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PMush Perfect posted:This is another one of those LPs that makes me feel like I could make a better Essentials game in six months while drunk than this. Even lovely dialogue would be better as long as it avoids being too edgy or LOLRANDOM, and that's not a high bar to clear either. I'm trying to think of how you'd rewrite, say, Julia to be not-terrible, and it'd probably be quickest just to get rid of her entirely and start from scratch.
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Haifisch posted:I'm trying to think of how you'd rewrite, say, Julia to be not-terrible, and it'd probably be quickest just to get rid of her entirely and start from scratch. Oh, that's easy. You just need to replace her with Megumin, you keep all the explosions while having a far more enjoyable character. That'll probably need a type change though, Megumin wouldn't use electricity, only explosions.
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May 31, 2018 17:03
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Blaze Dragon posted:Oh, that's easy. You just need to replace her with Megumin, you keep all the explosions while having a far more enjoyable character. Since the game has way too many gyms (or is planning them), a joke leader with an all-self-destructing team could have been great.
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May 31, 2018 17:05
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quote:"Study notes: Ninjask Stat Caps" Dragonatrix posted:I... appreciate(??) that's both pointless, useless cruft and actively, intentionally misleading just because. This really highlights the... cargo cultish nature of this game, doesn't it? (for lack of a better term) Every design decision we've seen, pretty much, has been imitation without understanding of something, I guess now it's Smogon's turn. It's the same approach they're taking to difficulty and "mature plots". Isn't that something that people were saying in the Uranium thread too, that the failure mode of fangames is imitating by default without understanding why the original decision was made? It's not even hard to understand how this happens, given they have to (and no doubt want to) maintain some level of familiarity with official entries, but it's incredibly easy to do badly and the end results are... things like this.
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May 31, 2018 17:12
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Haifisch posted:
I was just discussing this with someone, and how most Electric-type Gym leaders are studious or fairly serious, that you could have an excitable peppy Electric Gym Leader being like a kid's Science Show Host (like Bill Nye) or Mythbusters, and theme the gym 'puzzles' around basic principles like conductivity or polarity (for electromagnetism). You can even keep the love of booms, but with tapering so they're not inappropriately giddy over a terrorist bombing. It wouldn't be anything like Julia, but Julia is a bad character.
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May 31, 2018 17:41
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Robindaybird posted:you could have an excitable peppy Electric Gym Leader being like a kid's Science Show Host Clemont and his little sister Bonnie from Gen 6. They were irritating.
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Small brain: Boring straight laced Electric leader Big brain: Super nerdy and/or peppy Electric leader Galaxy brain: Fat, jolly Electric leader who is brutal enough to be used as a unit of measurement.
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May 31, 2018 18:07
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Since the game has way too many gyms (or is planning them), a joke leader with an all-self-destructing team could have been great. But only if several of the Pokemon you bump into have sturdy.
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May 31, 2018 18:09
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PMush Perfect posted:Small brain: Boring straight laced Electric leader "Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they tell me to have a battle with you. Sigh."
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May 31, 2018 18:12
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Explopyro posted:"Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they tell me to have a battle with you. Sigh." "Man, that League Champion battle was at least 2.5 Marvins."
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May 31, 2018 18:28
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Haifisch posted:That's not exactly a high bar to clear. You could make a game with zero plot or dialogue, just captures and battles, and it'd be better than this. NGDBSS fucked around with this message at 19:46 on May 31, 2018 |
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May 31, 2018 19:44
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Explopyro posted:"Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they tell me to have a battle with you. Sigh." 
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May 31, 2018 19:48
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NGDBSS posted:Megaman Square Root of Negative One
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May 31, 2018 20:13
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PMush Perfect posted:How have I never heard of this Because it sounds imaginary?
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May 31, 2018 20:51
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Haifisch posted:That's not exactly a high bar to clear. You could make a game with zero plot or dialogue, just captures and battles, and it'd be better than this. A very, very small part of me just wants to rewrite all the text in this game. It would still be bad, but it would be better.
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May 31, 2018 21:10
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PMush Perfect posted:Small brain: Boring straight laced Electric leader Where does traumatized war veteran Gym Leader fit into this equation?
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May 31, 2018 21:21
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chiasaur11 posted:Where does traumatized war veteran Gym Leader fit into this equation? Vermillion City.
