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Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
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John Smith posted:

No evidence, but I figure it is probably unhealthy and therefore inefficient? I assume that some of my haters like Weatherman are probably terrified of having their worldview changed. That level of fear just seems really unhealthy.

I mean, I understand the liberal perspective, I just don't agree with it. Some people apparently literally cannot understand opposing perspectives. Must be scary to live in a world where there are so many villains, rather than fellow citizens who simply don't agree with you.
People understand your worldview they just find it reprehensible.

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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



John Smith posted:

Hmm. Sort of awkward though.

If you don't know the differences between Vegas and AC rules, let alone Monte Carlo or Macao, don't you even try to come in here and lecture us about earning in a casino. Recycled pap from a movie isn't going to take you anywhere these days.

Rudager
Apr 29, 2008

Krotera posted:

oh yeah, content! here is one of my favorite videos ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIK8FoHU0Z8 (the first thirty minutes contain most of the content)

summary: a self-taught mathematician explains how to make a lot of money at blackjack, then plays himself at blackjack and fails to make any money. i really hope anyone with a half hour to spare and elementary probability knowledge will blow it on this video.

I got to 14 minutes and he starts going on about odds, instead of actually working it out "well it's like what? 1 in 10?", yep that's what a mathematician would do.

Trustworthy
Dec 28, 2004

with catte-like thread
upon our prey we steal
Whenever I hear someone talking about hot gambling strats, my brain hears it as "This one isn't some dumpy pyramid scheme, this is 100% LEGIT Multi Level Marketing!"

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

Phanatic posted:

Oh, poo poo, have we discussed penny auctions yet?

These are loving amazing. Okay, it's like ebay, but the way the auction works is that you have to *pay the auction site money* to place a bid, and each bid increases the price of the item.

Like, the site auctions a $1000 laptop at a starting price of $1, and each bit raises the price of the item by a penny *and* extends the duration of the auction by some interval. To bid, you need to pay a dime to the auction site, just to place the bid. So you pay a dime and bid $1, because getting a $1000 laptop for a payout of $1.10 is an amazing bargain. The price of the item is now $1.01. If someone wants to bid $1.01, they need to pay a dime. But it's a $1000 laptop, bidding $1.02 plus twenty cents for your two bids is still an amazing deal, so you then pay another dime to bid again. Repeat until the $1000 laptop sells for a few hundred bucks but everyone has paid a bunch of money to the auctioneer just to place their bids and all the losing bidders collectively paid well more than $1000 and wind up with nothing.

It's *brilliant*.

I never knew how those worked (never really cared) but holy poo poo that's brilliant.

Spring Heeled Jack
Feb 25, 2007

If you can read this you can read

CornHolio posted:

I never knew how those worked (never really cared) but holy poo poo that's brilliant.

I've been seeing a lot of commercials lately on Hulu (or some other streaming service) for DealDash, which seems to be the same thing.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Card counting is extremely GWM, because you will definitely get caught and banned from casinos, and probably pre-emptively banned from other ones, so you'll just have that one dumb loss and not an entire life of pouring your money down the drain chasing your gambling strategy.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
My uncle used to be regular BWM, but now I think he might be legitimately mentally unstable from pain pills and injuries.

He financed some huge air filtration system for his house a year or two ago that was "strong enough to filter out chemtrails" and within 5 months was begging family for money to keep his payments up.

He spends close to $2k a month on a mail subscription service for MREs and long-lasting disaster prep food.

I think I have posted about him before, but now he seems to be crazy in an actionable way instead of just BWM/paranoid and someone is probably going to have to do something about it.

He is apparently trying to organize his entire neighborhood and family members to all cancel their power bills at once. He is sending these massive email screeds to everyone, and printing out pages and pages of the same stuff to leave on everyone's doorstep in his neighborhood, about how paying for energy is all a big conspiracy. That there are ley-lines aligned under the Egyptian pyramids that have been harnessed for unlimited free energy for centuries and the only reason we pay for energy is because we have "made our bed" with fossil fuels and it would be too disruptive to our economy to make the leylines available to the general public.

