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A 50S RAYGUN posted:lmao the most interesting parts in any of the fallout games are weird, off-the-track areas that you stumble upon that have entirely self-contained stories. the best part is going through a vault and figuring out what happened or experiencing it through holotapes or whatever, not staring at a dialog box while some lady tells you to go beat up some radroaches because of caps or whatever. Sounds like your favorite part of the game are premade quests filled with unique sets and writing.
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frugalmaster posted:Dragon Age: Origins did world building better than any TES game. Has better dungeons too. it's also a completely different game in a completely different genre 
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Jun 13, 2018 23:13
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actually my favorite part of the game is a highway i covered in landmines but nice try
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Jun 13, 2018 23:13
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I have come back from the future because of how worried people are about this game to give you the following hint: "Is this game going to be fun?" and "Can I play as a supermutant behemoth?" have the same answer 
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Jun 13, 2018 23:18
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frugalmaster posted:Unfortunately single player games are kind of a losing prospect in today's world. Said as "Deep" singleplayer RPGs like Witcher and so on develop massive fanbases and constant praise, alongside "singeplayer experience" type games like nu God of War, The Last of Us and those blowing the doors off repeatedly.
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Jun 13, 2018 23:24
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Brother Entropy posted:it's the first dungeon the story points you towards. i think you get the first part of fus ro dah from it so yes, it's one of the interchangeable tedium maps.
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Jun 13, 2018 23:27
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WebDO posted:I have come back from the future because of how worried people are about this game to give you the following hint: Well, you are a real lovely messenger, since your answer is fundamentally wrong.
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Jun 13, 2018 23:28
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Yardbomb posted:Said as "Deep" singleplayer RPGs like Witcher and so on develop massive fanbases and constant praise, alongside "singeplayer experience" type games like nu God of War, The Last of Us and those blowing the doors off repeatedly. Yeah but look how much money Fortnite made by selling hats or whatever
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Kaal posted:Sounds like your favorite part of the game are premade quests filled with unique sets and writing. people that think there aren't quests or writing in this game itt
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Jun 13, 2018 23:29
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frugalmaster posted:Dragon Age: Origins did world building better than any TES game. Has better dungeons too. You had to pick the single game with an even shallower world than a Bethesda game. Dragon Age is the default fantasy setting.
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frugalmaster posted:Unfortunately single player games are kind of a losing prospect in today's world. The kids of today don't want that stuff anymore. It's all multiplayer now. Why do you think two lovely TF2 Clones are pretty much the most profitable games in the world right now? Yeah, I'm sad to say it but this is 100% true. After the massive flops of God of War, Far Cry 5, Zelda Breath of the Wild and Super Mario Odyssey in the last 18 months I think we can say with confidence that single player games just have no future at all. I had really high hopes for Cyberpunk 2077, but after CDProject-Red went bankrupt after the commercial failure that was the single player Witcher 3 I guess there was just no way it was going to happen.
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Jun 13, 2018 23:31
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I think it's more of a semi modern default fantasy setting because it's tolkien except everyone is horny and covered in blood.
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Jun 13, 2018 23:32
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Popete posted:I don't understand how people don't get that this isn't a mainline Fallout game. This is a open world survival game set in the Fallout universe, if you don't like those kinda games then don't get this. They'll make another proper Fallout 5 after TES releases. Did anyone actually expect another Fallout so soon and at the same time as a TES game is in development? They had to pick between making a mianline game, or a MMO game. They chose the latter, thus signalling a dark era for RPGs coming out of Bethesda studios. It's not like this non-mainline game cost no resources that could have been used to produce a decent RPG.
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Jun 13, 2018 23:32
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WebDO posted:I have come back from the future because of how worried people are about this game to give you the following hint: Thank you future man for telling me I can finally PUNCH YOUR BLOOD
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Jun 13, 2018 23:33
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OwlFancier posted:I think it's more of a semi modern default fantasy setting because it's tolkien except everyone is horny and covered in blood. But at least DAO does indeed have fun dungeons and gameplay.
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Jun 13, 2018 23:33
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You say that but I couldn't finish it because I got so bored of it and the writing was so godawful that I couldn't stand any more of it. Bethesda writing might be a bit uninspired but it's not actively repellant.
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Jun 13, 2018 23:34
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steinrokkan posted:They had to pick between making a mianline game, or a MMO game. They chose the latter, thus signalling a dark era for RPGs coming out of Bethesda studios. It's not like this non-mainline game cost no resources that could have been used to produce a decent RPG. I imagine Fallout 76 is costing them a lot less resources than a mainline Fallout game especially in the art and writing department. They are making a mainline TES game which probably is consuming the majority of their resources. This is the first time they've made both a Fallout and TES game at the same time, I wouldn't have expected them to put out a mainline Fallout game and this is decidedly not one.
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Jun 13, 2018 23:34
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Also if you're going to make a fallout spinoff game I'd have much prefered new vegas HD in the fallout 4 engine tyvm.
