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Ubiquitous_
Nov 20, 2013

by Reene
Does OP want us to talk about it in here? Because I can spill it behind CIA redactions.

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esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Ubiquitous_ posted:

Finale rumors and tea are spilling all over, and it’s a mess. 😱

Such a mess! (FINALE SPOILERS PROBABLY) Poor Asia and her butterflies tho. Also forcing Aquaria thru to the 3-way lip sync suspiciously to a 3 person song even tho she tripped and fell like twice??? in her lip sync with Eureka loving lol. At least Ru's hard boner for wanting Aquaria to take the crown means Eureka almost definitely won't win. Though ngl I lowkey want Eureka to win just to see the nuclear fallout. (DO NOT LOOK)


QuickbreathFinisher posted:

Also, the "evil twins" being asked the who should go home question was an excellent way to get them to answer that question in a way that didn't feel gross. I loved seeing them be given carte blanche to just say the poo poo instead of pageant tears. I would be fine with this inner sabotwá challenge being a fixture in the late season, even though this specific episode kind of sucked. I think you could even do without the "good" side and let them go ham on the darksided stuff

I'm going to have to see this finale tea.

There's a whole subreddit for RPDR spoilers if you want more details than what I just posted.

e: also yeah if OP doesn't want even spoilered posts about it lmk and I'll remove mine, I can't remember if we allowed it last year or not but I feel like I remember talking about it behind bars

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
I'm super curious about that tea but I'll wait until I've seen the finale

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.



Interesting that they're filming it now, and not after next week.

I haven't looked, and I'd prefer it if we keep it under spoiler bars. It's officially this time in the season!



Hopefully I can make it to the end unspoiled, as I said in the OP I was literally hyperventilating during Shea v Sasha not knowing what would happen.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Pinwiz11 posted:

Interesting that they're filming it now, and not after next week.

I haven't looked, and I'd prefer it if we keep it under spoiler bars. It's officially this time in the season!



Hopefully I can make it to the end unspoiled, as I said in the OP I was literally hyperventilating during Shea v Sasha not knowing what would happen.

It's a shame they have to film the reunion so early so they can edit it in time for air, because lol the internet is a loving minefield for spoilers around this point in the season. P much the only reason I even bothered reading the tea this year. I kept myself quiet on everything else thru the season-- though I'd heard Cracker doesn't make top 4, so I knew she'd be going home that week once she made top 5-- but not wanting to avoid landmines made me look.

Plus I just really wanted to know if they're keeping the lovely format from last year.

e: being spoiled on the whole season can be fun tho. knowing about maskgate before poo poo even really started airing last season was lovely for anticipating the reactions week of

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob
I am loving DYING over the spoilers OMG this is a mess I can't wait to see

Ubiquitous_
Nov 20, 2013

by Reene

angerbeet posted:

I am loving DYING over the spoilers OMG this is a mess I can't wait to see

There is gonna be sooooo much crying over what goes down in the finale. 🤣

warez
Mar 13, 2003

HOLA FANTA DONT CHA WANNA?
I'm so, so tempted to peek. Don't know if I can wait two weeks (or, more likely, last two weeks without someone on social media spoiling it).

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
Stay strong, friend.

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


Nihonniboku posted:

This was back in the 90s. She had a secret admirers episode, and a supposedly straight guy, Jonathan Schmitz, was brought on stage to meet his secret admirer. It turned out to be another man, Scott Amedure. It was pretty tame, if not completely awkward, because if you remember, it was still not cool at all to be gay in the 90s. At the later trial it came out that the two men did indeed hookup after the taping; but, when Scott left a suggestive note at Jonathan's home, Jonathan murdered Scott with a shotgun.

Scott's family eventually sued the Jenny Jones show over the negligent role that they had in his death. They were rewarded with $25 million, and the show continued for another 4 years.

Holy poo poo.

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


Also I had the entire season spoiled for me. Like every lip sync and elimination in order. Never again.

Also someone explain why Asia's evil twin is called North Korea

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


When you pee clear, cheer.

Aquaria is a loving weirdo

Ubiquitous_
Nov 20, 2013

by Reene
That's why she rules.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




The Berzerker posted:

Also someone explain why Asia's evil twin is called North Korea

idk but it was worth it for the way Ru kept saying North Korea

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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The Berzerker posted:

When you pee clear, cheer.

