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prom candy posted:white identity politics has been popping off for conservatives lately as well. the "free speech on campus" thing seems to have reached a lot of people. i feel like harper's "i hate muslims" play probably would have worked if he ran it in 2017 or 2018. that wasn't the battle lines this election was fought on, the election was more or less fought on unpopularity of the incumbent liberal government and memories of the bob rae government
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What makes this even worse is that this PC majority is a result of a 5% increase in their share of the popular vote from the 2014 election Hudak got 35.45%
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44% is loving shameful jesus christ It didn't seem to be that hard a decision? I don't understand at all.
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i'm self employed and mainly work for a US company and i'm super glad they have no idea we even had an election
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Let me be honest. With the exception of Andrea and maybe a few others the NDP lacked experienced candidates who could run a government. A lot of people felt like they’d be completely useless. Seriously I look at some NDP candidates and think the only thing they’d do in legislature is collect a 120k salary. All the talent joined the liberals or PCs because those were the only parties with realistic chances of being elected for the last 20 or so years. Maybe a lot of liberals will join the NDP and fatten their ranks with experienced candidates for the next election. Alternatively maybe the liberals will get some fresh blood running for office and stage a comeback. Or maybe the NDPs tenure as official opposition will train them as a govt in waiting for next time. Probably better we let ford take the fall for Wynnes mess and regroup 4 years later.
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Testikles posted:Also in fairness how do I get banned for my Toxx clause? Lowtax needs his cyber spine. If you need help with the cost comrade, my friends help is on the way
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How many months/days/hours will I have to wait before the OPC does something that screws over their voter base to which I can say "you fuckers voted them in, deal with it"?
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All I learned from the US presidential election is that "when they go low, we go high" is complete bullshit.
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Mystic_Shadow posted:All I learned from the US presidential election is that "when they go low, we go high" is complete bullshit. Yeah that's a deplorable strategy
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Kraftwerk posted:Probably better we let ford take the fall for Wynnes mess and regroup 4 years later. Nah, they'll just say it's the uncooperative NDP (minority).
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DariusLikewise posted:https://twitter.com/danicamclellan/status/1004917226514726912?s=21 Not wrong, though. Like it or not he's the Premier-elect.
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Kraftwerk posted:Let me be honest. With the exception of Andrea and maybe a few others the NDP lacked experienced candidates who could run a government. A lot of people felt like they’d be completely useless. yeah let's face it ndp got it's slate of 905 candidates back in oct when they thought they have no chance and they did NOT vet them at all
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infernal machines posted:As someone who has been familiar with the Fords and their history in office for more than eight years, you are an absolute goddamn moron. Is this USPol or is all of D&D just done in this style?
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I've been working with GE Healthcare and a few weeks ago there was a company wide conference call. One of the VPs was talking about the election and you could hear the utter disdain and disgust when he said it's looking like a Conservative majority, lol
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Kale posted:Is this USPol or is all of D&D just done in this style? 
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Kale posted:Is this USPol or is all of D&D just done in this style? You forgot the D&D part where after another few days of heated name calling, retorts and counter-retorts, everyone does a ceasefire to compare their anti-depressants prescriptions before resuming hostilities/Premier Doug Ford.
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Jun 8, 2018 04:59
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The NDP running people who jumped ship from the libs isn't going to loving convince people to vote NDP. Better off grabbing people from unions, solidarity milieus and all that poo poo that might not necessarily be the best but is still probably a better signal than the same crop of lawyers who already ruined the province to line the pockets of their bay street buddies.
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I worked at a polling place in Kitchener Centre today. gently caress those printers, they suck. Also, I really want to get some legal weed now because gently caress this stupid rear end province.
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Did that #MeToo girl who got Patrick Brown kicked out make any statement yet on how she feels about personally delivering us a Doug Ford majority?
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Did that #MeToo girl who got Patrick Brown kicked out make any statement yet on how she feels about personally delivering us a Doug Ford majority? believe the victim.
