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bawfuls posted:I think the point was that 150 million climate refugees will create a political crisis deep and broad enough to impact Americans
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There's going to be wars. And America can't keep its dick out of wars it's got no business in, nevermind wars involving allies, countries that supply us with oil, and countries that we have important military bases in. Plus wars that Russia and/or China get involved in. Case in point: do you think the US is entirely unaffected by the Syrian conflict? Because we're involved, despite the average American not giving the slightest gently caress about it.
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California politics update: I'm in a city council meeting and it smells like old people
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Grand Prize Winner posted:California politics update: I'm in a city council meeting and it smells like old people Welcome to every Funeral Home I've had to be in.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:California politics update: I'm in a city council meeting and it smells like old people "I have a question. Well, not so much a question but more of a comment..."
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Leperflesh posted:nevermind wars involving allies As of the last week or so, this is no longer a problem!
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Grand Prize Winner posted:California politics update: I'm in a city council meeting and it smells like old people Weed council meetings or town halls always smelled old people and never smelled like weed. I was pretty depressed about this.
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Jun 12, 2018 04:49
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cheese posted:I think you underestimate the willingness of middle class white America to let foreign brown people suffer instead of compromise their quality of life. We blew up a cholera treatment facility in Yemen today. Americans absolutely do not give a gently caress about foreign brown people.
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Just heard a commercial on the radio extolling prop 13 and warning of special interest groups that want to dismantle it. Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association has the balls to say prop 13 helps the budgeting of local government.
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Jun 12, 2018 19:23
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Instant Sunrise posted:Here in godless communist Anaheim, I pay $40/month for electricity because of government bureaucracy. Whereas if I was somewhere where the Southern California Edison could use invisible hand of the glorious free market to more efficiently deliver the same electricity, I’d pay $56/month. Hold the gently caress up. I live in Anaheim - how are you getting your electricity so cheap? Mine ranges at minimum $60 a month, and during the summer almost $150+ a month. Are you using Anaheim Public Utilities?
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Zuul the Cat posted:Hold the gently caress up. I live in Anaheim - how are you getting your electricity so cheap? Mine ranges at minimum $60 a month, and during the summer almost $150+ a month. Are you using Anaheim Public Utilities? Yes. $0.12 / kwhr for basic lifeline service and $0.18 / kwhr for going over that. Also I have an 850 sqft condo.
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Jun 12, 2018 23:01
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Instant Sunrise posted:Yes. Actually, I think yours is the same rate as mine, or close to it. I forgot they tack on paramedic, sewer & refuse as well, which is why i was shocked at the amount you were paying. I only have a 730 sqft 1 bedroom 1 bath, but i'm pretty sure we have no insulation in our walls, which is why we have to run the air. I'm on the 2nd floor.
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Jun 12, 2018 23:24
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Instant Sunrise posted:Yes. Meanwhile PG&E charges me $0.21 base and $0.27 for going over. gently caress the free market.
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Jun 12, 2018 23:34
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Bastard Tetris posted:We blew up a cholera treatment facility in Yemen today. Americans absolutely do not give a gently caress about foreign brown people. "shithole countries"
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CopperHound posted:Just heard a commercial on the radio extolling prop 13 and warning of special interest groups that want to dismantle it. Yea there's a proposition you're not going to like on the ballot in November: https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_13_Tax_Transfer_Initiative_(2018) quote:A "yes" vote supports amending Proposition 13 (1978) to allow homebuyers who are age 55 or older or severely disabled to transfer their tax assessments, with a possible adjustment, from their prior home to their new home, no matter (a) the new home's market value; (b) the new home's location in the state; or (c) the buyer's number of moves. It's absolutely terrible and has huge amounts of cash support from realtors associations who love having extremely high home prices.
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what the actual gently caress the only sacrifice prop 13 baby boomers had to make was to stay in one spot and now even that's too much?
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BattleHamster posted:Yea there's a proposition you're not going to like on the ballot in November: gently caress OFF with this, oh my god
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And that's why grandma needs to be shot out of a cannon. edit: All three Californias will have a prop 13. revolther fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Jun 13, 2018 |
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gently caress that prop 13 bullshit. I fully expect it to pass as well, which is twice as infuriating. Here's a less infuriating comedy ballot intiative that won't pass https://twitter.com/abc7newsbayarea/status/1006704607769255941 El Mero Mero fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Jun 13, 2018 |
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Why do these loving things always try to act like Orange County isn’t just an extension of LA.