Aquaria is a loving weirdo

How are people this dehydrated like, bitch drink a water

the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

How are people this dehydrated like, bitch drink a water

Rainier is basically water, ok?! I FEEL VERY ATTACKED!

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




I make my coffee with water!!

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

I'm gonna echo loads of other people and say this episode left a really bad taste in my mouth, it felt exploitative even for RDPR and the judging made no sense to me.

The Berzerker posted:

When you pee clear, cheer.

Aquaria is a loving weirdo

Is she a closet Scientologist who let it slip and came up with a weird line to cover it up because, well, Scientology and drag don't exactly go together well?

'cause "omg she's a Scientologist :ohdear:" was my first thought.

Mouse Dresser
Sep 4, 2002

This isn't Middle Earth, Quentin. There aren't enough noble quests to go around.

Sulphagnist posted:



Is she a closet Scientologist who let it slip and came up with a weird line to cover it up because, well, Scientology and drag don't exactly go together well?

'cause "omg she's a Scientologist :ohdear:" was my first thought.

Same.

Asia not being in the final lip sync is a loving crime and she should win :colbert:

Deus Ex Macklemore
Jul 2, 2004


Zelensky's Zealots

jit bull transpile posted:

See, to me this is the dumbest least effective critique of her. She's a lovely feminist who has defended guys accused of harassment because she personally likes them and constantly reframes feminist issues to be about only upper middle class white women. Nail her on that. The internet obsession with calling her a pedophile because she played a weird game of doctor as a child just really buries the lede on why she's problematic.

Edit: crossed out "dumbest" because I don't want this to read as an insult toward Propaganda Machine. Want it to be about criticism of Lena Dunham in general.

Maybe it's not the least effective "critique" for people who lived through sexual abuse at the hands of their older sibling. If she was willing to write publicly about "a weird game of doctor" then I refuse to believe more wasn't going on that she didn't write about. Come on, use some of that empathy that you demand from others.

Trauma is trauma

Ubiquitous_
Nov 20, 2013

by Reene

Mouse Dresser posted:

Same.

Asia not being in the final lip sync is a loving crime and she should win :colbert:

Asia cried butterflies died

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018


GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
the line about crackers mums favourite animal being butterflies has a new depressing context with the finale spoilers

TOO MANY GOBLINS
May 31, 2015

Flyinglemur posted:

Maybe it's not the least effective "critique" for people who lived through sexual abuse at the hands of their older sibling. If she was willing to write publicly about "a weird game of doctor" then I refuse to believe more wasn't going on that she didn't write about. Come on, use some of that empathy that you demand from others.

Trauma is trauma

Didn't she masturbate in bed next to her sister for years, like, while she was in her teens? That's not "playing doctor" you're well aware that's not appropriate at that age.
Either way it's really loving scummy to profit off of it by writing about it in a book, that fucks me up. I feel so bad for her sister, all anyone knows about her is poo poo like "her sister put rocks inside her vagina". :smith: What the hell

Can someone explain why y'all thought Aquaria was a Scientologist or whatever? I don't know if I missed something she implied or I'm just uneducated

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




She also would bribe her with candy for kisses and to sit on her lap and 'everything a predator would do to woo a young suburban girl' while she was in her pre-teens/teens. Most people aren't referencing the rocks when talking about what Dunham did to her sister.

Also idk ppl being paranoid pee clear sounds like go clear? What a silly connection to make lmao

TOO MANY GOBLINS
May 31, 2015
Is that an actual quote? Jesus, I hadn't heard that bit. That's loving disgusting. Why the hell did they let her on the show again

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
As a noob to RPDR this is my first time watching a season live and does the producer/Ru interference always feel this blatant? Eureka's continued existence on this gay earth is baffling aside from a producer decision to have the redemption story. Aquaria also definitely felt like she's been pushed by the show to inevitably be in the finals. Sure she absolutely consistently turns out a look but she's not that impressive otherwise aside from Snatch Game. Hell she only became a human being after she ran out of prepared bitchy one liners and started running into the limits of her life experience.

Like yeah if the producers or Ru think that Aquaria is gonna be huge in drag based on her potential that's fine but I'd rather she come back later as an All Star (lol if they even continue it after Season 3 though) after she has literally matured but out of this top 4 I can't see any possibility aside from her winning. I mean Kameron is by far my favourite this season because she's the cutest underdog muscle queen ever and she got away with cosplaying Jaina/Crystal Maiden on TV which is amazing but the show really can't wait to get rid of her.

