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Redvenom
Jun 17, 2003
I also owe BunnyX :10Bux:

algebra testes posted:

It's tough the Isle of Man intersects closely between "Adults should be free within reason to do what they want" and also "maybe Superbikes are too quick for the IOM now."

But, the Daytona 200 died when they went to 750s or whatever so maybe it's best to keep with them


Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

Sidecars are limited to 600cc at IoM, I dunno why solo bikes are somehow less dangerous at 1000.

The thing is that the lap record for 600's is only ~45 seconds a lap (6mph average speed) slower than the 1000's so really it's bugger all. What matters is when things go wrong you have no margin for error, same as pretty much all of the road race series. Crash in the wrong place and you're in big trouble regardless of what you're riding.


nsaP posted:

ITV doesn't have the usual gang doing the TT this year and it's dry as gently caress, I nearly fell asleep. Cam Donald and Matt Roberts are alright but they have some woman I don't know doing Craig Doyle's old job and she sounds like she's doing an audition to narrate an audiobook about the sleeping habits of sloths. The TT is fueled by Monster they need to give her a couple of em

"Some woman" is Jodie Kidd, well known petrol head and presenter of various car related TV shows, so probably wasn't an outright bad choice. Agree though that the coverage is dull and if they plugged the sponsor any further the whole thing would sound like an infomercial. They could do with someone like Whittam who commentates BSB who is much more lively on camera.

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nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?

Redvenom posted:

"Some woman" is Jodie Kidd, well known petrol head and presenter of various car related TV shows, so probably wasn't an outright bad choice.

This sentence directly contradicts itself.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
Jorge Lorenzo Ducati Race Winner

Skreemer
Jan 28, 2006
I like blue.
Marquez has been making front end tuck saves and miracles commonplace, one finally bit him hard enough he couldn't save it. He finished the race but came in 16th and no points. Podium Lorenzo, Dovi, then Rossi, Iannone came in 4th.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

nsaP posted:

Jorge Lorenzo Ducati Race Winner

Lorenzo planting his flag in front of the Ducati stands and then just a smattering of applause is killing me.

I hope Lorenzo is back. Marquez is a lovely villain.

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari
Just finished watching the race. When Dovi got into 2nd I figured he won because Lorenzo always fades/crashes. But no he kept going. The gap kept getting bigger. Surely he's gonna crash at any moment now?

No... no he did not. Holy loving poo poo LORENZO WON A DUCATI!!!!

Not even Rossi managed that! Holy gently caress!

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari

nsaP posted:

Jorge Lorenzo Ducati Race Winner

Lorenzo

Ducati

Race

Winner

(in Italy no less!!!)

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari
lmao lorenzo won a loving DUCATI

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Also yay at Suzuki being thereabouts l.

Im not quite old enough to remember them winning races on the reg but old enough to remember them being at least somewhat in the ball park

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari

algebra testes posted:

Also yay at Suzuki being thereabouts l.

Im not quite old enough to remember them winning races on the reg but old enough to remember them being at least somewhat in the ball park

Somewhere, Chris Vermeulen's massive loving cheek mole sprouted another hair.

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari
god loving drat it actually ahppened lmao

https://twitter.com/MotoGP/status/1003258460937416704

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Surely that's enough to secure his job. Petrucci and miller didn't exactly shine.

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari

Slavvy posted:

Surely that's enough to secure his job. Petrucci and miller didn't exactly shine.

He's leaving Ducati. He already said it's not going to chance anything and the BT Sport commentators were saying it's practically an open secret in the paddock that Lorenzo has signed a 2 year deal with another team. They're going to announce it at the next race in Catalunya.

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari
Oh, and he also went on a rant about how if he had all the parts that he does now from the very beginning it would be a completely different story. But Ducati didn't accomodate him completely until now so this win sin't going to change anything et.c etc.


Now watch him crash out in every subsequent race.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Whats Smart Money? Satellite Honda?

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari
Persistent rumours have been a factory-backed Yamaha satellite

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

First rule of contract season: never listen to the riders. Nsap taught me that one.

Second rule of contract season: contracts are just bits of paper, ask sam lowes.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
Remember when Williams F1 had 4 starting drivers with contracts?

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari

nsaP posted:

Remember when Williams F1 had 4 starting drivers with contracts?

Are you thinking of Caterham or Sauber?

Cause with Williams I remember more the entire Jenson Button shitshow with Williams/Honda and the lawyers.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Ya that was definitely Sauber.

I think one of two things have happened. Either he hasn't signed with any factory or has a satellite bike deal, in which case he'll likely break contract and continue with Ducati, or he has a deal with Honda and things get extremely interesting.

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari
Let's go full kimchi curry infused rear end in a top hat blasting spicy take: Rossi retires at the end of the season, announces his VR46 team making the step up to MotoGP and Lorenzo is his lead rider.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
And Our Giedo sued Malevolent Monisha for breaking his contract and won

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
Oh yeah I confused my teams with token female figureheads

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?

Wirth1000 posted:

Let's go full kimchi curry infused rear end in a top hat blasting spicy take: Rossi retires at the end of the season, announces his VR46 team making the step up to MotoGP and Lorenzo is his lead rider.

I’d be the first guy in the ER for an erection lasting longer than four hours who isn’t on viagra.

Fanelien
Nov 23, 2003

nsaP posted:

I’d be the first guy in the ER for an erection lasting longer than four hours who isn’t on viagra.

https://www.bikeme.tv/index.php/tea...si-now-boss-of/

It's comedy but could be true. Also Boris is hilarious when he's not doing seriousbiker.

