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I wonder how much better Hotel Transylvania would have been perceived if Adam Sandler wasn't involved at all.
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Probably not at all. People love Adam Sandler, they just don't like Adam Sandler/Happy Madison movies.
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May 28, 2018 14:08
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paradoxGentleman posted:I watched the first one and was pretty unimpressed. I miiight have watched the second one but it's just as likely that I saw clips on youtube. I don't remember. Theyre both terrible films but the second is at least a better lesson and film even if it has some weird attitudes to miscegenation.
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May 28, 2018 14:27
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Adam Sandler isn't the problem with the Hotel Transylvania franchise. I do like the animation in the first one though but everything else wasn't that good Edit: wait forgot about THE ZING
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May 28, 2018 15:31
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I liked the first Hotel Transylvania fine. It felt like it had some kind of a heart, although the end dance party rap off was like actually being tortured IRL. Like I think that whole scene with Dracula and uh... Andy Samberg... where Dracula tells him about what happened to his wife and talking about Mavis liking him, etc. That's a good little scene! And the animation in both movies is stellar. But the second movie is a story that just didn't need to be told. No one cares about Mavis' and Andy Samberg's kid. Also I want that poor werewolf dad to get some sleep
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May 28, 2018 15:42
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GrandpaPants posted:I wonder how much better Hotel Transylvania would have been perceived if Adam Sandler wasn't involved at all. A co-worker of mine loves those movies and didn't even realize Adam Sandler was in them until I mentioned I'm not really a fan of him.
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May 28, 2018 15:45
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Macaluso posted:I liked the first Hotel Transylvania fine. It felt like it had some kind of a heart, although the end dance party rap off was like actually being tortured IRL. The whole Zing thing feels like an asspull though.
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May 28, 2018 16:50
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I think Hotel Translyvania would be better if the movie didn't decide to focus way too much on Adam Sandler and his friends. I feel like the daughter/love interest barely got any character development compared to Adam Sandler's character.
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May 28, 2018 17:51
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Hotel Transylvania 2 was on its way on having a perfectly good, rarely seen lesson that a lot of parents need to be taught but they hosed it all up at the very end
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May 28, 2018 17:57
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I havn't seen Hotel Transylvania 2 but I was kind of surprised/impressed at how young Mavis and Andy Samberg looked like they were to be parents.
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May 28, 2018 18:44
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The Steve Buscemi werewolf character is gold. I want a spin-off.
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Calaveron posted:Hotel Transylvania 2 was on its way on having a perfectly good, rarely seen lesson that a lot of parents need to be taught but they hosed it all up at the very end Wait, could you elaborate on this? I thought the moral was "love your children even if they are not what you want them to be"? ...wait, does it turn out that the baby has vampire powers after all? :C
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paradoxGentleman posted:Wait, could you elaborate on this? I thought the moral was "love your children even if they are not what you want them to be"? Yes the baby has powers all along
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May 29, 2018 00:00
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Barudak posted:Yes the baby has powers all along Much like The Incredibles funny enough.
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Nude posted:Much like The Incredibles funny enough. The Incredibles never really brought up Jack Jack not having powers as an issue though.
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May 29, 2018 01:40
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IShallRiseAgain posted:The Incredibles never really brought up Jack Jack not having powers as an issue though. That's because it wasn't an issue up to that point, if he'd gotten to be 4 or 5 and still didn't have powers they were just gonna drown him.
