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I hate the Fountainhead more than any Superman movie.
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Barry Convex posted:And to think that some of the Snyder fans have actually convinced themselves that BvS and MoS have leftist anti-capitalist messages. i'd say the movie where superman punches a predator drone leans a bit to the left, yeah
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May 29, 2018 01:17
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ashpanash posted:It's pretty fascinating sometimes. I wade in CD occasionally with comments but I'm basically told, unambiguously, that I'm not only wrong, I'm actually thinking something different - deep down, in my heart, I apparently actually agree with them - but I'm not acknowledging it because... (and then they trail off.) I commented on how bad the JL Flash costume was (and it's horrible) and I got shouted down pretty quickly.
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May 29, 2018 01:19
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Barry Convex posted:And to think that some of the Snyder fans have actually convinced themselves that BvS and MoS have leftist anti-capitalist messages. I have a friend who truly and fully believes that Snyder's take on The Fountainhead would be to present individualism as a terrible ideology and show society at large how much these ideas that have become synonymous with capitalism are morally wrong. It's the hardest our discord has nodded along and let a topic go.
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May 29, 2018 01:22
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Rhyno posted:I commented on how bad the JL Flash costume was (and it's horrible) and I got shouted down pretty quickly. No you didn't, you said it was bad and about three posters (myself included) responded with simple "I liked it" posts. Hell mine was, "I liked it, but wished the movie was actually good"
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May 29, 2018 01:23
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Okay, I apologise for starting this 'CD sucks' derail.
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May 29, 2018 01:25
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MacheteZombie posted:No you didn't, you said it was bad and about three posters (myself included) responded with simple "I liked it" posts. Hell mine was, "I liked it, but wished the movie was actually good" Oh yeah. Well your opinion is about as bad as CD as a whole because that costume is loving rear end.
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May 29, 2018 01:27
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:I have a friend who truly and fully believes that Snyder's take on The Fountainhead would be to present individualism as a terrible ideology and show society at large how much these ideas that have become synonymous with capitalism are morally wrong. I guarantee you that this will be the usual suspects' spin on this news. I'm pretty sure it already is, in fact.
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May 29, 2018 01:27
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Rhyno posted:Oh yeah. Lol
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May 29, 2018 01:27
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I doubt that, his stated reason for making that film has always been about his experience with the creative process and outside interference, so Roark and the government or whatever (I haven't read it) will probably be analogues for himself and Warner Bros
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May 29, 2018 01:33
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:I doubt that, his stated reason for making that film has always been about his experience with the creative process and outside interference, so Roark and the government or whatever (I haven't read it) will probably be analogues for himself and Warner Bros He's making it for Warner Bros. It's Warner Bros' script.
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May 29, 2018 02:21
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Fangz posted:He's making it for Warner Bros. It's Warner Bros' script. So?
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May 29, 2018 02:38
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Rhyno posted:Oh yeah. That costume was terrible and still managed to be the best thing about that entire character.
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May 29, 2018 03:13
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The Fountainhead is a weird book because the main character is a bad architect because he only designs what he wants and doesn't care what his clients actually want. While the "bad" architect is popular and rich because he designs buildings that are fashionable and popular, this is somehow a bad thing. Also the main character rapes the lead female character halfway through the book.
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May 29, 2018 03:27
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muscles like this! posted:The Fountainhead is a weird book because the main character is a bad architect because he only designs what he wants and doesn't care what his clients actually want. While the "bad" architect is popular and rich because he designs buildings that are fashionable and popular, this is somehow a bad thing. So it's basically Zach Snyder vs. Kevin Feige
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May 29, 2018 03:47
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muscles like this! posted:The Fountainhead is a weird book because the main character is a bad architect because he only designs what he wants and doesn't care what his clients actually want. While the "bad" architect is popular and rich because he designs buildings that are fashionable and popular, this is somehow a bad thing. It's been literally over 20 years (nearly 25?) since I read it but my memory is that the "bad" architect made buildings that were fashionable to "society elites" but bad at their intended use and expensive, while the main character designed a building that was super-functional/affordable but didn't have gargoyles or something. When I had a class on ethics waaaay back when there was a noticeable parallel to discussion of the Challenger explosion - the shuttle engineers knew that the o-rings were flawed but there was a lot of pressure to have the launch without delays, and the engineers didn't go as far as they could/should have to stop the launch.
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May 29, 2018 04:41
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JT Smiley posted:That costume was terrible and still managed to be the best thing about that entire character. A real shame because Miller is a great actor. But jesus his stupid running.
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May 29, 2018 05:03
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Zachack posted:the main character designed a building that was super-functional/affordable but didn't have gargoyles or something. Yeah but gargoyles own and more buildings should have gargoyles so the protagonist is in fact the dipshit who is wrong
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May 29, 2018 07:03
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DP question: Do they really fridge his girlfriend? :\
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May 29, 2018 08:19
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The writer who came up with the term fridging says no.
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May 29, 2018 09:50
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Why would I trust a writer for Green Lantern?!
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May 29, 2018 10:31
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I think they mean Gail Simone 
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May 29, 2018 11:20
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Fangz posted:Okay, I apologise for starting this 'CD sucks' derail. Pretty much the only purpose of this thread is for people to talk about how scared they are of posting in CD.
