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Spiderdrake posted:He seems entirely like a sideboard card for a different Standard format. That's not a bad thing, I guess. Speaking of Karn I think it's been a little overrated... It's seeing much less play. I played a PPTQ today. 28ish players or so and didn't see one Karn either played against me or at any other table all day.
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Rinkles posted:'Cause the bar is so high, and/or because the deck sucks? The bar is like, a little below medium but it's still not good enough.
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Jun 17, 2018 04:09
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suicidesteve posted:The bar is like, a little below medium but it's still not good enough. Planeswalkers aren't good in legacy.
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mcmagic posted:Planeswalkers aren't good in legacy. Too fast/explosive a format?
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Rinkles posted:Too fast/explosive a format? Mostly because they are 4-5 mana sorceries... On another note i really think the new Bolas is going to be good in Standard. Grixis was a good deck in a very recent standard format and it's floor is a 4 mana two for 1. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Jun 17, 2018 |
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mcmagic posted:Planeswalkers aren't good in legacy. JtMS, LotV, and Lilliana the Last Hope all exist and are played
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Hellsau posted:The card text always wins, hence why Gleemox is banned. Except for that one time it wasn't. 
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Rinkles posted:Too fast/explosive a format? Daze. mcmagic posted:Planeswalkers aren't good in legacy. Unless you're accelerating them out. Like say if there were a 1/2 ruining the format that allowed you to do so.
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Jun 17, 2018 04:21
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I look forward to when Deathrite Shaman finally gets the axe in 2020 and then everyone is calling for Noble Hierarch's ban.
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Jun 17, 2018 04:28
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mcmagic posted:Speaking of Karn I think it's been a little overrated... It's seeing much less play. I played a PPTQ today. 28ish players or so and didn't see one Karn either played against me or at any other table all day. Price reflects that too. Karn used to be $50-60, and now you can snag him at like $33 a pop on TCGplayer right this moment.
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suicidesteve posted:Daze. That 1/2 is in fact the legacy planeswalker.
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Star Man posted:I look forward to when Deathrite Shaman finally gets the axe in 2020 and then everyone is calling for Noble Hierarch's ban. When Noble Hierarch makes racing impossible while also ramping and only costing 1 mana, I'll be all for that ban.
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I think we can all agree on this: Ban Paul Rietzel.
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On the Affinity front, I've had much more success with Antiquities War vs. Karn. Turns out paying 4 for a land to hand isn't ever impactful, otherwise it's just a much worse master. Antiquities is a difficult to remove T3 clock that produces faster value.
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Star Man posted:I think we can all agree on this: Ban Paul Rietzel. This might be the 3rd worst Magic-related opinion I've ever seen
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Jun 17, 2018 04:50
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Maybe he was hoping it'd get Rietzel to do more coverage?
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mcmagic posted:Speaking of Karn I think it's been a little overrated... It's seeing much less play. I played a PPTQ today. 28ish players or so and didn't see one Karn either played against me or at any other table all day. He's good, there's just no deck for him. There's no deck to prey on R/B aggro that doesn't just fold to U/W, so everyone has cut most of their interaction and it's pretty much endless aggro decks vs control. We saw the same thing with Hazoret and The Scarab God when they were first released. They couldn't find homes and then they exploded. I don't expect the core set to change much, but we could see a chainwhirler ban, and even if we don't, Ravnica should completely shake things up with rotation. Kaladesh rotating will shake things up tremendously considering what a powerhouse block that was, even post bannings.
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Rinkles posted:Maybe he was hoping it'd get Rietzel to do more coverage? I was going to make an edit to say "unless it means he'll be forced to do more coverage" but  Edit: So now I made this post instead which was even more effort. I'm sure I won't learn a lesson from this.
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From reddit. A person said they found these posters at a mall of what looks like new art for potential future walkers. Ral Zarek, Teferi, Karn (on Vryn???) https://m.imgur.com/a/wV4MMvS
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Tainen posted:From reddit. A person said they found these posters at a mall of what looks like new art for potential future walkers. Ral Zarek, Teferi, Karn (on Vryn???) Just loving lol at that phone picture quality in TYOOL 2018
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Despite day 1 being poo poo gp Vegas was a blast. Modern is fun and matches were really intense both days. Outside the top 8, prize support for such a big tournament are poo poo. Extreme poo poo. It’s not until you are playing for a chance at a 250$ or better that you get a grip on how bad the rake is. It’s a little embarrassing. Thousands of people and the prize support is what again? Yikes The folks thirsty for pro points and the like make the last rounds awkward as well for so many reasons.