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May 29, 2018 01:49
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Eh, the kid having vampire powers doesn't really matter. The grandpa comes to his senses about him before it's revealed that he has the powers. The point of "love your children no matter what" still stands, although the first movie has a pretty similar message so it's not really all that necessary in the first place
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May 29, 2018 03:52
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Robindaybird posted:The whole Zing thing feels like an asspull though. My roommate really, REALLY hates the "zing" thing because they basically pushed "you can only find your true love once and only once" crap. He was offended since he saw it after his mother had died and his father was about to marry his new step-mother and was actually happy. But nope. Movie says you can't find another person if your other love dies. I think he hates Adam Sandler too. Which is fair. Calaveron posted:Hotel Transylvania 2 was on its way on having a perfectly good, rarely seen lesson that a lot of parents need to be taught but they hosed it all up at the very end Hotel Transylvania 2 removed the funniest joke in the whole movie (the diabetes one) JUST because of two whiny soccer moms. It's not even in the home release. Sony caved to those two people (yes, only two...I checked) making a bunch of noise online. and removed it everywhere. The two claimed that the joke (A monster was eating an entire cake and another monster says "Remember kids! The real monster is diabetes!") was insulting to children with diabetes. Except it's not because they were going on about Type 1 Diabetes, the joke is about Type 2. They claimed their children were bullied over it or some lie. It's about as bad as the recent Show Dogs joke censoring because of a conservative group in the US. That got so much stink that an Australian theater banned the movie and the group tried to force Regal and AMC to remove it here. So, despite not wanting to back down at first, the studio just caved and removed the joke from all showings in the US this past Friday. ThermoPhysical fucked around with this message at 05:13 on May 29, 2018 |
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May 29, 2018 05:08
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to be fair the Show Dogs thing was, like, legitimately hosed up in a way it's stunning nobody noticed prior to the movie's release
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May 29, 2018 05:17
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Just looked that up and holy poo poo.
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May 29, 2018 05:22
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i mean...is it? like, when the australian government's classification board goes out of their way to say the complaints are wrong and idiotic you know something's up because our government is a lot stricter on this sort of thing (see here: http://www.classification.gov.au/Public/Resources/Documents/2018-media-releases/25may2018--classification-of-the-film-show-dogs.pdf) (for example, they banned an episode of peppa pig because its moral was "spiders aren't scary" and this is a bad message for a children's show in australia)
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May 29, 2018 05:52
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Did you read about the joke? It's dogs telling other dogs that to get ahead in the world, sometimes Master has to touch their genitals. Even if they don't understand why, you've just got to go to your happy place and close ypur eyes and ignore it, because parts of the world are inconceivable as a dog so just let them touch your genitals. Do you not see a problem with that?
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May 29, 2018 05:57
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It's pretty amazing they didn't realize what the reaction would be, especially what with just about everyone in Hollywood being outed as sex fiends the past year or so.
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May 29, 2018 06:09
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Also double weird now to have a cast member of Arrested Development mansplaining to you why it's not a big deal
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May 29, 2018 06:14
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:Did you read about the joke? It's dogs telling other dogs that to get ahead in the world, sometimes Master has to touch their genitals. Even if they don't understand why, you've just got to go to your happy place and close ypur eyes and ignore it, because parts of the world are inconceivable as a dog so just let them touch your genitals. this seems like a classic case of adults thinking of the worst possible interpretation of a way a child could see something like, a kid's actual response to this is "oh yeah like when i go to the doctor and they have to stick weird things in my ears and nose", not "being sexually molested is great"
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May 29, 2018 06:16
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Yeah, but probably not to the kid inside those situations. A movie, that says extremely similar things that Uncle A loving Monster does, might make them think their situation is normal. That it's best to accept the abuse, that it's normal, that they shouldn't seek help or try fighting it. I'm not going to say that it's a likely chance that world and this movie would overlap, but as a society we should actively fight a movie which makes a joke out of someone (who has a distinct power over the other character) making someone uncomfortable by touching them in a sensitive (emotionally and physically) area.
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May 29, 2018 07:42
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It's literally 'if you want to win you must let the stranger touch you'. It's amazingly tone deaf.