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May 29, 2018 12:13
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Barry Convex posted:And to think that some of the Snyder fans have actually convinced themselves that BvS and MoS have leftist anti-capitalist messages. They very clearly do. It's very difficult to miss this. Dan Didio posted:Pretty much the only purpose of this thread is for people to talk about how scared they are of posting in CD. For all the whining about the hive-mind of CD, this place is just as cultish and hive-minded, just in the opposite direction. Also, there's a lot of exaggeration going on. Like, Rhyno wasn't chased out of CD, a couple posters just politely disagreed with him and he equates that with being shouted down. McCloud fucked around with this message at 12:44 on May 29, 2018 |
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May 29, 2018 12:38
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I didn't say I was chased out, I continued to post after that. But it's still a crappy, hivemind subforum.
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May 29, 2018 13:07
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Rhyno posted:I didn't say I was chased out, I continued to post after that. You're technically correct, which is the best kind of correct, my mistake. Having said that, I don't think you were shouted down either. Rhyno posted:But it's still a crappy, hivemind subforum. Pot, kettle, etc etc. Difference is this is a hivemind you're more attuned too. And that's fine! Sometimes we just want to shitpost without a dozen people jumping on your neck, but let's call a spade a spade here, and stop pretending this place is a bastion of enlightened unbiased common sense. This is a shelbyville-springfield situation, people should drop the persecution complex, both sides are terrible in their own way.
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May 29, 2018 13:23
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This isn't a CD complaint thread. As has been stated many times. If you're thinking about posting about CD then don't.
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May 29, 2018 13:45
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Zachack posted:It's been literally over 20 years (nearly 25?) since I read it but my memory is that the "bad" architect made buildings that were fashionable to "society elites" but bad at their intended use and expensive, while the main character designed a building that was super-functional/affordable but didn't have gargoyles or something. When I had a class on ethics waaaay back when there was a noticeable parallel to discussion of the Challenger explosion - the shuttle engineers knew that the o-rings were flawed but there was a lot of pressure to have the launch without delays, and the engineers didn't go as far as they could/should have to stop the launch. The bigger thing and why he was a Randian Ubermensch was that he refused to compromise his ideals of making good buildings by even allowing his name to be used in a building where he redesigned the interior of a building Bad Architect since it would still have the contemporary facade. Like there is a whole thing about him redrawing the interior to unfurl strange hallways and give every office a window or whatever. Being a Randian Ubermensch he also knows how to actually work with the materials as is evidenced by him helping a construction worker cut a beam (I believe? It's been 15 years or so since I read it.).
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May 29, 2018 13:58
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This is technically him complaining about BSS so I think it's still clear.McCloud posted:For all the whining about the hive-mind of CD, this place is just as cultish and hive-minded, just in the opposite direction. No that's just how things in life seem when you're wrong.
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May 29, 2018 14:07
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Rhyno posted:A real shame because Miller is a great actor. But jesus his stupid running. That's one of those moments where you know a group of production people sat around trying to come up with the most efficient way for someone with super speed to run instead of just letting him run like a normal human being.
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May 29, 2018 16:37
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Synthbuttrange posted:DP question: Do they really fridge his girlfriend? :\ Yes and it's bad but still somehow not as bad as in Solo
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May 29, 2018 17:20
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Solo doesn't do that though?
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May 29, 2018 17:26
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Technically Not for the main character but for 2 of the male side characters but I don't know that I'd call that fridging. Deadpool 2 definitely fridges Vanessa but makes up for it by fixing the timeline
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May 29, 2018 19:00
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Sgt. Politeness posted:Technically Not for the main character but for 2 of the male side characters but I don't know that I'd call that fridging. Fridging isn't "a woman dies". A heroic sacrifice isn't that. I forgot the droid though.
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May 29, 2018 19:04
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Sgt. Politeness posted:Deadpool 2 definitely fridges Vanessa but makes up for it by fixing the timeline eh, altering the timeline wasn't really necessary to "make up for it" since even after her death Vanessa remained present in the film as a distinct character, and moving her to be a stand-in for the character of Death is far from the worst way of handling things moving forward if you're trying to keep the film character broadly consistent with the comics regarding things like all of his relationships being doomed and his continued existence a torment that said, as someone who liked the alternate takes on the characters in the first movie and was really hoping Vanessa would stay alive/be used well in any sequels I'm quite happy it was one of the things they fixed in the post-credits e: I'm also pretty sure it's not "fridging" in the original sense as Vanessa is not treated as disposable and her death isn't used as a primary source of motivation for the hero to engage in a conflict with an antagonist, or even to directly motivate the hero to engage in a certain course of action/lifestyle- her murderer is disposed of in the same scene/doesn't tie directly into the broader plot, and while her death and the depressive spiral Wade enters definitely heavily informs and affects his later actions, it's also not the primary motivation behind his decision to go all-out in saving Russell "fridging" definitely prompted a productive broader discussion about how female characters are treated in comics (and related media) and what DP2 does with Vanessa as a character absolutely fits into that discussion, but I don't know that "fridging" remains a useful term if it's broadened to encompass any time a woman dies in a story LGD fucked around with this message at 20:04 on May 29, 2018 |
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May 29, 2018 19:18
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So Blumhouse has announced the new Spawn movie starring Jamie Fox.
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May 29, 2018 20:22
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This truly is hell.
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May 29, 2018 20:28
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Holy poo poo he actually got Jamie Foxx to do it?
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May 29, 2018 20:29
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"the directorial debut of Spawn creator Todd McFarlane" This is gonna be good ha ha
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May 29, 2018 20:29
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lomzus posted:"the directorial debut of Spawn creator Todd McFarlane" What if it actually is
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