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Jun 13, 2018 23:35
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Donovan Trip posted:people that think there aren't quests or writing in this game itt I mean "quests" insomuch as the crap Preston would barf at you and clog up your log with when you tried avoiding him at a settlement from the sound of things.
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Donovan Trip posted:people that think there aren't quests or writing in this game itt 50s guy was saying fallout 76 will be good because it won't have writing, yet said his favorite part of fallout is reading things
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Jun 13, 2018 23:35
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Your Computer posted:it's also a completely different game in a completely different genre Is it really?
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Jun 13, 2018 23:36
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corn in the bible posted:50s idiot was saying fallout 76 will be good because it won't have writing not only did i not say this, i already know fallout 76 is going to have 'writing'. it's just probably not going to have a boring, overarching story that i hate having to do on alternate characters.
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Jun 13, 2018 23:37
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Donovan Trip posted:people that think there aren't quests or writing in this game itt They basically said as much. Sounds like its basically lore terminals and (I suspect) radiant quests from holotape/etc drops.
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Jun 13, 2018 23:37
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OwlFancier posted:Also if you're going to make a fallout spinoff game I'd have much prefered new vegas HD in the fallout 4 engine tyvm. How about an isometric title from Obsidian?
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Jun 13, 2018 23:38
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The deep quests in the mobs respawing machine.OwlFancier posted:You say that but I couldn't finish it because I got so bored of it and the writing was so godawful that I couldn't stand any more of it. You ain't wrong, but DAO was the only CRPG of its sort before Obisidian started making its own games, so it was easy to forgive the garbage story and cumbersome prose. THe sequels are unmitigated garbage, though, since they got rid of the gameplay system and only kept the character interactions.
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Jun 13, 2018 23:38
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frugalmaster posted:Is it really? yes
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frugalmaster posted:How about an isometric title from Obsidian? Nah, there is nothing wrong with the 3D FPS system Bethesda made for FO4. It just needs to be licensed to somebody who employs at least semi-literate staff.
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Jun 13, 2018 23:39
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No.
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Not only do Iove FO3 and 4,i have enjoyed all the Dragon Ages. Even DA2! And I liked Andromeda but it's not all that good. The disease is inside me
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Jun 13, 2018 23:40
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steinrokkan posted:They had to pick between making a mianline game, or a MMO game. They chose the latter, thus signalling a dark era for RPGs coming out of Bethesda studios. It's not like this non-mainline game cost no resources that could have been used to produce a decent RPG. There was a bright era for Bethesda RPGs?
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2house2fly posted:There was a bright era for Bethesda RPGs? its called yer livin in it, buddy
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Jun 13, 2018 23:41
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2house2fly posted:There was a bright era for Bethesda RPGs? Duh. Morrowind. Morrowind & Skyrim are much better games than Oblivion.
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The noclip documentary shows some promising stuff, but I'm still on the fence about how much I'll enjoy the multiplayer aspects. I guess I'll preorder it to get in the beta and if I don't like it I'll just cancel.
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2house2fly posted:There was a bright era for Bethesda RPGs? Well, Bethesda games always have this period of time of getting to know them when you are not ENTIRELY sure the game sucks balls, now with a microtransaction MMO FPS, even that is gone.
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frugalmaster posted:Duh. Morrowind. Daggerfall has that big world full of random places that serve no purpose to a plotline that this thread craves tho
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Azhais posted:They basically said as much. Sounds like its basically lore terminals and (I suspect) radiant quests from holotape/etc drops. i can practically guarantee there will be 'writing' in at least a sizable portion of the places you go. it won't be delivered by awful NPCs, but stuff like the Salem witchcraft museum and that pit in the quarry with the devil knife in it were still things that had to be 'written', even if not in the context people might imagine. going back as far as to Morrowind a big part of Bethesda designing spaces has been to put an interesting hook or something in most places, even if it's just notes by a skeleton or told by the weird loot in an area.
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Azhais posted:Daggerfall has that big world full of random places that serve no purpose to a plotline that this thread craves tho Don't you remember the thrill you felt exploring [MAP CELL 320:125] after you discovered it with no help whatsoever from NPC?
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:i can practically guarantee there will be 'writing' in at least a sizable portion of the places you go. it won't be delivered by awful NPCs, but stuff like the Salem witchcraft museum and that pit in the quarry with the devil knife in it were still things that had to be 'written', even if not in the context people might imagine. Here's a hint, genius, the appeal of Fallout has never been about reading lovely holotapes or about bumping into broken physics objects that look like a dildo loving a teddy bear if you squint your eyes.
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Honestly some Bethesda world building stuff is really good, like the terminal entries from a National Guard officer who tried to keep order after the Great War in Fallout 3. That kind of thing makes it that much more frustrating that their main quests are "have you seen my son? He's a baby, maybe you'd recognize him. Have you seen my boy"
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ES6 and Starfield are going to be single player Bethesda games. Fallout 76 isn't "mainline", but they have said it will flesh out the lore of the universe. There are quests, but no NPC humans.
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