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May 29, 2018 07:50
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The joke was pretty ignorant of the implications at best and really creepy and gross at worst. My main concern is now there's a precedent set that tells pretty much anyone that if you hate something about a movie, complain enough and you 100% will get your way and it'll be edited while it's still in theaters and maybe on home release too. I'm sure there's many scenes in movies that would be nitpicked into oblivion now for being "too much". Like Up's opening scenes, Sid treating the toys like he does, Lotso trying to incinerate the toys, and Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol 1's opening scene of Peter Quill's mother dying of cancer. People actually complained that the latter's opening scene was "too much" and that they couldn't sit through it because it was so sad. My roommate brought up a good point that this should've been used as learning experience. Watch the movie with your kid and explain that that scene does NOT mean you should just be ok with being touched like that if you're not comfortable. But no, no one wants to do that, they'd rather complain until the scene is removed and they don't have to talk about it if their kid sees it. However, as my roommate pointed out, if they didn't talk about it and the kid saw that scene and then it unfortunately happened to them, they'd possibly get the wrong idea.
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ThermoPhysical posted:My roommate brought up a good point that this should've been used as learning experience. Watch the movie with your kid and explain that that scene does NOT mean you should just be ok with being touched like that if you're not comfortable. But no, no one wants to do that, they'd rather complain until the scene is removed and they don't have to talk about it if their kid sees it. However, as my roommate pointed out, if they didn't talk about it and the kid saw that scene and then it unfortunately happened to them, they'd possibly get the wrong idea. I think the better solution is not taking your kid to a creepy movie where they think a scene about forced genital touching is a good idea. Also, if a studio thinks that the scene is a hill worth dying for, then they shouldn't be surprised there are consequences. Why the hell would theaters put out their necks like that for a lovely children's movie? Nobody is obligated to distribute a bad film.
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Macaluso posted:Eh, the kid having vampire powers doesn't really matter. The grandpa comes to his senses about him before it's revealed that he has the powers. The point of "love your children no matter what" still stands, although the first movie has a pretty similar message so it's not really all that necessary in the first place Yeah but then the movie has its cake and eats it too
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Show Dogs just looked pretty loving awful, and given the premise, we're probably going to get a bunch of gay stereotypes, honestly the dog junk touching scene probably should've been cut for how creepy it was. It says something the studio claim it's standard for showing, when the AKC and other dog organizations went 'WTF? No Judge gropes a dog's junk you weirdos"
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May 29, 2018 14:59
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ungulateman posted:this seems like a classic case of adults thinking of the worst possible interpretation of a way a child could see something yeah, uh, about that like seriously how did you get through a whole sentence of defending "adults are gonna do funny touches on you and it's not your place to question why" on the grounds that kids aren't going to understand that's molestation and not think twice A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 19:15 on May 29, 2018 |
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May 29, 2018 19:12
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I have made yet another video about cartoons https://youtu.be/qhXHFwZ4BT0 VVVVVV Aww, thanks! Unmature fucked around with this message at 22:19 on May 29, 2018 |
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May 29, 2018 21:32
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Unmature posted:I have made yet another video about cartoons Cool, I'll have to watch it after work. I really liked your previous videos, and have been hoping there would be more.
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May 29, 2018 22:10
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https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1001542476337958912 I mean....yeah, I'd watch Paul Rudd be friends with Sonic.
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May 29, 2018 22:42
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Unmature posted:I have made yet another video about cartoons I half wish you went a little more in depth, but an excellent primer none-the-less. What mic do you use?
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May 29, 2018 22:42
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Waffleman_ posted:https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1001542476337958912 Sonic’s gonna say “blue lives matter” isn’t he?
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May 29, 2018 22:50
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Schwarzwald posted:I half wish you went a little more in depth, but an excellent primer none-the-less. I try and keep it to a reasonable length. Right now I'm using a Rode NT1
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Waffleman_ posted:https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1001542476337958912 Credit where credit is due, of all the decisions that could have been made for this movie this is one of the very small handful that would raise my interest above zero.
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As a lifelong Sonic fan who is named Tom, I don't think my friends are gonna ever let me live this one down.
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