So the next thing to look forward to is the senior TT.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.
Oh boy...

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/lorenzo-two-year-deal-honda-pedrosa-1044691/


algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
drat.

That will be interesting.

Petrucci to factory ride?

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Would hope that Ducati goes for Miller, he seems like the better option.

Honda is gonna be an absolute force next year.

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari
Marquez and Lorenzo are going to implode like crazy lmao

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar
Gonna be funny if Lorenzo has finally cracked the Ducati code, then moves to another bike that requires a different riding style.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

That is absolutely hilarious. He's gonna crash and burn.

He's going from a tricky bike with a factory that didn't really listen to him to an absolutely impossible bike with a factory that thinks of riders as interchangeable components. He's completely hosed.

Hopefully pedrosa doesn't retire, that would be really sad as I'm sure he'd be devastating on a different machine.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

1500quidporsche posted:

Would hope that Ducati goes for Miller, he seems like the better option.

Honda is gonna be an absolute force next year.

Ducati has in Petrucci’s contract that they can bring him up to the factory if they want so presumably that’s where they’ve been leaning. He’s done well enough to deserve it IMO.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
I also thought Pedrosa was a honda lifer even if he has been slightly underwhelming his whole career

BitcoinRockefeller
May 11, 2003

God gave me my money.

Hair Elf

Slavvy posted:

That is absolutely hilarious. He's gonna crash and burn.

He's going from a tricky bike with a factory that didn't really listen to him to an absolutely impossible bike with a factory that thinks of riders as interchangeable components. He's completely hosed.

Hopefully pedrosa doesn't retire, that would be really sad as I'm sure he'd be devastating on a different machine.

100% agree, he's not going to get anywhere close to Marquez and his brain is going to implode.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?

Slavvy posted:

That is absolutely hilarious. He's gonna crash and burn.

He's going from a tricky bike with a factory that didn't really listen to him to an absolutely impossible bike with a factory that thinks of riders as interchangeable components. He's completely hosed.

Hopefully pedrosa doesn't retire, that would be really sad as I'm sure he'd be devastating on a different machine.

Put Pedro on a Old Yamaha.

My Lorenzo Honda erection is rock hard but unfortunately it’s not for the safe preachers daughter, it’s for the drama filled nutty chick. It doesn’t seem like the right fit for him.

For JLos career I am not optimistic.

For entertainment value I think we may peak

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari
Petrucci confirmed for Ducati: https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/petrucci-replace-lorenzo-factory-ducati-team-1044320/

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar

Slavvy posted:

That is absolutely hilarious. He's gonna crash and burn.

He's going from a tricky bike with a factory that didn't really listen to him to an absolutely impossible bike with a factory that thinks of riders as interchangeable components. He's completely hosed.

Hopefully pedrosa doesn't retire, that would be really sad as I'm sure he'd be devastating on a different machine.

Lorenzo just won a race off the front by 5 seconds. This practically never happens in motogp anymore, and to contend that he won't be able to adapt to a Honda is absurd. It will be very interesting to see how Lorenzo does on the Ducati the rest of the season, I think there is a good chance they will both regret that he is moving on...

Honda historically has been willing to throw massive amounts of $$$ at development. I remember reading in the past that they had something like 3-4 frame designs that they would test in single weekends. Honda apparently got their motor wrong last year, but that doesn't mean they don't listen to their riders. They just couldn't fix it because of development freezes. Honda does like to gently caress up their designs from time to time, but look at Yamaha recently, they can't seem to do anything right. I would say that Honda is historically known for prioritizing making an amazing motor, and not worry as much about the rest of the bike, but that's really more of a philosophy as anything.

It'll be interesting to see how the Honda garage operates. I don't think Marquez gives a gently caress, and I think Jorge will be a bit of a whiner anywhere. I do think that Jorge's input for development will be good. Clearly Marc can just ride around issues, which isn't great for development. I am under the impression that Crutchlow is doing a fair bit of the development heavy lifting.

I think it's great that Petrucci made it to the factory, I'm not sure he will do much better than how he is now. Dude came up through a totally weird route and clearly a hard working and talented rider.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Dude. Look at Rabat and especially miller's results after switching from Honda to Ducati. Then look at how long it took George to adapt to a Ducati. Literally nothing that's happened in the past two years indicates it'll go well for him.

E: and while we're here there's Marquez in an F1 car

quote:

Laptimes were not released officially, but Motorsport.com understands Marquez gradually worked his way down to 1m14.9s best, and was earlier on for a lap six tenths quicker before spinning at the final corner.

Marquez's best lap was more than 10s slower than Valtteri Bottas's pole time for last year's Austrian GP, but Marquez drove a 2012 'show' car on hard Pirelli demonstration tyres with no DRS, using a V8 engine with no KERS.

He lapped just over six seconds slower than Felipe Massa's pole time for the 2014 grand prix at this circuit.

which seems like he's reasonably quick but I know nothing about F1

Slavvy fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Jun 6, 2018

hayden.
Sep 11, 2007

here's a goat on a pig or something
You guys are ridiculous thinking JLo isn't going to do well on the Honda. He may not win a championship over MM but I'd eat a hat if he wasn't top 4 by the end of 2019. He's done it literally every year of his MotoGP career prior to Ducati.

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Skreemer
Jan 28, 2006
I like blue.
With MM having to pull off at least one minor miracle per GP having to pull up a lost front end with an elbow or knee, Jorge won't stand for that. He'll do well eventually, but I think it'll take at least a year of suffering to get through it.

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