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Typo posted:yeah let's face it ndp got it's slate of 905 candidates back in oct when they thought they have no chance and they did NOT vet them at all Unlike the well vetted PC candidates?
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“Ontario is open for business” As if Toronto isn’t like one of the most major cities in North America
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Vintersorg posted:“Ontario is open for business” Public property fire sale. Everything must go.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Did that #MeToo girl who got Patrick Brown kicked out make any statement yet on how she feels about personally delivering us a Doug Ford majority?
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I believe that if Jason Kenney and the PAQ win as expected and Scheer is our next Prime Minister the Conservatives control enough of Canada to amend the constitution with no opposition
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Did that #MeToo girl who got Patrick Brown kicked out make any statement yet on how she feels about personally delivering us a Doug Ford majority? Lol seriously?? Kathleen Wynne with her "I'm gonna step down to help out the party 5 days before the election" did much more damage than that.
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flakeloaf posted:Not wrong, though. Like it or not he's the Premier-elect. Yes and you should definitely respect Doug Ford for all of the great things he has done like
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There's no point in the NDP going high because media is going to pretend the party goes low at the slightest thing.
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I just got home from working on one of the election broadcasts and I'm not nearly as upset about Ford winning as I thought I would be. I think our province is facing some serious economic headwinds and I can't wait to see Doug try to wrap his shallow slogans around real, actual problems. Though I will predict he's will remain very Trumpish with his approach to media and keep doing his own YouTube poo poo / Ontario Proud direct messaging which will insulate him from actual criticism and scrutiny.
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Dukemont posted:we desperately need PR Missed the boat for MMP in 2007, but yes FPTP is loving idiotic and has no place at any level of a modern democracy
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Like, NatPo would call Horwath a sore loser if she wasn't curtsying at the right angle anyway.
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dev286 posted:I just got home from working on one of the election broadcasts and I'm not nearly as upset about Ford winning as I thought I would be. I think our province is facing some serious economic headwinds and I can't wait to see Doug try to wrap his shallow slogans around real, actual problems. Exactly, he isn't going to face any personal hardship being premier. And no matter what happens his legacy is his boisterous family ego-cult. He and his brother have pulled a fast one on Ontario/Toronto and we're probably going to be worse off for it.
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Brooks Cracktackle posted:Missed the boat for MMP in 2007, but yes FPTP is loving idiotic and has no place at any level of a modern democracy Of course to amend the electoral process you have to first win an election, and any election you win must already be working perfectly.
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eXXon posted:Yes and you should definitely respect Doug Ford for all of the great things he has done like For a party leader to encourage people to heckle the guy who beat her is kinda lovely
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Kale posted:Is this USPol or is all of D&D just done in this style? lol
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Toalpaz posted:Exactly, he isn't going to face any personal hardship being premier. And no matter what happens his legacy is his boisterous family ego-cult. He and his brother have pulled a fast one on Ontario/Toronto and we're probably going to be worse off for it. It seems he perfected the skill of repeating lies until everyone gets tired of fighting it and just accepts them as the new truth. It's baffling. But I have been working on TV news for over a decade and Doug is the most impenetrable interviewee I have seen. Just stare ahead and repeat the lie. It really is that simple. Don't get fancy, don't talk yourself into a corner. "I saved Toronto a billion dollars". Works great! However... The caucus itself may demand more depth but as long as they stay in power the end justifies the means, right?
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dev286 posted:It seems he perfected the skill of repeating lies until everyone gets tired of fighting it and just accepts them as the new truth. It's baffling. But I have been working on TV news for over a decade and Doug is the most impenetrable interviewee I have seen. Just stare ahead and repeat the lie. It really is that simple. Don't get fancy, don't talk yourself into a corner. "I saved Toronto a billion dollars". Works great! What if you tell him, to his face, that he's lying? "No, you're lying, here's the data. No, you're lying. Lying again. No."
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flakeloaf posted:For a party leader to encourage people to heckle the guy who beat her is kinda lovely I would've hoped the 2016 US election would've taught us all what  is worth.
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