He says that he has cancelled his electricity service and is using a generator for his giant chest freezers until the company gives in and activates the ley-lines. He seems to think that since hardly anyone has told him no, (I imagine they are all ignoring him) that they must all be joining him.

The worst part is that my aunt doesn't seem to believe in this, but is "open to seeing how it goes" and letting him do it. She is also crazy, but in a slightly different way. She is suing her former employer (a local school district) because her health insurance doesn't cover her naturopath who uses crystal healing for her migraines.

My cousin is also completely into this stuff and "helping" my Uncle get set up, which is the one thing that makes me think it might not just be my uncle going senile.

Here is part (yes, this is just a part) of the email he just sent to everyone in the family:

He also included a billion links to websites and youtube videos, instructions for all of us on how to cancel our bills, how to let the companies know that we are cancelling service because of the ley-lines, and how to harness the energy when the power companies give in.

quote:

Visible light, ie. everything we can visually apprehend in this dimension, comprises a mere 20% of the electromagnetic spectrum. Therefore 80% of our reality consists of unseen forces. Freaky! So then, drawing from the foregoing analogies, it is safe to say that the exact same principles thereof apply to the existence and the nature of Leylines. It’s all a case of subtle energy. We as humans have been designed with Energy Meridians coursing through our collective organisms. The existence of Energy Meridians is verifiable: it is the foundation of Chinese Medicine, an ancient art-science far more advanced and sophisticated than modern Western medicine. Since we have Energy Meridians, so, too, does Mother Earth. The Leylines are Mother Earth’s Energy Meridians.

Now, Leylines are not straight ‘lines’ per se. The Orientals described them as ‘currents’, which is more qualitatively accurate (the Western mindset prefers rigid, Pythagorean representations of inherently wiggly, frisky things for some reason — all to do with latticing free Nature into a control grid). On remotely viewing a Leyline, its appearance is a wispy, swirly spiral (not unlike a Serpent) infused with complexly beautiful colours. Leylines also have their unique characteristics. In the case of the four Leylines of St Michael’s Mount (the Greco-Christian Masculine-Feminine coalition of the Apollo, the Michael, and the Athena and the Mary), you could say that each ‘line’ bears a particular ‘feel’. For instance, the Mary line is renowned for its expansive ‘bandwidth’, warm, nurturing, and protective aura.

By way of analogy, I shall duly illustrate and clarify. Think of the Equator. It exists, and is symbolically represented as a line running through the centre of the earth. When you approach the equator, things get really hot. When you’re practically on the equator, you will definitely know. The Equator cannot be seen. But it can be felt, and its ‘bandwidth’ and intangible properties, so to speak, can be measured through sophisticated scientific means. Think, also, of Radiowaves. Again— unseen, intangible— but can definitely be felt, heard, and accordingly measured. Likewise, the electromagnetic spectrum in general is a great teacher.

How advanced are we as a civilization today? With all of our technology and knowledge in different sciences, are we more advanced when compared to ancient humankind? To civilizations like the Egyptians or the Sumerians?

If Ancient Civilizations did not possess advanced technology nor Ancient Power Sources, how else would you explain them lifting and transporting huge blocks of stone like The Trilithon at the Temple of Jupiter, Baalbek, Lebanon that weighs over 4.5 million pounds? Or The Western Stone in Jerusalem, Israel which weighs 1.2 million pounds and The Ramesseum statue located in Thebes, Egypt which weighs over 2 million pounds?

How could all of this be achieved without electricity? High power machines for transport? Lasers and other high-tech tools for cutting and shaping? Ancient mankind must have had Ancient Power Sources, ancient technology.

Could the Great Pyramid of Giza have been built to serve as a power plant and not a royal tomb as some researchers and archeologists suggest? What we have been a very, very precise building that has the precision of a fraction of an inch. It’s something that is very noteworthy and not indicative of a simple agrarian culture without technology and advanced knowledge. You can think of the Great Pyramid as a machine, an Ancient Power Source? But just how could the Great Pyramid have been used as a power plant? Generating energy from its core? Researchers believe clues can be found by exploring the surface underneath the Pyramid.

