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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:It's just a fuckin shame the moratorium of Steel also applies to Shaq's Steel, and Real Steel from a couple years ago It doesn't. Nor does it apply to Remington Steele, who is the superhero we all deserve. For you young ones, Remington was a phony stand-in
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I honestly don't see why the studio would fund it unless he has a really good contract. I'd rather see the "300 but with George Washington on the Potomac" he's talked about
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May 31, 2018 13:14
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X-O posted:It doesn't. Nor does it apply to Remington Steele, who is the superhero we all deserve. For you young ones, Remington was a phony stand-in My fanfic version of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen in the 80s would be the Equalizer, Darkman, Jennifer Hart from Hart to Hart and Murdoc from MacGyver, and Remington Steele would be M, then they'd all be very surprised to learn the truth.  A.I. Borgland Corp posted:I'd rather see the "300 but with George Washington on the Potomac" he's talked about It ain't accurate, but it'll blow your fuckin' mind.
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May 31, 2018 13:21
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Blockhouse posted:I don't know you can convince me that a director's work is a rejection of objectivism and a celebration of collectivism when his next movie is based on a book by the creator of objectivism about how much collectivism sucks I'd start with looking at Snyders actual work, which I'd say speaks for itself. But more to the point, adapting a book to subvert the themes of the original work is not exactly unheard of. Starship troopers did this expertly, and I'd personally argue Snyders 300 did this as well, although I will admit that the latter might be a more controversial statement.
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May 31, 2018 14:27
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Well, regardless, if he adapts it and plays it completely straight I'm sure the many discussions of it will be very funny.
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May 31, 2018 15:25
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Wheat Loaf posted:Well, regardless, if he adapts it and plays it completely straight I'm sure the many discussions of it will be very tedious. Fixed it for me
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May 31, 2018 16:21
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McCloud posted:With all due respect, this is rubbish. As has been said many times before, every instance of Superman acting in the greater good is followed by him being punished or filled with regret for doing it, while his mom tells him to act only when and if he feels like it, and his ghost dad reiterates that trying to be a hero is naive at best. The only time he acts immediately and without second guessing himself is when Lois is in danger. There is simply never a point where it is shown definitively that Superman believes, without a doubt, that it is best for him to intervene for the greater good. Your read of Superman only works if you assume he is the same or similar character as depicted in the comics and previous adaptations, which would be fair if you and others didn't brush aside criticisms of Batman's characterization by saying only the film's depiction should be considered.
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May 31, 2018 16:25
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I think you're misunderstanding the point of the talks Clark has with his mom and dad in BvS, but I doubt anything I say would convince you.
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May 31, 2018 16:32
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MacheteZombie posted:I think you're misunderstanding the point of the talks Clark has with his mom and dad in BvS, but I doubt anything I say would convince you. If there was payoff for that talk where Superman embraces being a hero despite the social obstacles, I'd be more open to other interpretations of that scene. That's the problem with that character; his arc is barely explored, and then cut short by a death that doesn't really integrate into said arc.
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May 31, 2018 16:53
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glitchwraith posted:As has been said many times before, every instance of Superman acting in the greater good is followed by him being punished or filled with regret for doing it, while his mom tells him to act only when and if he feels like it, and his ghost dad reiterates that trying to be a hero is naive at best. The only time he acts immediately and without second guessing himself is when Lois is in danger. There is simply never a point where it is shown definitively that Superman believes, without a doubt, that it is best for him to intervene for the greater good. Your read of Superman only works if you assume he is the same or similar character as depicted in the comics and previous adaptations, which would be fair if you and others didn't brush aside criticisms of Batman's characterization by saying only the film's depiction should be considered.
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May 31, 2018 16:54
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Wheat Loaf posted:The last word on the subject: This reminds me of Cinema Sins making a video about how BvS was going to bury Civil War. Poor guy.
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May 31, 2018 17:11
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:I honestly don't see why the studio would fund it unless he has a really good contract. I'm not sure why they let him keep going on after BvS under performed, a more competent director (with a better script, to be fair) would have probably made loads more money. But for some reason directors like him and M. Night make one good/heavily meme'd film, and they get like the next decade of just straight making GBS threads the bed before someone is like "whoa, whoa, whoa, we could make more money if the films stop sucking."
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May 31, 2018 17:20
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SonicRulez posted:This reminds me of Cinema Sins making a video about how BvS was going to bury Civil War. Poor guy. That's Kelly, he's the Onion's political cartoonist
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May 31, 2018 17:20
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If only everyone else could make bland, forgettable movies that make billions like Marvel.
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May 31, 2018 17:25
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Infinity War, a bland and forgettable movie.
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May 31, 2018 17:37
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If only everyone else could make boring troll posts like you
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May 31, 2018 17:38
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Vintersorg posted:If only everyone else could make bland, forgettable movies that make billions like Marvel. *slowly turns baseball cap backwards* These posts are WAY past cool
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May 31, 2018 17:56
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Man of Steel gets poo poo on for being "SO BAD" yet is still discussed to this day about it's themes and what things meant. Can you say the same for poo poo like Avengers 2? Captain America 2? No. They are bland popcorn flicks meant as advertisements for the next series. Sadly WB tried copying this and hosed up 2 movies.
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May 31, 2018 18:03
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Out of all the examples, you tried to use Captain America 2? Make your trolling attempts a little more believable or get the gently caress out.