Golbez
Oct 9, 2002

1 2 3!
If you want to take a shot at me get in line, line
1 2 3!
Baby, I've had all my shots and I'm fine

Ubiquitous_ posted:

Those were the most basic Eureka looks yet. Yikes.

Can't we be happy she went two looks without wearing a body suit?

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




I paraphrased, but yeah.

Lena Dunham posted:

Anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl, I was trying.

It's the way she writes about all of this that makes it the skeeziest, imo. The first anecdote when they were both very young is fine, but then she goes on to write about stuff that went into her teens, and while not outright molestation is still weird as gently caress because of how aware of it being wrong she seems, and the way she writes it in the book as some silly joke.

Like maybe keep the stories about bribing your sister to kiss her, or masturbating beside her while she slept in your bed and you describe her sleeping body thrashing around next to you out of your book?

Or at least approach it in better taste??

warez
Mar 13, 2003

HOLA FANTA DONT CHA WANNA?

Eej posted:

As a noob to RPDR this is my first time watching a season live and does the producer/Ru interference always feel this blatant?

Kind of. I think most long-term fans have adjusted their expectations to accept that at times the show will almost randomly come down incredibly hard on a contestant to get them out of the picture while letting some chosen few skate by or not giving props where they’re due (some seasons it’s more blatant than others). Watching it more as entertainment/a fun weekly display of high faggotry than a truly fair competition makes things easier.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Eej posted:

As a noob to RPDR this is my first time watching a season live and does the producer/Ru interference always feel this blatant?

This has always been pretty blatant, It's obvious in the editing, and then there have always been accusations from other queens that certain chosen few get preferential treatment.

My theory for a long time has been that Ru always has had an idea of who she wants to win before the season even starts. This year it could be Eureka because there has long been criticism for never crowning a big girl.

Nihonniboku fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Jun 10, 2018

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




At least Aquaria and Eureka both did very well this season. We've had worse performing queens dragged to top 4 before/pushed by the producers.

Also worth noting they sometimes change their plans. Season 4, for instance, I've no doubt in my mind Ru and the producers wanted Chad to win. Then Sharon surprised them. Or even this season, I bet they wanted Cracker in the top but she bombed so hard.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

esperterra posted:

I paraphrased, but yeah.


It's the way she writes about all of this that makes it the skeeziest, imo. The first anecdote when they were both very young is fine, but then she goes on to write about stuff that went into her teens, and while not outright molestation is still weird as gently caress because of how aware of it being wrong she seems, and the way she writes it in the book as some silly joke.

Like maybe keep the stories about bribing your sister to kiss her, or masturbating beside her while she slept in your bed and you describe her sleeping body thrashing around next to you out of your book?

Or at least approach it in better taste??

Jesus christ I take it back. The only anecdote I've seen goons post before was one from when she was like 6, a time period where most kids start doing weird stuff before they learn boundaries. All that other stuff is horrible. Yuck.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Plus she outed her sister which is a lovely thing to do.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

esperterra posted:

Also worth noting they sometimes change their plans. Season 4, for instance, I've no doubt in my mind Ru and the producers wanted Chad to win. Then Sharon surprised them. Or even this season, I bet they wanted Cracker in the top but she bombed so hard.

Completely agree. Hence, Ru giving Chad the crown in All Stars 1 over the much more deserving Raven.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


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Gary’s Answer

esperterra posted:

Plus she outed her sister which is a lovely thing to do.

OK, so 9/10 times when a goon hate train starts it's best to just tune out, but apparently in this case that strategy has failed me.

Ubiquitous_
Nov 20, 2013

by Reene

Golbez posted:

Can't we be happy she went two looks without wearing a body suit?
Fair enough. That was definitely a change up.

tote up a bags
Jun 8, 2006

die stoats die

At least she wasn't wearing a onesie

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
Or literally just a diaper.

ALFbrot
Apr 17, 2002
aquaria is a scientologist because she hydrates well

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Chaotic Flame
Jun 1, 2009

So...


Aquaria's good twin look made me immediately think of the Vorin safehand business from Sanderson's Stormlight Archive series

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