All over the world, we can find incredible ancient sites that challenge our very own technology today. From Ollantaytambo, Puma Punku to the Great Pyramid in Egypt, all of those sites are amazing achievements of ancient mankind, the only question is, WHO gave them the technology to complete these projects? What is funny to some people is the fact that there are archeologists that believe that all of this was achieved with slave labor and simple tools.

Leylines are the meridians of planet earth. Different leylines provide different energies to keep the chi of our planet flowing. After almost having been forgotten, and having been hi-jacked in the third dimension to create an even deeper sense of duality, they are now being rediscovered and understood by a larger population. So called gridworkers have been and still are working on re-establishing and strengthening the leyline grid around the planet, anchoring the new energies that are coming in at major grid crossings, cleaning out, releasing and transforming low frequencies and re-directing the new energy into the meridians.

There’s evidence that obelisks all over the world are tapping into this natural energy that’s part of the Earth. The concept is to take the natural energies of the Earth and manipulate them. It’s a subtle energy, but for those who have the devices and technology to see and measure this energy, it’s something that can be used. What is interesting about a major number of obelisks is that many of them are constructed out of granite a stone containing high concentrations of energy-responsive quartz crystal. Because of its crystalline structure, quartz has the ability to convert the Earth’s natural electrical vibrations into usable energy by a property known as piezoelectricity.

Crystals are literally a tool and technology that’s essential for transmitting energy, and that is taking energy in one state and essentially converting it to another state. Ancient Astronaut theorists believe that ancient cultures that erected obelisks had some understanding of the high-tech properties of quartz and that they might have used them to transmit this energy over vast distances.

Tesla talked about giant transmitters could send and receive limitless amounts of electricity, flowing like invisible water. One of the key components in his system was quartz crystal.

Tesla tried to build a system of wireless power. He built the Wardenclyffe Tower on Long Island in New York., he was going to hook this tower up to a power plant and he was going to broadcast electricity. According to him, vehicles would be able to draw power from the tower and obtain free clean energy.

But was Tesla the first to think of this type of wireless energy? Or did humanity discover this type of energy thousands of years before him? Could the Great Pyramid be equivalent to Tesla’s Wardenclyffe Tower? Transmitting free energy and providing power to vehicles and equipment?

We know today that the Great Pyramid contains significant amounts of quartz crystal, the question we ask is could the Great Pyramid together with obelisks around the world made up a global network of free energy?

The pyramids were actually geo-mechanical devices they were “attached” to Earth, and they were tuned in a way so that they would vibrate with the frequencies of the Earth and they converted the energies of the Earth into electromagnetic energy.

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Jun 7, 2018

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.
That’s flat-out schizophrenic bizarre ideation. He needs help.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Phanatic posted:

That’s flat-out schizophrenic bizarre ideation. He needs help.

We've tried.

His son and wife are pretty much 100% on board. His daughter is skeptical, but lives across the country and just thinks that they are "being hippies" like they always have.

I don't know if all three (maybe 4) of them have schizophrenia, but I doubt it.

So far, nothing has happened and he has a ton of gas for his generator.

Not a Children
Oct 9, 2012

Don't need a holster if you never stop shooting.

Yeah that's incredibly hosed up

Besides showing a complete misunderstanding of the principles of operation of scaled electricity generation

SiGmA_X
May 3, 2004
SiGmA_X

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

wiggly, frisky things
Oh, I see he met my dog!

zelah
Dec 1, 2004

Diabetes, you are not invited to my pizza party.
Too long did read. I worked in an electric company call center 10 years taking calls and answering emails and never ran into leylines, but I fully believe some company is getting this nonsense.

I’ve also been to the equator in Ecuador and it don’t feel like poo poo.

Electric company customers are bad with money when they are bad with mental health. We had a person write in a couple times about how they should get a discount on their bill because most of the electric use was from torture devices the CIA and KGB used on them at night after slipping in as literal shadows under the door frame.

Meanwhile not paying ever and racking up a thousand dollar bill in a tiny house over several years by alternating between fake energy assistance pledges, defaulted payment plans, and probable light identity theft.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

"The Orientals"


You should make sure to share this with the crazy emails thread.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

My uncle used to be regular BWM, but now I think he might be legitimately mentally unstable from pain pills and injuries.