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May 31, 2018 18:19
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MOS gets discussed to this day because it's a very divisive film and a handful of people can't help but crawl out of the woodwork to argue anytime it gets brought up. Outside of the SA bubble no one gives a poo poo about MOS. Winter Solider doesn't get talked about as much because it's a popular movie that people really enjoyed and brought Captain America into the mainstream.
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May 31, 2018 18:23
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and in what kind of fantasy land would a government organization staffed by racial supremacists systematically target and remove undesirables from the nation?
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May 31, 2018 18:31
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Open Marriage Night posted:Out of all the examples, you tried to use Captain America 2? Why would your brain go to trolling when you encounter people who disagree with you? Is it so unbelievable? I've said my piece though after hearing MoS is barred from discussion here.
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May 31, 2018 18:34
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Vintersorg posted:Man of Steel gets poo poo on for being "SO BAD" yet is still discussed to this day about it's themes and what things meant. Man of Steel is generally regarded as okay. It has a positive RT score, did okay financially, and helped start the DCEU. There's a certain segment of Superman comic fans that really hate it, but it's not an overwhelming opinion. BvS is the one that is "SO BAD" to most people.
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May 31, 2018 18:39
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i know bvs is a bad movie, but i still enjoy it and have watched it like five times. i just love me some dark knight returns poo poo. now justice league, there's some real garbage.
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May 31, 2018 19:25
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Anora posted:I'm not sure why they let him keep going on after BvS under performed, a more competent director (with a better script, to be fair) would have probably made loads more money. Zack Snyder had some kind of big five movie plan and the producers weren't as heavily involved as Keven Feige is with the marvel movies. To be honest looking back it seems like they were asleep at the wheel. Ultimately the biggest problem with Batman V Superman is that it just doubles down on the things everyone didn't like in Man of Steel, namely the darker and more violent tone of second half. The big thing problem people have about Man of Steel is that it ends with Superman violently snapping Zods neck. I imagine that that didn't do very well with test audiences given how everyone else responded to that. As for Batman V Superman, the biggest problem is that it doubles down on that and other stuff that didn't do well with audiences with the last film, namely the darker more violent tone. Also judging by Zack Snyder's social media postings in recent weeks it seems more like he spent far more time dicking around and trying to fill the film with as many Easter eggs, foreshadowing of future movies, and symbolism rather than focusing on making a film with a forward moving narrative. The producers not only stayed hands off do this but also bragged about doing this too.
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May 31, 2018 19:57
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What I heard was that he wanted to do Man of Steel 2, then Batman v Superman, but WB wanted Batman in because MoS hadn't been as successful as they wanted it to be whereas Dark Knight Rises made a billion dollars.
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May 31, 2018 20:32
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Vintersorg posted:If only everyone else could make bland, forgettable movies that make billions like Marvel. The only part of this the DCEU doesn't also do is make billions. I have seen them all so I'm an expert. Yeah even Justice League.
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May 31, 2018 20:49
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I never thought I'd see the day were Captain America and Thor get applause for just showing up in a movie while Batman and Superman can barely put butts in seats. What a time to be alive.
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May 31, 2018 21:19
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May 31, 2018 21:19
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JT Smiley posted:I never thought I'd see the day were Captain America and Thor get applause for just showing up in a movie while Batman and Superman can barely put butts in seats. What a time to be alive.
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May 31, 2018 21:28
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FlamingLiberal posted:Black Panther made more money than JL Doctor Strange made more money than Justice League.
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May 31, 2018 21:29
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FlamingLiberal posted:Black Panther made more money than JL Clearly because it was so forgettable people just kept going to see it over and over again.
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May 31, 2018 21:32
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i like this notion that winter soldier, a movie that is extremely clear about its anti-surveillance, anti-militarization stance and both their connections to fascism, and is widely regarded as one of, if not the best marvel movie actually does not have any message to discuss nor is it popular extremely low tier cd troll poo poo, get some new material site fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Jun 1, 2018 |
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May 31, 2018 21:39
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The MCU films come out at a frequent enough pace that you find yourself discussing the newer ones more and the older ones less.
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May 31, 2018 21:42
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JT Smiley posted:I never thought I'd see the day were Captain America and Thor get applause for just showing up in a movie while Batman and Superman can barely put butts in seats. What a time to be alive. Maybe Batman and Superman should start a club with Han Solo. 
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May 31, 2018 21:45
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Rhyno posted:The MCU films come out at a frequent enough pace that you find yourself discussing the newer ones more and the older ones less. That’s fine. MCU movies are good afternoon watches every once in a while.
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May 31, 2018 21:49
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Lay off Star Lord says Chris Pratt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U7iREXFyKw
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May 31, 2018 21:50
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I liked Wonder Woman
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May 31, 2018 21:56
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Endless Mike posted:I liked Wonder Woman The first 1/3 was okay, the middle 1/3 was good, but the last 1/3 was bad. That is my mathematically objective take on Wonder Woman.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Maybe Batman and Superman should start a club with Han Solo. Yeah but I liked Solo. (Technically I "liked" BvS but agree with the majority of it's criticisms) Endless Mike posted:I liked Wonder Woman I don't agree with most people's criticism of Wonder Woman, I really liked it. Sgt. Politeness fucked around with this message at 22:19 on May 31, 2018 |
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