are alternatives. I'd say there seems to be a story about every quarter of a year about somebody getting killed by the wilderness out here. From fell off the ledge, to exposure, to got between mama bear and her cubs. Predatory attack are a relatively infrequent behavior, but early spring would be the season for them. Rationally i know I'm probably worrying about it more than I should be. Edit: and there's also all the dumbness I see from other people, these are some of the most (Mt. Si, might be the most? )popular trail heads in the state. Bar Ran Dun fucked around with this message at 22:47 on May 28, 2018 |
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Instagram and online dating photos have loving ruined hiking in this state.
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DrNutt posted:Instagram and online dating photos have loving ruined hiking in this state. Only on the weekends. I don't even try to go to anything popular on weekends. Living out here makes it easy in the afternoons, it's much, much better during the week. Save the trails people don't know about for Saturday and Sunday.
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BrandorKP posted:It's making me re-evaluate my go away animal kit. Normally I just have bear spray and some decently sized rocks Bear spray is still your best bet. I've never heard of anything else comparably effective at deterring. Otherwise advice I heard from a ranger with brown bear experience once is that any weapon sufficient to matter is also going to be one too heavy to carry on a random hike. This is really just a severely unlikely random roll. For the most part animals are easily deterred (loud noises, spray, boop the snoot, throw rocks, etc) and want to flee anyway. If for whatever reason they don't you are proper hosed and there's nothing you can do. Bears and cougars are so much more physically capable than a person you can't out run, climb, or fight them without some serious tools and know how. Stat wise the chance of that happening is so much tinier than dying in a car crash I've never paid it much mind. I've spent weeks hiking with nothing protection wise except a small knife (mostly for cutting pepperoni and cheese). More important is proper camp etiquette with food smells and bear bagging and such. If I was hiking in Alaska or some such place with tons of brown bears I'd probably get some bear spray though. edit: Wasps are the real bastards. Even if you aren't super allergic it's still dangerous to get stung by a bunch and that can happen with some dumb luck stumbling into a hive. I think stat wise they are your most likely dangerous encounter. They are also way more likely to attack you for no reason because they are just intrinsically assholes. FuzzySlippers fucked around with this message at 00:27 on May 29, 2018 |
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BrandorKP posted:Only on the weekends. I don't even try to go to anything popular on weekends. Living out here makes it easy in the afternoons, it's much, much better during the week. Save the trails people don't know about for Saturday and Sunday. Yeah and unfortunately as long as the misses has a M-F job that's what we get for the time being. Unless we get up early enough to be at a trailhead by 7 or 8 it's usually not worth it. Seen a lot of people taking their dogs into State Parks lately too; people just don't seem to give a gently caress about anyone else. This is probably very "old man yells at cloud" ish. 
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DrNutt posted:Seen a lot of people taking their dogs into State Parks lately too; people just don't seem to give a gently caress about anyone else. They don't pick up thier dog poo poo either. Then others scream obscenities at people in town as we walk our dogs. Yay.
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BrandorKP posted:They don't pick up thier dog poo poo either. Then others scream obscenities at people in town as we walk our dogs. Yay. Look it's called DOG MOUNTAIN so I don't know what you expect.
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