That is weapons-grade whoo-whoop-bing-pchong-icky-icky-icky-tcky-pchang.

Get that dude some help. It seems he's sucking his feeble minded family into his vortex of mental illness.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Ashcans posted:

the crazy emails thread.
Tell me more...

SolTerrasa
Sep 2, 2011

Just imagine being the sort of person who can hear about that, and not believe it, exactly, but be curious to see where it goes.

"I don't think the Egyptians really built the pyramids using magickal energies, but if you say it'll lower our power bill... :shrug: "

Dwight Eisenhower
Jan 24, 2006

Indeed, I think that people want peace so much that one of these days governments had better get out of the way and let them have it.

Hoodwinker posted:

Holy poo poo this is so amazingly bad. I love it.

If anybody watches and is curious as to how to debunk this dumb poo poo right away: the notion of giving the dealer "only one chance to win" completely ignores the probabilities of each card showing up. In a scenario where you have 13 (and under this guy's system so you're not taking another card), and the dealer has 12, you have given the dealer a 9/13 chance to draw any card and beat you. You haven't reduced your chances of losing at all. The dealer will statistically win this outcome. Meanwhile, by taking a card, you have a 8/13 chance of increasing your hand and reducing the likelihood proportionally that the dealer can beat you (draw an 8 and the dealer's odds go from 9/13 to 1/13), at a cost of a 5/13 chance that you bust.

This guy's "amazing system" completely ignores the interactions between the probabilities associated with the mechanics of the game. Somebody let me know if I hosed that up. I have a feeling that if you laid out the various initial draws for the dealer/player on a computational table, set this guy's ruleset down, and calculated all of the possible outcomes, you'd see the player get their rear end kicked.

If you stand in your scenario you have an 8/13 chance of losing, 1/13 chance of tying, and 4/13 chance of winning.

Which still means hit and the guy's a clown, but when calculating EVs it's important to distinguish between ties and losses in blackjack :v:

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

I love the idea that an energy conspiracy that has been perpetuated for hundreds of years and is the basis for billions of dollars and thousands of jobs is going to roll over when a single neighborhood calls them out on their hoax.

It's like the sovereign citizen people that believe that the entire justice system is an elaborate trick based on legal wizardry, but the conclusion that they draw is that if you can call them out on it properly they'll just fold up and go away instead of, you know, imprisoning or murdering you to preserve their conspiracy.

Splicer posted:

Tell me more...
Mostly it's political stuff, but we get all kinds of crazy town

CellarDweller
Jan 19, 2014

Down In The Pit... There's It!

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

I think I have posted about him before, but now he seems to be crazy in an actionable way instead of just BWM/paranoid and someone is probably going to have to do something about it.

It isnt actionable. Unless he is an immediate danger to himself or someone else there really isnt anything you or anyone else can do. All you can do at this point is to try and convince him that he needs mental help.

edit:The only other thing I can think of, and even Im not sure it is worthwhile or a good idea, would be to find out if his local police department has officers specially trained to deal with mental illness and if so to give the police a call so they know to wear the kid gloves if they have to deal with him.

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:
The lefties over in the Trump thread sure have their grunders all a-twixt over this post.

https://twitter.com/dick_nixon/status/1004447441477951493

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




"don't own a car" wow great advice

very GWM

Hoodwinker
Nov 7, 2005

Fitzy Fitz posted:

"don't own a car" wow great advice

very GWM
I'm not sure if you're sarcastic but if you live in a city this is extremely possible and also very sensible.

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




Hoodwinker posted:

I'm not sure if you're sarcastic but if you live in a city this is extremely possible and also very sensible.

I live in a city and walk to work. It's great, and I love it.

People are ragging on it because it sounds like he's unaware that most people can't do that. I have no idea if that's the case though tbh

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:

Fitzy Fitz posted:

I live in a city and walk to work. It's great, and I love it.

People are ragging on it because it sounds like he's unaware that most people can't do that. I have no idea if that's the case though tbh

Can't or won't?

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

Ashcans posted:

I love the idea that an energy conspiracy that has been perpetuated for hundreds of years and is the basis for billions of dollars and thousands of jobs is going to roll over when a single neighborhood calls them out on their hoax.