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Instant Sunrise posted:Why do these loving things always try to act like Orange County isn’t just an extension of LA. Because they care more about Orange County residents being the kings of a Republican rump state than accurately enfranchising cohesive communities? edit: for the record I'm not from CA and I'm genuinely curious about the dynamic, but I have a suspicion unbutthurtable fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Jun 13, 2018 |
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Jun 13, 2018 13:48
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BattleHamster posted:Yea there's a proposition you're not going to like on the ballot in November: Does this flip anyone on the "But think of the grandmas" side?
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Jun 13, 2018 13:58
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Looks like London Breed won: http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2018/06/london-breed-wins-sfs-mayoral-race-with-99-certainty.html
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BattleHamster posted:Yea there's a proposition you're not going to like on the ballot in November: What the gently caress this is insane bullshit
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BattleHamster posted:Yea there's a proposition you're not going to like on the ballot in November:
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Instant Sunrise posted:Why do these loving things always try to act like Orange County isn’t just an extension of LA. Who cares, it's a divide and conquer tactic and needs to be smashed.
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BattleHamster posted:Yea there's a proposition you're not going to like on the ballot in November: That's dire on its face, but is it even limited to natural persons?
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El Mero Mero posted:gently caress that prop 13 bullshit. I fully expect it to pass as well, which is twice as infuriating. what special interest group though this was a good idea?
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Kuvo posted:what special interest group though this was a good idea? The one that will hold another referendum in their new, smaller state to split it further.
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Cicero posted:Looks like London Breed won: http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2018/06/london-breed-wins-sfs-mayoral-race-with-99-certainty.html Nine rounds, drat. Hopefully the #1 first-place vote-getter winning anyway will cool all the anti-RCV hot takes that came out in the past couple of weeks. Ha ha, who am I kidding?
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Kuvo posted:what special interest group though this was a good idea? It was pushed by Tim Draper, the same billionaire nerd that tried to get 6 California's on the ballot.
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dont be mean to me posted:That's dire on its face, but is it even limited to natural persons? Lol
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Kuvo posted:what special interest group though this was a good idea? Russia. Russia want to split californias economy up and lock resources into 3 different states. Its garggling garbage that makes no sense.
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Jun 13, 2018 18:20
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I get that San Diego is more conservative compared to the other coastal cities, but man I do not like being lumped in with all those lovely empty parts of the state.
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San Diego, Orange, Riverside and San Bernardino counties all went to Clinton last election lol
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It's been pointed out before that 2/3 "Californias" would be solidly blue, and the third would be blue-purplish. Fairly positive the GOP is going to come out against the measure to avoid the possibility of four more Dem senators. 
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The funny part is that two of those three states would wind up with two D senators each, and the third could easily be two Ds or a split, because it is still an inescapable fact that most Californians live in cities and the cities are all blue. The old six-state divide would probably have made more republican senators than democrats, but this new three-state idea creates two very blue states and one fairly blue state. So splitting california into three states adds three or four democratic senators to Congress while adding zero or one republican senator, which upsets the delicate balance in which the Republicans maintain a slim majority despite having far fewer total voters in their collective red states than are in the collective blue states. E.g., even if California voted by referendum to split, whichever party in Congress stands to lose, will oppose it. This is the same reason why Puerto Rico isn't going to be allowed to become a state (It'd have two D senators). There are also significant questions about the ability of the voters as a whole to divide the state by referendum. http://www.newsweek.com/should-california-be-split-three-separate-states-655229 It's probably not the case, and probably the legislature has to act first. By a two-thirds majority. Which isn't going to happen. There's the additional question of whether the state's voters as a whole could compel a subset of themselves to become a new state, without checkign whether the voters within that new substate support the initiative by a majority. Probably they can't, because it's absurd to think that people can be effectively "kicked out" of a state and into a different state without their consent. Finally, there's just the incredibly bad idea that the whole thing represents.
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I feel like this would make 2 blue states and a purple state, since the Bay area and the LA area would probably dominate their respective states and San Diego and Orange county are getting bluer all the time. So to me this seems like a pretty stupid plan for Republicans. e: should have refreshed the page
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VikingofRock posted:I feel like this would make 2 blue states and a purple state, since the Bay area and the LA area would probably dominate their respective states and San Diego and Orange county are getting bluer all the time. So to me this seems like a pretty stupid plan for Republicans. Or you could see it as a plot to take thirty million people hostage via their water pipes. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Jun 13, 2018 |
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