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MMM Whatchya Say posted:I've heard people say positive things about Wynne herself, but generally not her government as a whole. I'm a progressive who likes a lot of what Wynne has done, almost everything except for the various privatizations. e: Her anti-union campaigning during this election has been awful though. I sat through a 20 minute presser on CP24 this morning about LONG NDP STRIKES! at the gym.
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Reince Penis posted:I'm a progressive who likes a lot of what Wynne has done, almost everything except for the various privatizations. I mean I can point to specific things I like, but her government as a whole has way too much in the way of conservative economic policy for me to reflect positively on.
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:I mean I can point to specific things I like, but her government as a whole has way too much in the way of conservative economic policy for me to reflect positively on. Yeah I'm going to defend her whole administration but I'll just say she's been vilified unfairly for half a decade in this province and she refused to budge when the social conservatives trained their sights on her over sex ed (and let's be honest, her sexuality). She's not perfect but I think she's been a capable administrator of the province.
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Personally she seems fine to me, I've never had a problem with her personally. I don't like the administration and I think I never really will having been personally affected by the privatization of some industries. Her sex ed policy was good and sorely overdue and the minwage increases were decent too, but I can't overlook the economic stuff.
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ARACHTION posted:This has been the single most entertaining provincial election that has occurred outside of my province. For anyone who has both a BC and Ontario perspective, who is more hated? Christy Clark or Kathleen Wynne? Wynne wishes she was only as unpopular as Christy Clark, even at the height of Clark's unpopularity. Wynne's approval numbers are impressively bad.  That is impressive compared to Wynne, especially considering Clark presided over one of the most openly and shamelessly corrupt provincial governments maybe ever? Wynne seems to only be run-of-the-mill Liberal corrupt.
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Yeah, Clark was way more of a shameless loving liar than Wynne, oh well
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I’m still baffled at the “ok, we’re going to lose, but that means you should vote for us” announcement.
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Jun 4, 2018 19:33
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"Support your good local candidates" You first.
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Not gonna lie. I’m feeling extremely anxious about Election Day. My gut instinct tells me there’s more people with PC as their second choice than NDP among former liberal voters. No matter how many seats the NDP gain I fear it won’t be enough to stop a Ford majority. He seems relaxed and ready to win this.
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The chances for the NDP aren't good. A minority government would see the libs siding with the cons in a second, while a PC majority is still a real threat. Our voting system is super bad. I hope BC's referendum goes through. I just want to be able to vote communist and actually one day get a single joke-candidate communist MLA sitting in the legislature because like 5% of us in the province did.
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Baronjutter posted:The chances for the NDP aren't good. A minority government would see the libs siding with the cons in a second, while a PC majority is still a real threat. Our voting system is super bad. You know what else is super bad? Believing in polls. 
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Jun 4, 2018 20:40
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Reminder that CBC's seat projections are worthless and Eric Grenier is a hack fraud
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Literally every person I've spoken to about the election in the last week believes the Conservatives are going to win because the OPC has "more efficient vote distribution." Which I assume is something being said on all the TVs? I don't know I avoid that pundit bullshit like the plague. It certainly isn't based in any real scientific type polling data.
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Efficient vote distribution is the strategic voting of Ontario 2018, is what I'm saying. It's voter suppression.
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Jun 4, 2018 20:59
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Are there any decent riding-specific polls at all? I'm hearing I live in one of the few ridings where it's Lib-PC. (Eglinton-Lawrence)
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Reince Penis posted:Efficient vote distribution is the strategic voting of Ontario 2018, is what I'm saying. Laurier has their own little algorithm too, has the libs at 5 seats. http://lispop.ca/seat-projection/provincial They had a nice little post leaning towards premier horwath, http://lispop.ca/nexus/2018/06/04/may-be-counter-intuitive-would-you-believe-premier-horwath quote:“Looking at this another way, among current Liberal supporters, almost eight in ten would prefer an NDP win over a PC win. And this holds across the province from as high as 90 per cent of Liberals in eastern Ontario to 74 per cent for those living in the GTHA.” It's gonna be a good one, I'm going to drink at least 4 beers thursday night.
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Azerban posted:Are there any decent riding-specific polls at all? I'm hearing I live in one of the few ridings where it's Lib-PC. (Eglinton-Lawrence) To my knowledge, no. There are people taking past polling data and applying general shifts in province-wide or regional polls to make guesses. In the past those guesses could be called 'educated' because the voter model stayed mostly the same (i.e. PC + Liberal polling 32-38% each, NDP around 20-25%) but because the Liberals have collapsed and the NDP has surged I would argue those models are even less reliable than usual.
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Azerban posted:Are there any decent riding-specific polls at all? I'm hearing I live in one of the few ridings where it's Lib-PC. (Eglinton-Lawrence) The campaigns themselves (or the bigger ones anyway) will do internal riding level polls, but they're never publicized.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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https://twitter.com/abernatt/status/1003744619383812096 BAH GAWD JR THAT'S RENATA FORDS MUSIC
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RBC posted:the election will be a toss up nobody knows whats going to happen Liberal sweep
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RBC posted:the election will be a toss up nobody knows whats going to happen *image of Jeb! standing in front of map of Ontario provincial electoral ridings*
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Reince Penis posted:https://twitter.com/abernatt/status/1003744619383812096 lol doug and randy ran their stupid label company into the ground
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RBC posted:lol doug and randy ran their stupid label company into the ground https://twitter.com/goldsbie/status/1003747407807549443 lmao Doug must have tried so hard to keep this from getting filed, I cannot even imagine e: also, I wonder if being sued by Rob's widow will hurt Doug's standing with the Rob fans Zeeman fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Jun 4, 2018 |
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Reince Penis posted:https://twitter.com/abernatt/status/1003744619383812096 
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Jun 4, 2018 22:28
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wrap it up fordailures
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Don't worry friend, I'd say there's a 50/50 chance you'll spend the next 4 years eating as much popcorn as you want.
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RBC posted:the election will be a toss up nobody knows whats going to happen Ban polling.
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Reince Penis posted:https://twitter.com/abernatt/status/1003744619383812096 Can't wait for the Liberal brain trust to announce Wynne is back in the race.
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Zeeman posted:e: also, I wonder if being sued by Rob's widow will hurt Doug's standing with the Rob fans it's okay he still has all the people who are actually in it for doug
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DynamicSloth posted:Can't wait for the Liberal brain trust to announce Wynne is back in the race. Nah, we'll keep going with the union thing https://twitter.com/OntLiberal/status/1003756695116550144 e; it was a two banger https://twitter.com/OntLiberal/status/1003757383947079680
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Ford on Ford violence
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Count Roland posted:Ban polling. We don't need to ban polls, just get CBC to fire the dishonest hack fraud Eric Grenier
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This election is the best. https://twitter.com/trilliumpartyon/status/1003635432075100160?s=21
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A Typical Goon posted:This election is the best. This is actually amazing.
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Aside from the obvious question of whether that constitutes support for Venezuela's policies, I wonder if Venezuela's leadership has changed significantly since 2006? Nah, probably not 
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