It's like the sovereign citizen people that believe that the entire justice system is an elaborate trick based on legal wizardry, but the conclusion that they draw is that if you can call them out on it properly they'll just fold up and go away instead of, you know, imprisoning or murdering you to preserve their conspiracy.

Mostly it's political stuff, but we get all kinds of crazy town

thread made by vilerat, who literally actually died in benghazi and they brought out his mom, who was the subject of a solid amount of his posts in that thread, up on the stage of the republican national convention

a thing that actually happened

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:

Can't or won't?

It's a mix of both, but it's just not possible for tons of people.

I've been renting the same place for a few years, and walkability is a huge factor in my current place. But if I needed to prioritize anything else I'd have to move out of walking distance. Like if I had a kid I'd have to get a bigger place and start car commuting. I just can't afford a big enough place for a kid within walking distance of my job.

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

Fitzy Fitz posted:

It's a mix of both, but it's just not possible for tons of people.

I've been renting the same place for a few years, and walkability is a huge factor in my current place. But if I needed to prioritize anything else I'd have to move out of walking distance. Like if I had a kid I'd have to get a bigger place and start car commuting. I just can't afford a big enough place for a kid within walking distance of my job.

There aren’t enough places to live adjacent to workplaces, especially when you take wages and property values into account, and we would be playing that sliding square picture game to get everyone in the right place every time someone switched jobs.

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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Hoodwinker posted:

I'm not sure if you're sarcastic but if you live in a city this is extremely possible and also very sensible.

You know what I don't get? How does this work in 2-income households, where employers are >10 miles apart? And for that matter, do you move every time you get a new job so that you can walk to the new one? Maybe I'm just bad with money.

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Nap Ghost
Good paying jobs are often near massive industrial complexes that don’t have residential areas anywhere near them. Even if there were, they’re often not the healthiest places to raise young children. Even now, with better environmental protections, there’s still sometimes residual contamination that falls below mandatory cleanup but still can have adverse effects.

In other cases, housing near some jobs isn’t affordable to the jobs available in that area. Minimum wage work in the city isn’t going to provide enough income for a home in walking distance, so you’re looking at bus rides.

A lot of this is the consequence of city planning from the 1950s onwards that contributed to sprawl and digging up mass transit, but it’s still a choice that only certain privileged people can afford to make.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Twerk from Home posted:

You know what I don't get? How does this work in 2-income households, where employers are >10 miles apart? And for that matter, do you move every time you get a new job so that you can walk to the new one? Maybe I'm just bad with money.

Public transit is one way that it can work.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
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1 2 5 and 6 are pretty solid advice, but assuming 3 and 4 are feasible for most people shows a laughable ignorance of how the current economy actually functions.

Splicer fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jun 7, 2018

Power of Pecota
Aug 4, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:

Can't or won't?

I feel like it's heavily city-dependent - I grew up in Kansas City and I have no idea how you'd live there without a car (everything's stretched out, the bus systems were sparse and those few were absolute garbage, until a few years ago it was like the single most bicycle-unfriendly city in the US) but I'm in Chicago at the moment and absolutely love not having to gently caress around with a vehicle.

Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006

BLITHERING IDIOT AND HARDCORE DURIAN APOLOGIST. LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SHIT DON'T STINK EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT DOES BECAUSE I'M SUPER CULTURED.
That whole thing isn't general life advice, it's just "how to not gently caress up having a good-paying white collar job, in a major city, in your childless 20s." They hosed up the savings target, though.

The last one is especially fun. "Become a minimalist." There's a reason most poor people, or even people who've been through poverty, cling to stuff that "might come in handy one day." Minimalism is a good alternative to being a dumb kid with a big paycheck and an appetite for stupid toys. It's not a great survival strategy when you don't have much to begin with, but might be able to occasionally cobble something together out of the things a minimalist would throw away.

Leviathan Song
Sep 8, 2010

Twerk from Home posted:

You know what I don't get? How does this work in 2-income households, where employers are >10 miles apart? And for that matter, do you move every time you get a new job so that you can walk to the new one? Maybe I'm just bad with money.