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May 31, 2018 21:49
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Reading about the leaked demo for Pokemon Gold/Silver and now reading this thread brought me to a horrible conclusion ... Fangames will totally make polished up versions of those scrapped pokemon and incorporate them into their poo poo, fitting or not.
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Ritznit posted:Reading about the leaked demo for Pokemon Gold/Silver and now reading this thread brought me to a horrible conclusion ... Fangames will totally make polished up versions of those scrapped pokemon and incorporate them into their poo poo, fitting or not. Y U P. I'm imagining a tonne of "GS remake" hacks are already basing themselves on the prototype version.
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On the other hand, maybe we'll get an AM2R situation and the last one standing will be really good?
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Honestly using these unused or changed concepts isn't a terrible idea. I'd even be down for a hacked GS or HGSS that added them in for kicks. certainly i'd rather they use these than make their own, questionable additions.
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Reborn would absolutely be the game to incorporate proto-remoraid which is just A Gun.
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Jun 1, 2018 04:00
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Onmi posted:Y U P. I'm imagining a tonne of "GS remake" hacks are already basing themselves on the prototype version. On the bright side, it would at least lead to a Johto game with more than 2 Ghost-type lines.
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Ephraim225 posted:On the bright side, it would at least lead to a Johto game with more than 2 Ghost-type lines. I've always been baffled that they put a Ghost gym leader into the game with one new ghost type, and didn't even put it into his team.
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Haifisch posted:I've always been baffled that they put a Ghost gym leader into the game with one new ghost type, and didn't even put it into his team. They really had no idea what to do with a good number of Johto Pokemon (Misdreavus and Sneasel, obviously, but at least Houndour and Murkrow too), so they sort of lazily threw them in the postgame 
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U.T. Raptor posted:The same with Pryce and Sneasel. Lance's team has three Dragonites because they added exactly one dragon in G/S/C (to make a grand total of two fully evolved) and Clair snatched it up for herself. Kind of insane how prevalent dragon-types are nowadays considering the dearth of them in the first two gens. Same for ghost for that matter.
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rannum posted:Honestly using these unused or changed concepts isn't a terrible idea. I'd even be down for a hacked GS or HGSS that added them in for kicks. Oh, if they'd be done well, I'd love it. That's exactly the sorta thing fan stuff can explore and have fun with. Nah, I meant specifically bad fangames that just slap them on top without thinking it through.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Because it sounds imaginary? Booooooooo 
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RareAcumen posted:Now do one where it's full of eyes. Done.
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By god, it's full of
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poo poo, I didn't realize this was actually a touhoumon hack
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theshim posted:poo poo, I didn't realize this was actually a touhoumon hack I was thinking Alucard, but that works too.
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I have to say I'm with everyone on how much of a pile of garbage this hack is. I mean, if you're going to make a hack out source the play testing to casuals if you're trying to get everyone to play it so you know what works and what doesn't. Otherwise say SOMEWHERE that it is not to be played like a normal game and that you have to do some actual thinking to get past some parts and not "put best pokemon in first slot, put best move in first slot, press A until victory". However, there is one thing I have to question OFS about. As you're keeping a running total of a few things, how is it that your "Confirmed Dead" is so off? It should be sitting at a nice 6, not 1. Yes, we know about the one girls boyfriend, but you clearly stated right after the crash that none of the other possible PC avatars made it. Do they not count as real people?
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Ben Kasack posted:Do they not count as real people? Does anyone in this game?
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azren posted:I was thinking Alucard, but that works too. I was thinking Pride here.
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Ben Kasack posted:However, there is one thing I have to question OFS about. As you're keeping a running total of a few things, how is it that your "Confirmed Dead" is so off? It should be sitting at a nice 6, not 1. Yes, we know about the one girls boyfriend, but you clearly stated right after the crash that none of the other possible PC avatars made it. Do they not count as real people? It's not bluntly stated they are most assuredly dead, and it's not stated how many people are on the train. The confirmed deaths counter is for when they start killing off characters.
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azren posted:Done.
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Robindaybird posted:I was thinking Pride here. My first thought was the country transmutation circle. Also how often should we be expecting the game to pull an Elesa in terms of surprise team comps?
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azren posted:Done. Yukari wouldn't touch this game with a ten foot pole. She'd gap it into oblivion 
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azren posted:Done. Can't wait for the texture hack where someone replaces all of those with Sharingans.
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