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Sitting in a store in Osaka about to draft in Japanese while only speaking <50 words of Japanese. Wish me luck goons!
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Flea Bargain posted:Sitting in a store in Osaka about to draft in Japanese while only speaking <50 words of Japanese. Wish me luck goons! I drafted a Japanese box of EMA with 7 other people and my Japanese consists of the numbers 1-4, thank you, divine wind, and goodbye, and I'm pretty sure I knew more Japanese than anyone else at the table. You'll be fine.
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Flea Bargain posted:Sitting in a store in Osaka about to draft in Japanese while only speaking <50 words of Japanese. Wish me luck goons! Cool, is it at Hareuya or Big Magic? Drafting in a language you don't know isn't that hard, I think I've drafted more in Chinese than English by now. I've you've got internet then there shouldn't be a problem.
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Went 2-1 (including a bye), managed to bubble at Standard Showdown tonight with my GW Midrange deck. A guy showed up late to push us to 9 people, was still only three rounds, guess tiebreakers hosed me. Gonna take a RB Artifact deck I brewed up to the Store Championship next week. x4 Heart of Kiran x4 Scrapheap Scrounger x4 Goblin Chainwhirler x3 Pia Nalaar x3 Traxos x4 Hazoret x2 Rekindling Phoenix x3 Walking Ballista x1 Cut // Ribbons x3 Abrade x3 Unlicensed Disintegration x3 Karn x4 Spire of Industry x4 Dragonskull Summit x4 Canyon Slough x2 Aether Hub x9 Mountain SB x3 Duress x4 Magma Spray x3 Vraska’s Command x3 Sweltering Suns x1 Rekindling Phoenix x1 Swamp Kinda excited about this one.
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AnEdgelord posted:I think you are overstating how restrictive the minus is as there are plenty of decks that would be perfectly fine working within this restriction (like a theoretical Abzan Constrictor), but I see your point about the plus. It feels like something that wants to be slotted into an existing deck rather than something you build around if its going to be played at all. I mean, the fact it costs 4 in a deck that apparently wants nothing more than 2's is awkward as it is. It's equally as weird that it pairs so naturally with History of Benalia but the minus doesn't do anything with that deck. (I love History of Benalia, by the way) It's the White Weeniest Planeswalker of all time.
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I'm glad to see that Krark Clan Ironworks won a GP, largely on the back of no one except its pilot knowing what the gently caress is happening. 
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Lets Pickle posted:I'm glad to see that Krark Clan Ironworks won a GP, largely on the back of no one except its pilot knowing what the gently caress is happening. He's won two straight. If Nass (or Pardee or whichever CFB people play it) keep winning with it they will get rid of it, even if it doesn't delay games like the original Eggs deck did. Or else Mardu/Jeskai are going to need to pack Stony Silence again.
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GoutPatrol posted:Cool, is it at Hareuya or Big Magic? It was at big magic, but it ended up not firing :-(
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Cernunnos posted:Except for that one time it wasn't. it was definitely banned no matter what MTGO told us
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You're allowed to play cards that have been reprinted in the current standard block if you have the old versions, right? I did a draft for dominaria recently and came away with a tefiri planeswalker, a tatyova benthing druid, lich's mastery, precognition field etc. Was thinking of building a white/green deck with a dash of blue to use the planeswalker and druid thing since this is what won the draft for me by filling out the deck with whatever trash cards I have in this box of cards I haven't looked at for 3 years.
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ilmucche posted:You're allowed to play cards that have been reprinted in the current standard block if you have the old versions, right? I did a draft for dominaria recently and came away with a tefiri planeswalker, a tatyova benthing druid, lich's mastery, precognition field etc. Was thinking of building a white/green deck with a dash of blue to use the planeswalker and druid thing since this is what won the draft for me by filling out the deck with whatever trash cards I have in this box of cards I haven't looked at for 3 years. Yeah, any printing is legal as long as the card is in a standard legal set.