That's the part that I don't get as well. Like I could get a job within walking distance, so could my wife. We'd have to get divorced though. Also my work is like 5 miles from the nearest grocery store. I'm not sure how that works without a car. Church? Hope you're ok with the one closest to work.

Unless you live in a dense urban area with good public transportation a car is pretty much a necessity and most of those places have housing costs worse than my house and transportation cost combined.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
.... it's legal to have two residences and still be married and love each other?

(it's also allowed to live in a place dense enough for human habitation and with the courage to actually use land, lol

america needs more soulless 50 story apartment buildings)

Mocking Bird
Aug 17, 2011

Space Gopher posted:

That whole thing isn't general life advice, it's just "how to not gently caress up having a good-paying white collar job, in a major city, in your childless 20s." They hosed up the savings target, though.

The last one is especially fun. "Become a minimalist." There's a reason most poor people, or even people who've been through poverty, cling to stuff that "might come in handy one day." Minimalism is a good alternative to being a dumb kid with a big paycheck and an appetite for stupid toys. It's not a great survival strategy when you don't have much to begin with, but might be able to occasionally cobble something together out of the things a minimalist would throw away.

That part definitely amuses me. An effect of my current financial stability has been an increase in my ability to give away things I’m not actively using, on the premise that they can be replaced without huge strife if I truly need them again.

Poor people don’t keep old couches and fridges and barely functional wreck cars because they are sloppy and lavish, it’s because the value invested in those things hurts to part with and may not be possible to replace

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

bob dobbs is dead posted:

.... it's legal to have two residences and still be married and love each other?

Then you would have to own a car in order to visit your spouse and kids in most US cities, BWM.

With Tindr now it's feasible to just find new geo-convenient spouses anytime one of you gets a new job. Or it would be if millenials weren't too lazy and entitled to arrange their marital life around employers' convenience.

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

bob dobbs is dead posted:

america needs more soulless 50 story apartment buildings
Yes, but then we wouldn't have a yard(we never use), 5 bathrooms, a dining room(we almost never use), a family room and a living room(only one of which we ever use), and two more bedrooms than people! :ohdear: Plus the apartments would 'ruin the neighborhood character'(let poor people have a place to live).


Everything about American homeownership ideals is BWM and BWL:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-the-american-dream-of-owning-a-big-home-is-way-overrated-in-one-chart-2018-05-21 posted:

A research team affiliated with UCLA studied American families and where they spend most of their time while inside their homes. The results were fascinating, but really not all that surprising. Here’s one representative example:


As you can see, most square footage is wasted as people tend to gather around the kitchen and the television, while avoiding the dining room and porch.

“The findings were not pretty. In fact, they helped prove how little we use our big homes for things other than clutter,” Adcock said. “Most families don’t use large areas of their homes — which means they’ve essentially wasted money on space they don’t need.”

And more stuff from the original study:

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/trouble-in-paradise-new-ucla-book posted:

Findings include:

* Managing the volume of possessions was such a crushing problem in many homes that it actually elevated levels of stress hormones for mothers.
* Only 25 percent of garages could be used to store cars because they were so packed with stuff.
* The rise of big-box stores such as Costco and Sam's Club has increased the tendency to stockpile food and cleaning supplies, making clutter that much harder to contain.
* The addition of costly "master suites" for parents proved the most common renovation in the homes that were studied, yet the spaces were hardly used.
* Consistent and troublesome bottlenecks emerged in the homes, yet families rarely devoted renovation dollars to remedying these obvious problems.
* Even in a region with clement year-round weather, the families hardly used their yards, and this was the case even among those who had invested in outdoor improvements and furnishings.


e: Suburbia in general is BWM, since most developments can't bring in enough tax dollars to fund their running costs. The only thing keeping them from collapsing is constant new development. But heaven forbid you suggest that fields of McMansions 20 miles from shopping and employment shouldn't be the primary form of new developments. That would be unamerican. :911:

Haifisch fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jun 7, 2018

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H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

He also included a billion links to websites and youtube videos, instructions for all of us on how to cancel our bills, how to let the companies know that we are cancelling service because of the ley-lines, and how to harness the energy when the power companies give in.

This is bullshit you didn't even include the form for me to sign up for ley line power.

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