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MrBling posted:Yeah, any printing is legal as long as the card is in a standard legal set. Any ways I can cheaply improve this? I've bashed it together with my draft cards and a few cards I've had kicking around. I don't know if evolving wilds are any good? I'm not sure it's worth having blue in, but the planeswalker and tatyova cards were really useful. 4 Llanowar Elves 3 Borderland Ranger 2 Grow From the ashes 2 Untamed Kavu 1 Abundant Growth 1 sporecrown thallis 2 yavimaya sapherd 2 Healing Grace 2 Gideon's Reproach 4 Pacifism 1 Danitha Capashen 1 On Serra's Wings 2 Fog Bank 1 Precognition Field 4 Divination 1 Shanna, Sisay's Legacy 1 Teferi, hero of dominaria 1 Tatyova, benthic druid 1 Unexpected Results 1 Simic Guildgate 1 Gilded Lotus 11 forest 8 Plains 3 Islands
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GoutPatrol posted:He's won two straight. They should just ban Ancient Stirrings if it gets to that point IMO. It hoses Lantern and Tron too which are decks that people love to hate, without killing the decks outright. I see it as a Ponder equivalent for decks with a lot of colorless cards and that card has been banned for quite a while.
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Idk how people ever justified cutting stony silence from their board in modern.
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Flea Bargain posted:It was at big magic, but it ended up not firing :-( I don't know if Big Magic is better in other cities than Nagoya but I'd recommend never drafting there. First of all they are super anal about 8 person pods to the point where they will just send random people home if they don't have the right numbers. You'd think this means they are super sticklers for the rules, but actually they might just randomly decide rounds will only be 30 minutes long today and when time is called they will just assign both players a draw rather than do 5 turns. Finally, instead of prizes they do rare redrafting (I'm so sorry for derailing the thread for the next 3 pages, but people needed to be warned). Oh and also you have to turn in your uncommons and they randomly hand them out.
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teddust posted:I don't know if Big Magic is better in other cities than Nagoya but I'd recommend never drafting there. First of all they are super anal about 8 person pods to the point where they will just send random people home if they don't have the right numbers. You'd think this means they are super sticklers for the rules, but actually they might just randomly decide rounds will only be 30 minutes long today and when time is called they will just assign both players a draw rather than do 5 turns. Finally, instead of prizes they do rare redrafting (I'm so sorry for derailing the thread for the next 3 pages, but people needed to be warned). Oh and also you have to turn in your uncommons and they randomly hand them out. Ah, the classic “you’re paying for an experience, not for product” style. Noice.
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It's going to be pretty funny if this stupid deck that no one knows how to play against and only 1 guy can win with ends up getting Mox Opal banned.
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ilmucche posted:Any ways I can cheaply improve this? I've bashed it together with my draft cards and a few cards I've had kicking around. I don't know if evolving wilds are any good? I'm not sure it's worth having blue in, but the planeswalker and tatyova cards were really useful. You have a bunch of cards in there that aren’t standard legal. Standard is currently any cards that were printed in the sets Kaladesh, Aether Revolt, Amonkhet, Hour of Devastation, Ixalan, Rivals of Ixalan or Dominaria. You can use any card from those sets or any printing of a card that appears in one of those sets. E.g. you can use your Magic 2012 version of Llanowar Elves or you Battle For Zendikar printing of Gideon’s Reproach, but you can’t use borderland Ranger since it wasn’t printed in any of the above-mentioned sets. They’ve seemingly gone out of their way to make standard legality more confusing lately — there’s supplementary products like the Explorers of Ixalan boxed game thing which sound like they’re legal ( Ixalan was just the last block! ) but are not, and they had the Planeswalker promo decks which include cards that only appear in those decks but that they’ve made a special exception for by saying those cards are technically part of whatever set the decks came out alongside. When in doubt, look up a card at gatherer.wizards.com and check the “sets and legality” tab. There’s also a few cards currently banned in standard. Smuggler’s Copter, Aetherworks Marvel, Ramunap Ruins, Felidar Guardian, Rampaging Ferocidon, Attune With Aether and Rogue Refiner.
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